Looking to flip in Broward County, FL - here are my notes and questions

Looking to flip in Broward County, FL - here are my notes and questions

Member since 2018 · 11 posts · 9 votes

OK, so I just finished the Epic real estate investor training offered by Matt Theriault and also attended the South Florida Real Estate Investor Association meeting here - www.SEFREIA.com

Met some nice people and started this morning calling upcoming foreclosures with the intent of being a wholesaler. But I realized, I would prefer to simply buy these listed auctions and flip them. Why? Because calling people is a dead-end even using DealMachine (which I did). And most people are receiving many calls by the time I call them. 


It is more direct to just win the auction, fix the property and flip it. Here are today's auction results - https://www.broward.realforeclose.com/index.cfm?zaction=AUCT...

In short, 3 properties sold - 2 houses and 1. Let's ignore the condo. I dont want to get involved in those. Just SFR

18763 NW 23 ST PEMBROKE PINES, 33029 

- judgement amount 8k

- auction price 120k

- Zestimate 700k - 18763 NW 23rd St, Pembroke Pines, FL 33029 | Zillow

202 MADDY LN NORTH LAUDERDALE, 33068

- judgement amount 6k

- auction price 60k

- Zestimate 410k -202 Maddy Ln, North Lauderdale, FL 33068 | Zillow

Let's assess these sales:

there is  500k difference between zestimate and auction price for the first one and 300k of difference for the second one... wow!!!

but two issues loom:

1 - what does the inside of the property look like

2 - are there any encumbrances?

And now

- I met local guys who we know and trust that do fix and flip.. so I just need to funds for the loan.

The loan calculations

- I've found a lender that lends 90% of property price and 100% of rehab - https://vistacapitalsolutions.com/financial-options/fix-and-...

so for a 120k property, I estimate 20k of repair.

- I borrow 140k

- pay 10% down (14k)

- pay  3% closing costs of $3,600

- the amount due after 140k has the down payment applied is 126k.

- 10% of 126k must be in the bank when you borrow so $12,600 must be showing in savings.

- the bank account must also show 6 months of interest payments .. at 1% per month that is $7,560... so $12,600 + $7560 = $20k

- so adding down payment, 10% showing, 6 mos payments showing and closing costs, you need 37k in the bank before they will loan you the 140k.

Most fix and flips take about 6 months to do, that's why they have those loan terms.

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Kevin IveyPro Member
Flipper/Rehabber · Marysville, WA · Member since 2020 · 216 posts · 126 votes
1y

I am working in foreclosure flips in WA state.  I find those spreads hard to believe.  Otherwise im moving next week and every other flipper/ contractor.  Is this a trustee or tax/ judicial sale very different animals.

Most trustee sales post pone 2-4 times and then go sale off.  So lots of research and due diligence for no sale to happen.  

Most lenders won't loan before being able to do an appraisal a non starter for auctions.  You have to have the full cashier check amount ready to pay on the court steps.

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  • Kevin IveyPro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Marysville, WA · Member since 2020 · 216 posts · 126 votes
    1y

    I am working in foreclosure flips in WA state.  I find those spreads hard to believe.  Otherwise im moving next week and every other flipper/ contractor.  Is this a trustee or tax/ judicial sale very different animals.

    Most trustee sales post pone 2-4 times and then go sale off.  So lots of research and due diligence for no sale to happen.  

    Most lenders won't loan before being able to do an appraisal a non starter for auctions.  You have to have the full cashier check amount ready to pay on the court steps.

    • Member since 2018 · 11 posts · 9 votes
      1y

      Florida has 2 different auctions - tax deed and judicial foreclosure. My original post linked you to the judicial foreclosure site - https://www.broward.realforeclose.com/index.cfm?zaction=AUCT...

      I wasnt aware that Most lenders won't loan before being able to do an appraisasal and hence this makes auctions a no-go. 


      And I also wasnt aware that I wouldnt be able to get the loan money a few days after the auction to pay.

      Thank you for taking me to school :)

  • Kevin IveyPro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Marysville, WA · Member since 2020 · 216 posts · 126 votes
    1y

    There are lenders that will loan on auction properties but they are usually hyper regional and a specialty.  The one I work with also provides the service of vetting the properties doing lien research and a dive by estimate (still run your own numbers).  

    Judicial auctions a lot of time have the right of redemption maybe upto 12 months.  Tax liens you usually can't get an eviction and most title insurance companies won't insure for 7yrs after you take possession so can't flip but could hold and rent.  Look for notice of Trustee sales those are the clean bank foreclosures go watch an auction or two. you will be able to find out if there is a local lender there.  I have made a good/ decent living do 3 or 4 foreclosure properties a year with the occasional wholesaler deal mixed in.  But it is work.

  • Specialist · Winter Springs, FL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 747 votes
    1y

    The low judgement amount vs the estimate market value leads me to believe these may be HOA or COA foreclosures in which case 1st mtgs will survive and the purchaser will be taking subject to. Do you know how to search/examine title and read/understand foreclosure pleadings?

    • Member since 2018 · 11 posts · 9 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Peter Walther:

      The low judgement amount vs the estimate market value leads me to believe these may be HOA or COA foreclosures in which case 1st mtgs will survive and the purchaser will be taking subject to. Do you know how to search/examine title and read/understand foreclosure pleadings?


      I do not know how to title search or read foreclosure pleadings.

    • Specialist · Winter Springs, FL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 747 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Terrence M Brannon:
      Quote from @Peter Walther:

      The low judgement amount vs the estimate market value leads me to believe these may be HOA or COA foreclosures in which case 1st mtgs will survive and the purchaser will be taking subject to. Do you know how to search/examine title and read/understand foreclosure pleadings?


      I do not know how to title search or read foreclosure pleadings.


      Then this may be an area of real estate investing for you to work with a person with some experience before trying it on your own.

  • New to Real Estate · Miami, FL · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 466 votes
    1y

    Terrence, you're definitely onto something with those auction spreads, huge potential. But you're right to flag the two main risks: unknown property condition and title issues. Always do a quick title search and be ready for hidden rehab surprises.

  • Lender · Sanford, NC · Member since 2024 · 351 posts · 117 votes
    1y

    Great initiative diving into foreclosure auctions, Terrence. You’re absolutely right—those spreads look amazing on paper, but auction deals come with big caveats: access, liens, unknown repairs, and needing cash or fast capital. Lenders typically won’t fund these because they require an appraisal and clear title, both of which are unavailable pre-auction.

    That said, if you’re serious about flips and have a solid local team, I’d suggest looking into off-market deals or distressed listings where lenders can come in with 90% purchase and 100% rehab.

    Happy to share more if you’re looking at other deals that might qualify!

    • Dean WagstaffePro Member
      Member since 2021 · 12 posts · 4 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Deborah Wodell:

      Great initiative diving into foreclosure auctions, Terrence. You’re absolutely right—those spreads look amazing on paper, but auction deals come with big caveats: access, liens, unknown repairs, and needing cash or fast capital. Lenders typically won’t fund these because they require an appraisal and clear title, both of which are unavailable pre-auction.

      That said, if you’re serious about flips and have a solid local team, I’d suggest looking into off-market deals or distressed listings where lenders can come in with 90% purchase and 100% rehab.

      Happy to share more if you’re looking at other deals that might qualify!

      Where can you find distressed Listings?
  • Dean WagstaffePro Member
    Member since 2021 · 12 posts · 4 votes
    1y

    Where can you find distressed listing?

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