Adding square footage to existing block-and-base foundation

Adding square footage to existing block-and-base foundation

Investor · Allen, TX · Member since 2016 · 104 posts · 37 votes

I am trying to figure out a cost-effective way to add a new foundation to an old (1960s) block and base foundation. This is quite an old style of foundation and in case you are not familiar it's like this, except the one I'm looking at has tree trunk (blocks) instead of cement blocks as shown below:

The layout I'm working on looks something like this and I'm 

I've spoken with a number of structural engineers and gotten different answers from each one. Here are the options:

  1. Some say that you need to use the same style piers on both the old and new sides. 
  2. One engineer says the same style piers on both sides need to go down 12' and some say that 12' is just too much.  (12' deep piers on both sides to me seems like the safest way but it's also unnecessary over-engineering and extremely expensive). 
  3. One engineer says that all you need to do is level the old foundation and pour a slab on the new side. The two foundations can be leveled and joined with rebars. (this is the most cost-effective solution). Being in Texas, gound movements happen all the time and good gutter system and a foundation warranty should be enough. 

Has anyone had any experience with adding square footage by combining 2 different foundation styles? 

Curious what are the minimum requirements for a city typically just so I understand the options better. 

Thanks!

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    • Mike ReynoldsPro Member
      construction · Nacogdoches, TX · Member since 2011 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      5y
      Originally posted by @Milind Shastri:

      I am trying to figure out a cost-effective way to add a new foundation to an old (1960s) block and base foundation. This is quite an old style of foundation and in case you are not familiar it's like this, except the one I'm looking at has tree trunk (blocks) instead of cement blocks as shown below:

      The layout I'm working on looks something like this and I'm 

      I've spoken with a number of structural engineers and gotten different answers from each one. Here are the options:

      1. Some say that you need to use the same style piers on both the old and new sides. 
      2. One engineer says the same style piers on both sides need to go down 12' and some say that 12' is just too much.  (12' deep piers on both sides to me seems like the safest way but it's also unnecessary over-engineering and extremely expensive). 
      3. One engineer says that all you need to do is level the old foundation and pour a slab on the new side. The two foundations can be leveled and joined with rebars. (this is the most cost-effective solution). Being in Texas, gound movements happen all the time and good gutter system and a foundation warranty should be enough. 

      Has anyone had any experience with adding square footage by combining 2 different foundation styles? 

      Curious what are the minimum requirements for a city typically just so I understand the options better. 

      Thanks!

        I am assuming the code is going to require this? 

        What you probably have without me looking at it is cypress logs in the ground if they used wood. They wont rot. They would just take the logs, put them in the ground and then use  a water level to cut them all level. If not then you have problems. 

        There is a 3rd option. Pour a chain wall around the perimeter and build it back with wood joists. If you do not have cypress, I would pour one around the whole house. This will require a house mover to jack up your house though. Then you will have to do some plumbing underneath.  If you dont want to do that just do a chain wall around the new part. You will have a crawlspace throughout. 

      1. Investor · Malakoff, TX · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
        5y

        I've never built one, but I've seen both ways having been done in existing properties.

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