It is truly an enigma to me how people speak so generally about people and situations. Renatus and Scott Rowe are in a class all their own. Just like bigger pockets, Renatus is a business. A business must earn money to survive. Scott Rowe and his wife Nancy have sacrificed incredibly to build such a fantastic business in Downers Grove. Every time I attend I learn something new, there are hundreds of very excited people there that actually form a community. Look, you get out what you put in. Another saying "You get what you pay for".
I can go all day long trying to find the saying that speaks to your heart. I won't. Like anything else you must go see for yourself and experience it, then decide. Those who fail at Renatus, Bigger Pockets or any other educational source just does not have that thing that makes them a real estate investor. It is not for every one. However just because you pay to go to school and you feel that you learned very little does not make the school at all bad. If the education taught is good and you drop out, you are the problem, not the education regardless where you get it.
Renatus education is life time education. Meaning you can go back whenever you decide even 5 years after you signed up without having to repay tuition. Then the MLM remarks. Geez! It is an opportunity for its students to make money and pay for tuition. The education on marketing alone is worth thousands of dollars alone. I see the marketing as appointment setting, you do not need to spend countless hours on the phone. If that's what you are doing you are doing it wrong. That is not what you are taught. There is no selling. the marketing musters interest, people contact you, you set an appointment and Scott Rowe and his team close the deal from there when they show up to see the business briefing. Simple.
Do they form a structured team? Yes, does the team follow tiers, levels and other requirements only until you are fully certified. Why? it helps to motivate and sets goals, this allows you to measure your progress is you are getting in at the bottom. You get to earn your way to the top. However if you already have tuition money or are willing to take the "anyone will qualify financing of the tuition" you have noting else to think about except your education.
It is untrue to say that they constantly harp on you getting other people to join. That is simply not true. However if you start as an Independent Marketing Affiliate and want bigger and better benefits or the flagship education you need to do the marketing and earn the tuition money. can anyone see that? Why does everything have to be like some other crap in the past? This is the only school that I know of that will allow you to become educated on the art and skill of marketing in order for you to earn your tuition on a spare time basis. Whats wrong with that if you have limited income and trying to work your way up? Once you are where you want to be there is no more marketing, you now paid for the ediucation and because it is real estate buying and selling, guess what now you get to look at others marketing efforts when buying then you get to use the very same skills you used to market Renatus to now sell the real estate you are trying to sell. Se how that works hand in hand?
People, please. Even bigger pockets sells a subscription based on the knowledge of other people. It's a business. So if you recommend Bigger Pockets and they make a few bucks they are scammers because they did not share profits with you? Are they scammers because you share your experiences and they do not pay you for your articles? Is bigger Pockets a scam because you have been reading it for months and have not made one deal yet? All a big resounding no! This is a incredible source of information called free by those who are not subscribed to the pro version. Just because you don't pay a fee does not mean it is free to those who maintain the site.
You get the info free because you do not want to pay for it. That is your choice. However, some people need more than a website with a mash of information. That is why on occasion even Bigger Pockets offer structured education and services here and there. There is nothing wrong with that right? It's a business! Information sells! So at the end of the day are you willing to invest in yourself and write off the expense? or continue to use paid resources that you will not contribute too. Even PBS ask for money to keep programming alive. If you do not watch and fail learn about monkeys in the Amazon does not make them bad either.
Point is. Education we all need. Check it out for yourself and avoid the prejudices of others that may not have the insight, understanding, motivation and ability or desire to pay that you do. Get a structured education or structure the education information you have available and support those that make it available.