Hard Money- What Do You Pay?

Hard Money- What Do You Pay?

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Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes

Just curious, what do other people out there in Bigger Pockets land pay for Hard Money these days?

My main lender is 10 points, 10% APR, 2 year notes, LTV depends on the situation but usually around 75% ARV or cross-collateralizing another property for 100% ARV.

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Lender · Tyngsboro, MA · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
14y

Hard money varies considerably by location. So what one person pays in Oklahoma is likely not available in Florida.

My rates go from 11% interest and 5 points, to 14% interest and 2 points. Rates are deal and borrower dependent. The less cash you have in the deal, the higher the rates. Experience matters, as does the location of the property.

Standard hard money rates in MA and NH start at 14% and 4 points and vary up and down by deal. Although having said that, the terms "standard" and "hard money" are contradictions in terms.

In addition, the national "hard money" companies typically have higher rates to compensate for the lack of local knowledge.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Salem, OR · Member since 2011 · 422 posts · 149 votes
    14y

    5 year - 10%, 5 points, 90% LTV, 80% ARV

  • Investor · Grand Rapids, MI · Member since 2012 · 74 posts · 8 votes
    14y

    It appears that HML's charge about 15-20% APR on lending. Is this a fair statement? What type of risk does a HML take on- do they record a mortgage?

    I'm curious how one becomes a HML? Is there a common site where they advertise or do people recommend Craigslist, etc?

  • Sandy Springs, GA · Member since 2011 · 126 posts · 31 votes
    14y

    Jeremy, thats the APR I always see.

  • Real Estate Investor · Jarrettsville, MD · Member since 2010 · 76 posts · 12 votes
    14y

    12.5%
    3 points
    18 month term
    1 point for 12 month extensions.

    He is a landlord client of mine through my tenant placement business, I give him a reduced fee and he helps me with the terms.
    His Standard terms are 15% 5 points and 12 months.

  • Lender · Tyngsboro, MA · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    14y

    Hard money varies considerably by location. So what one person pays in Oklahoma is likely not available in Florida.

    My rates go from 11% interest and 5 points, to 14% interest and 2 points. Rates are deal and borrower dependent. The less cash you have in the deal, the higher the rates. Experience matters, as does the location of the property.

    Standard hard money rates in MA and NH start at 14% and 4 points and vary up and down by deal. Although having said that, the terms "standard" and "hard money" are contradictions in terms.

    In addition, the national "hard money" companies typically have higher rates to compensate for the lack of local knowledge.

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