Indy 4-plex BRRRR quick case study + rent/DSCR guardrails

Indy 4-plex BRRRR quick case study + rent/DSCR guardrails

Frank PyleBusiness Member
Specialist · USA · Member since 2024 · 279 posts · 130 votes

Sharing a quick Indy 4-plex BRRRR example and a couple of guardrails I'm using when I look at deals here.

Recent 4-plex structure (Indianapolis):

  • Purchase: $190K

  • Rehab: ~$55K (mix of systems + interior turns, no heavy structural)

  • All-in: ~$245K

  • ARV: appraised just over $310K

  • Rents: 4 x $1,050 = $4,200/mo

  • Taxes/insurance/PM/maintenance: coming in around $1,600–$1,700/mo all-in

  • DSCR refi: 75% LTV, rate in the high-7s, DSCR ~1.30–1.35

A few takeaways that might help other Indy/BRRRR folks:

  1. Buy box discipline matters more than the “deal story.”
    On paper there were “bigger upside” options, but they required $80K+ rehab and more vacancy risk. Keeping the total rehab in that $50K–$60K range on a small multi has been a sweet spot lately for staying financeable and on schedule.

  2. Stress-test DSCR before you ever offer.
    I underwrite assuming:

    • Slightly lower rents than pro forma

    • Slightly higher taxes/insurance than current
      If DSCR is still ≥1.20–1.25 at refi using those conservative numbers, I get a lot more comfortable. If it's only penciling at 1.05–1.10 with rosy assumptions, I pass.

  3. Rent-comp sanity checks > fancy spreadsheets.
    For this one, I:

    • Pulled BP + Zillow/Zumper comps

    • Cross-checked with a local PM on what they’re actually getting leased

    • Looked at whether any of the comps were offering big concessions
      That kept the pro forma honest and made the DSCR numbers much less of a guess.

  4. Plan your refi timeline around rehab + lease-up reality, not the best-case.
    If you underwrite assuming a 6-month refi but your contractor really works on a 9-month timeline, build your cash plan around the 9.

Curious how others are stress-testing DSCR and rents on Indy small multis right now. What DSCR floor are you all using to stay comfortable on a BRRRR exit?

Frank Pyle at ExP Realty
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James JonesPro Member
Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 592 posts · 445 votes
9mo

Great breakdown, Frank. Totally agree with the guardrails you laid out. DSCR deals get dangerous fast when investors underwrite with best-case rents and today's unrealistically low expense assumptions.

A couple things we’ve been doing in Memphis that line up with your approach:

• We stress-test at 1.20–1.25 DSCR using actual operating data from our portfolio, not just pro forma. If it only pencils at 1.05 with rosy assumptions, we don't touch it.

• On small multis, keeping rehab in that $50K–$60K range has been the sweet spot for financing and timeline predictability just like you mentioned. Anything above that tends to break the BRRRR.

• Rent comps matter more than spreadsheets. We cross-check BP + Zillow + our PM's actual leased units before we underwrite a single number. Removing the guesswork keeps our exit DSCR honest.

Curious what you're seeing in Indy on DSCR floors. Most of our lenders are sitting around the 1.15–1.20 requirement right now depending on seasoning and rent stability.

Always appreciate posts like this. Real numbers, not theory.

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  • James JonesPro Member
    Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 592 posts · 445 votes
    9mo

    Great breakdown, Frank. Totally agree with the guardrails you laid out. DSCR deals get dangerous fast when investors underwrite with best-case rents and today's unrealistically low expense assumptions.

    A couple things we’ve been doing in Memphis that line up with your approach:

    • We stress-test at 1.20–1.25 DSCR using actual operating data from our portfolio, not just pro forma. If it only pencils at 1.05 with rosy assumptions, we don't touch it.

    • On small multis, keeping rehab in that $50K–$60K range has been the sweet spot for financing and timeline predictability just like you mentioned. Anything above that tends to break the BRRRR.

    • Rent comps matter more than spreadsheets. We cross-check BP + Zillow + our PM's actual leased units before we underwrite a single number. Removing the guesswork keeps our exit DSCR honest.

