JV Agreement 3 party - First time questions

JV Agreement 3 party - First time questions

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Hello
I'm considering an opportunity to work with 2 other partners to buy a knockdown and build a vacation home to flip.
The 2 other partners would do the labor.  One is a reputable home builder in the area and the other a GC / Kitchen / Bath company (2-4 employees).
I would be the money guy.  I'm trying to figure out what a fair distribution of profits would be.  

What If I'm covering the purchase price of the home and paying the partners for the materials and their labor to build the home upfront?
What if I agree to cover all material costs and they need to invest the labor and their labor comes off expenses after sale?
What is typical or is every partnership different? 

In the scenario where I cover all costs up front (including the partners labor), I don't see how my partners would assume any of the risk.
I need to be protected from overages in labor and delays in build time.
If I'm paying for their labor to build upfront then, for the partners, this partnership would be just some steady work and a potential payout on the flip.
For me, I would be taking all the risk and hope they don't bleed the profits with unexpected build/labor costs.

In the area that I'm looking to do this demand is high and it's difficult to get a builder to schedule work less than a year out.
The opportunity to have a good builder who is ready to work and will commit time to this flip is why I'm interested.

Appreciate any guidance.  Thank you.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 22 posts · 8 votes
    4y

    Hi @Denis L'Huillier.

    This is a complicated question but a couple of quick thoughts:

    1. If you pay for everything (scenario) there is no incentive for them to move faster other than the payout. I wouldn't do this. I would have them invest something so that they have skin in the game. 

    2. Every partnership is different, it really comes down to what your partners and you agree to. 

    3. As for distribution of profits, once again - whatever you can negotiate, but personally I would feel that if you're the money guy, and because you want to be protected against overages . . .I think a fair deal structure could be:

    - You pay for all materials and the home, you get your money back first plus some ROI on your money for putting it up. Ideally this should be the profit margin you'd like to see after all of your expenses from the perspective of you were just the 'lender', and while I think 8-10% is fair, that might be a hard pill for them to swallow. So maybe you just make it expenses + 5% which is essentially what you could make right now in some sort of high interest fund or account.

                    - They get their labor cost

                     - Profits are split in some way - once again, depending on what you negotiate. 

    Hope this helps! 

    Jonathan

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