Need plumbing advice on rental rehab units

Need plumbing advice on rental rehab units

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Last year I was approached by a gentleman that had purchased a low income 3 family house occupied by a low income disgusting families. Before I took on the building, there was 8 feet of garbage alone in the back yard. Poor guy got sold a bill of goods and got the house for $32,000.00 CASH which in this area is a decent chunk of change. The guys life savings. Anyway - The copper was robbed out of the walls and the basement. As a property manager now I obviously see that I have some plumbing work to do - but I am running into a few problems.

1.) The city actually requires you to have inspectors come in and approve the property - because it has been vacant for 3 years and now lost it's Certificate of Occupancy - I have an idea of what it is going to take, but from the windows to the walls to the fixtures, switches, plumbing - the works needs to be repaired and I need to do the labor to cut back on labor cost. I don't want to hire a contractor if I can do it myself!!!

2.) I am on a budget - An Itty Bitty Budget. I am doing what I can with what I have. I need to find out what the most cost efficient way to do the plumbing. The city hasn't upgraded to PVC yet and demands Copper. Pex, CPVC it's all no good. I am stuck with copper - which obviously will really cost me. I have seen it in the straight lengths and the coil, but should I use? Also what is the best way to go when running... 3/4" ID. or 1/2"ID...Does size matter in regards to each floor (3 total)? Like I said before the original copper was robbed so I have to replace ALL the pipes in the building. :cry:

If anyone has any pointers, I am all ears. I am looking for the most cost efficient ways to do things, but I don't want to keep having to repair stuff either.

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Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
18y

In many areas, you must be a licensed plumber to do any plumbing. Some locations have exceptions if you are the owner AND occupy the property. Check with your building department before you start the work.

Code covers what size to use for what application. For single family, 3/4" nominal is typically used for distribution lines with 1/2" nominal to most fixtures.

I recommend getting bids from multiple plumbers.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Mercer Island, WA · Member since 2008 · 22k+ posts · 14k+ votes
    18y

    In many areas, you must be a licensed plumber to do any plumbing. Some locations have exceptions if you are the owner AND occupy the property. Check with your building department before you start the work.

    Code covers what size to use for what application. For single family, 3/4" nominal is typically used for distribution lines with 1/2" nominal to most fixtures.

    I recommend getting bids from multiple plumbers.

  • Real Estate Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2008 · 46 posts · 3 votes
    18y

    I recommend that you have the owner get a Home Depot personal credit card for the max amount they can obtain. Any purchase over $300 is interest free for 6 to 12 months. This should help in getting interest free funds available for materials. I have even done whole jobs on the Home Depot credit card for up to 15K and only had to do the minimum payments until the properties were sold or refinanced. If at all possible do not install copper again. I used PEX on my last job and liked the results. Just make sure to have home runs installed so it will reduce the possible leaks. As Wheatie said get multiple bids. It does not pay to do slow work as it will give people time to break into the property again. Invest in steal frame door jambs and install motion sensing lights on the front and rear of the property. Start with the easiest unit, rent it and then start on the next unit. Good luck!

  • Member since 2009 · 8 posts · 3 votes
    17y

    I agree with daniel, i would avoid copper if there is a problem with theft. The cost of copper has gone down so it seems theft has gone down, but I still think pex is more user friendly than sweating copper. Jon always has great advice, and I agree that it may be required by local code to have a licensed plumber do the work. Some plumbers, especially new build/remodel plumbers, are hurting for work due to the economy and are more willing to work for cheap! Multiple bids seems like the way to go in your case. If you ever need some quick plumbing advice shoot me and email [REMOVED], I am a licensed,bonded, and insured in Phoenix.

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