    Curious what you're seeing in Indy on DSCR floors. Most of our lenders are sitting around the 1.15–1.20 requirement right now depending on seasoning and rent stability.

    Always appreciate posts like this. Real numbers, not theory.

    • Frank PyleBusiness Member
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      Specialist · USA · Member since 2024 · 279 posts · 130 votes
      9mo
      Quote from @James Jones:

      Great breakdown, Frank. Totally agree with the guardrails you laid out. DSCR deals get dangerous fast when investors underwrite with best-case rents and today's unrealistically low expense assumptions.

      A couple things we’ve been doing in Memphis that line up with your approach:

      • We stress-test at 1.20–1.25 DSCR using actual operating data from our portfolio, not just pro forma. If it only pencils at 1.05 with rosy assumptions, we don't touch it.

      • On small multis, keeping rehab in that $50K–$60K range has been the sweet spot for financing and timeline predictability just like you mentioned. Anything above that tends to break the BRRRR.

      • Rent comps matter more than spreadsheets. We cross-check BP + Zillow + our PM's actual leased units before we underwrite a single number. Removing the guesswork keeps our exit DSCR honest.

      Curious what you're seeing in Indy on DSCR floors. Most of our lenders are sitting around the 1.15–1.20 requirement right now depending on seasoning and rent stability.

      Always appreciate posts like this. Real numbers, not theory.

      James, this is spot on. Love seeing someone actually backing it up with real portfolio data instead of spreadsheet fantasy.

      In Indy I'm seeing very similar things to what you're describing in Memphis. Most DSCR lenders on my end are landing in that 1.15–1.20 floor range right now, depending on whether it's a purchase vs. cash-out, seasoning, and how stable the rent history is. That said, I am seeing some programs go under a 1.0 DSCR in very specific cases — usually when you've got really strong credit, low leverage in that 65–70% LTV band, and substantial reserves. Those are more "exception-worthy" deals than anything I'd ever want an investor to underwrite as their baseline.

      Where I see people get into trouble is exactly what you called out: pro forma rents and today's taxes/insurance instead of where those numbers are actually headed. One tax reassessment or insurance bump and that "1.20" can turn into 1.05 overnight. I'm also with you on that $50K–$60K rehab lane being the BRRRR sweet spot on small multis. Once you're pushing much above that, you're in light/medium reposition territory and need to treat it like a true value-add play, not a simple BRRRR.

      Really appreciate you sharing what’s working in Memphis. It’s super helpful to compare notes market-to-market when we’re all trying to run real numbers, not wishful thinking.


      Frank Pyle at ExP Realty
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  • Rental Property Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2021 · 774 posts · 500 votes
    9mo

    @Frank Pyle - Curious.. Did the appraiser use comps to determine the value or did he/she utilize rental income or operating income of the building. I know <5 units they typically rely on comps, but wondering if they considered rent income since you mentioned it above. Thanks!

  • Frank PyleBusiness Member
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    Specialist · USA · Member since 2024 · 279 posts · 130 votes
    9mo

    On this one it was a 4-unit done as a residential DSCR loan, so they treated it like a normal 1–4 unit for value. The appraiser used sales comps to establish the value, but because it was DSCR they also had to include a 1007 rent schedule with rental comps to support the DSCR ratio.

    So short answer: value was based on sales comps, but they did look at rental income as well through the 1007, not to set the value, but to make sure the DSCR penciled out.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2024 · 6 posts · 8 votes
    9mo

    Hi Frank, 

    Thanks for sharing the details, I like your approach and will try to follow your advice. I live in VA and have been looking into some deals in W. Lafayette market since my son goes to Purdue and see potential in that market.

    I have not been able to find a deal in that that works. I was thinking about looking into Indy market; been told that it's a growing market. I'm looking at long term hold and want to do BRR strategy if possible.

    Wondering if folks can provide guidance about Indy market, if I'm an out of state investor. Is small multi-family a better way than SFR?

  • Member since 2020 · 25 posts · 11 votes
    9mo

    Hey Frank great post. I was punching the numbers you provided and getting a DSCR of 1.89 which is an insanely good deal. Can you check what I'm missing I'd like to use the same cross checking when I run the numbers on deals as well.

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