How do you get out of a flip that’s not selling?

How do you get out of a flip that’s not selling?

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I have a property that has been on the market since November in Spring, TX. Took a hard money loan out on it to cover purchase and repairs. Hard money loan is about to expire. I know what my lessons learned with the property are. However, what are some strategies you would suggest to get out of this bad situation?

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Lien VuongBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Boston, MA · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
6y

Try to get into traditional financing and renting the property out. Perhaps it would be good to get a lease to own tenant also to hold the property without further bleeding. 

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  • Developer · Charlottesville, VA · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Robin Jones:

    I have a property that has been on the market since November in Spring, TX. Took a hard money loan out on it to cover purchase and repairs. Hard money loan is about to expire. I know what my lessons learned with the property are. However, what are some strategies you would suggest to get out of this bad situation?

    Make sure to discuss with your lender and get an extension. Be upfront honest and proactive. You can drop the price even if you break even or maybe lose a little bit that’s better than losing the whole thing. You can do a lease option, rent to own or owner finance.

  • Lender · Member since 2019 · 604 posts · 160 votes
    6y

    First step go the lender and ask for extension.  Second step sell the property for as much as you can.  If not you may be able to do a refi.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    6y

    as @Greg Dickerson stated you need to be talking to your lender now. most will have extension fee's and default interest you want to negotiate those down if possible. HML will want to be paid though so creative financing would only work with their blessing.. if you refi the LO rent to own etc comes into play.. but most HML are just going to say drop the price and pay us off sorry it did not work

  • Rental Property Investor · Concord, GA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    You marketed the property during a typically slow time of the year. Drop the price and stop the bleeding. If you lose money on this flip, it won't be an uncommon event, many people do. Hopefully you have gained a body of knowledge that has a significant value and can perhaps do another one with a better outcome. The property will sell if you reduce the price enough.

  • Rental Property Investor · Concord, GA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    You didn't indicate what you feel the issues were that got you into this situation but it's common for people to 1. Overestimate the ARV. 2. Underestimate the renovation cost. 3. Underestimate the time period required to flip the property, thus increasing holding costs.

    My guess is that it's all three. You're in a pretty large club if that fits your situation.

  • Lien VuongBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Boston, MA · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    Try to get into traditional financing and renting the property out. Perhaps it would be good to get a lease to own tenant also to hold the property without further bleeding. 

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 274 posts · 61 votes
    6y

    I agree with @Lien Vuong.

    I'd talk to lenders about refinancing, especially right now you could potentially get great low rates for a buy and hold.

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 274 posts · 61 votes
    6y

    Not necessarily "traditional" lenders though. Call smaller banks and credit unions to see what they have. If alls well, get one to approve the refi, then take that quote on to another bank or CU and get them to beat it. Then go to another and so on until the numbers work.

  • Realtor · Boston, MA · Member since 2014 · 159 posts · 75 votes
    6y

    I agree with Lien and Pete.  You should perhaps try to refinance out of the hard money loan and into a conventional loan with a small bank or credit union and then see if you can get a tenant and hold it until you can find a buyer that is willing to take it for a decent price.

  • Jonathan GreeneBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Madison, NJ · Member since 2016 · 6k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    6y

    I think everyone is asking the wrong question. Why do you have a flip still on the market at the expiration of your Hard Money loan? There are only two reasons and they both might apply 1. The renovation wasn't good and/or 2. The price was set too high and you are being stubborn about lowering it because you don't want to lose money on the deal. There is always a price. What has the feedback been? Too many flippers know what their mistakes were, know they overdid it, but sit there with a house on the market thinking someone is going to save them. Each day it is still on the market makes it less valuable, especially as a flip. Cut the price and cut your losses before sinking into another loan to rent it for years and get no return.

  • Corby GoadeBusiness Member
    Investor · Boise, ID · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    Would it cash flow? If you could refi with conventional lending and get a renter in there it could help you turn things around. Always have at least two exit strategies, it's too stressful to have HM hanging over your head. 

    Best of luck!

  • Theresa HarrisPro Member
    Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    6y

    Another vote for getting traditional financing and turning it into a rental.  You can then sell it in a year or two during the spring or summer when people are more likely to buy a home.

  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2019 · 274 posts · 61 votes
    6y

    @Theresa Harris

    Might even fall in love with cash flow

  • Rental Property Investor · AZ · Member since 2018 · 212 posts · 183 votes
    6y

    Rent it IMMEDIATELY. Then refinance into 30 year with the leases income. 

    Try to sell again at lease expiration. Or hold forever and build wealth. 

  • Investor · Syracuse, NY · Member since 2010 · 166 posts · 76 votes
    6y

    Somewhere between $1 and what your asking is where this will sell.  Keep dropping until you hit that number or rent it out.  Only 2 options you have.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Montgomery, NY · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    Drop the price and get it sold. Nearly any house will sell when prices right (or low).

    You can try and refinance it and rent it out. Keep in mind there are hurdles there too. If it isn't selling it may be overpriced and when you refinance you may not get the value out of it you expect. Hopefully you get enough to pay off the HML at a minimum.

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