Selling a rehab flip with plans good idea? Or not!

Selling a rehab flip with plans good idea? Or not!

New to Real Estate · Member since 2020 · 18 posts · 3 votes

Hey everyone can anyone give me some advice as to how I can structure this deal? 

I’m thinking of selling a rehab flip with the architectural plans and an option to build with us how would I price this out? 

Has anyone done this before? 

I’ve seen land for sale with plans but not a rehab with plans any input would help


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  • Rental Property Investor · Edmonton · Member since 2020 · 54 posts · 38 votes
    4y

    Hi @Brian O.

    I don’t quite understand, do you have the house already? It sounds like you have some architectural drawings for a rehab that could be done on the house, is that correct? And now you are wondering if you should do the rehab that you already have plans for or if you should sell the house without doing the rehab but include the plans in the sale of the house?

  • New to Real Estate · Member since 2020 · 18 posts · 3 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Marshall Magnus:

    Hi @Brian O.

    I don’t quite understand, do you have the house already? It sounds like you have some architectural drawings for a rehab that could be done on the house, is that correct? And now you are wondering if you should do the rehab that you already have plans for or if you should sell the house without doing the rehab but include the plans in the sale of the house?

    Yup that is right kind of like selling land with plans.
     
  • Walnut Creek, CA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    Feel like the people that want a flip don't want to wait or spend deal with a big project like this. They're paying a premium for the finished product, move in ready.

    The people that want to do the flips themselves probably have their own vision for the project and likely don't value the plans too much.

    Doubt it'd hurt anything, but highly doubtful you'd see much return on the money spent to get them.

  • New to Real Estate · Member since 2020 · 18 posts · 3 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Matt K.:

    Feel like the people that want a flip don't want to wait or spend deal with a big project like this. They're paying a premium for the finished product, move in ready.

    The people that want to do the flips themselves probably have their own vision for the project and likely don't value the plans too much.

    Doubt it'd hurt anything, but highly doubtful you'd see much return on the money spent to get them

    Yes I feel it that’s what I was thinking but given the housing shortage in the Bay Area people are doing things out of the ordinary. I was just trying to see if anyone has creatively been able to do a deal like this. Thank you for your input I take everyone’s input and criticism seriously no matter if it’s from an experience investor or beginning investor shoot even a 12-year-old kid I can take advice from I’m always learning! 


  • Walnut Creek, CA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Brian O.:
    Quote from @Matt K.:

    Feel like the people that want a flip don't want to wait or spend deal with a big project like this. They're paying a premium for the finished product, move in ready.

    The people that want to do the flips themselves probably have their own vision for the project and likely don't value the plans too much.

    Doubt it'd hurt anything, but highly doubtful you'd see much return on the money spent to get them

    Yes I feel it that’s what I was thinking but given the housing shortage in the Bay Area people are doing things out of the ordinary. I was just trying to see if anyone has creatively been able to do a deal like this. Thank you for your input I take everyone’s input and criticism seriously no matter if it’s from an experience investor or beginning investor shoot even a 12-year-old kid I can take advice from I’m always learning! 


    The out of ordinary is making things move faster/easier due to lack of inventory. To me at least plans are to personal and customized to be of value to really anyone other then who they were made for.

    The average person gets overwhelmed by this stuff ....I've seen people walk houses because they were intimidated and lacked the vision to see how easy paint and flooring was and would of totally changed the house. They skipped it and ended up getting a home that was closer to being done how they wanted it.  Their reasoning was simple: we don't have time to do this, we just want to move in to a house.

    Plus there's a good chance if they use their own contractor your plans going to get the blame for every change order or delay...

     All said, plans seem little value add and expose you to more risk with little upside.

    Find a way to make the property easier to obtain (construction loans aren't easy to get) and faster/more streamlined delivery. Pitch that as your value add.

    If you had the capability, maybe plans, permits, scope/bid from contractor, and project time line...all that bundled together might get some action... I'm seeing that a lot in market out of state. Big remodel/new build being marketed and sold before it's even done.

  • Realtor · Oakland, CA and a Real Estate Investor with Multi-Family Units and a Self Storage Facility · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    4y

    If you have your own plans and architectual drawings then you may come across to some GC's as a potentially overbearing client. The good GC's will have their own people and plans and would most likely not put you at the top of the list. 

    Why not simply keep the property, gt cash out....and rent it out.......and then use that money as a down payment for another property. That way you have your eggs in multiple baskets. 

  • New to Real Estate · Member since 2020 · 18 posts · 3 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Brian Garlington:

    If you have your own plans and architectual drawings then you may come across to some GC's as a potentially overbearing client. The good GC's will have their own people and plans and would most likely not put you at the top of the list. 

    Why not simply keep the property, gt cash out....and rent it out.......and then use that money as a down payment for another property. That way you have your eggs in multiple baskets. 

    This actually doesn’t sound to bad the previous owner had this same idea. He turned an SFR into a duplex. A freaking duplex nestled smack dab in the middle of a suburban neighborhood with no other duplex’s around. 

    the neighborhood Petitioned against it but the county pushed it through because of Inventory shortage. The only downside to this plan is Bay Area rental laws reek havoc on investors. So much that it’s breeding predatory tenants who take advantage of these laws to claim stake on your investment. this is happened to almost all of my friends who are investors and have rental properties. 

    even the property I recently acquired now had these predatory tenants in it the investor just couldn’t hold out while these tenants decided not to pay rent anymore and on top of that they demanded a payout to leave! I just so happen to come in at the right time. It sucks but that’s the Bay Area for ya! Another topic another thread but yeah that does sound like a good plan!
  • New to Real Estate · Member since 2020 · 18 posts · 3 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Brian O.:
    Quote from @Brian Garlington:

    If you have your own plans and architectual drawings then you may come across to some GC's as a potentially overbearing client. The good GC's will have their own people and plans and would most likely not put you at the top of the list. 

    Why not simply keep the property, gt cash out....and rent it out.......and then use that money as a down payment for another property. That way you have your eggs in multiple baskets. 

    This actually doesn’t sound to bad the previous owner had this same idea. He turned an SFR into a duplex. A freaking duplex nestled smack dab in the middle of a suburban neighborhood with no other duplex’s around. 

    the neighborhood Petitioned against it but the county pushed it through because of Inventory shortage. The only downside to this plan is Bay Area rental laws reek havoc on investors. So much that it’s breeding predatory tenants who take advantage of these laws to claim stake on your investment. this is happened to almost all of my friends who are investors and have rental properties. 

    even the property I recently acquired now had these predatory tenants in it the investor just couldn’t hold out while these tenants decided not to pay rent anymore and on top of that they demanded a payout to leave! I just so happen to come in at the right time. It sucks but that’s the Bay Area for ya! Another topic another thread but yeah that does sound like a good plan!

    This could be good for investors that are seasoned like that but for someone like me just starting out i wouldn’t have the capital to battle with tenants like that.  

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