My first SFR in the Buffalo NY area.

My first SFR in the Buffalo NY area.

Jesse OttesenPro Member
Investor · Staten Island, NY · Member since 2016 · 31 posts · 23 votes

In July 2020, we closed on our first SFR rental during the height of Covid. We were working with an investor friendly Realtor and had been looking in Amherst New York near University at Buffalo for several months. We kept losing out to higher bidders, and all cash no contingency bidders. In May our Realtor showed us a 3 Bd 1Ba in Kenmore NY via Zoom along with several other homes. The seller was an absentee landlord asking $130K. The following day the Realtor called me to let me know there was an offer going in on the Kenmore house. I made an offer of $116K cash with no contingencies and $40K in earnest money. We went into contract for $117,500.

In June we went up to inspect the house, it’s a 7-hour drive from where I live. First lesson, video inspections are not a good substitute for in person. The house was in rougher shape than it appeared on Zoom and the stairway carpet smelt like money, dog urine. Didn’t matter, I had already put down a $40K non refundable earnest deposit and more importantly, as soon as we went into contract, I had lined up 3 tenants (college students) to begin renting in mid-August. Second lesson, closings take longer during a pandemic. We thought we would close in early July, we ended up closing July 23. I started looking for contractors about a month before closing so I could have them start right after closing. Lesson 3, in a hot market, contractors are booked several months in advance.

Good thing I’m handy. For 5 weeks I drove back and forth from NYC on weekends with either my father or a friend to help me renovate. There's nothing like a drop-dead hard deadline to help you accomplish your goals. Just like on those TV renovation shows, as my first tenant pulled into the driveway on August 22nd, I was under the sink completing the last plumbing connection. The one thing I couldn’t self-perform was repaving the driveway, which I scheduled for late September. As the weather got colder the furnace shut down a few times so I had a new one installed right before Christmas.

We used a HELOC on our primary residence to fund the whole deal with the intention of putting a first mortgage on the property after 6 months. Last month upon the suggestion of a mortgage broker and the advice from my accountant, we've decided to refi our primary residence and put the rental house in an LLC. For us, asset protection is more important.

In summary, this probably was not a neighborhood I would have looked in. The taxes are relatively high and all the houses including mine were built in the early 1900s. But, the neighbors are great and I’m glad my Realtor directed me there. Since our closing, houses in the neighbor never seem to last more than a week on the market and everything is selling at higher prices than we paid. When we did our walk through in June I put together an estimate of the cost of all repairs and I’ve stayed within budget. I still have more work to do on the property, it needs to be painted and it requires some drainage and landscaping improvements.

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  • Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2018 · 304 posts · 148 votes
    5y

    Congrats on the success!  Do you have a more in depth analysis to share?  I'm interested to read more.

  • Rental Property Investor · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2020 · 26 posts · 18 votes
    5y

    @Jesse Ottesen my fiancé and I have 2 doubles in Kenmore and I agree the taxes compared to being within city limits are a downside (it's all relative though), but we've had very good luck with tenants. Filled 3 apartments during Covid with no vacancy time and increased rents and there's definitely pride of ownership in the neighbors. Can I ask what you get in rent for the SFH? On occasion I see ones that need pretty decent rehabs pop up and am intrigued.

  • Michael MackneyPro Member
    New to Real Estate · Long Island · Member since 2021 · 55 posts · 19 votes
    5y

    Thanks for the post! I went to dental school in Buffalo and since moving back to Long Island, I have had an interest in maybe doing long-distance REI in Buffalo from here.

  • Matthew Irish-JonesBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Buffalo, NY · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    5y

    @Jesse Ottesen that is the advantage of working with an investor focused Realtor. Sounds like they did a great job for you. Always nice to hear about the people side of the business with so much automation going on.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Brooklyn, NY · Member since 2017 · 65 posts · 39 votes
    5y

    @Jesse Ottesen

    Can you share What your STR numbers look like?

  • Jesse OttesenPro Member
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    Investor · Staten Island, NY · Member since 2016 · 31 posts · 23 votes
    5y

    We put 20% down and the income covers the mortgage and taxes.  M&T is about half the expenses, So it doesn’t cash flow. It’s been a good equity play because we bought right.

  • Jesse OttesenPro Member
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    Investor · Staten Island, NY · Member since 2016 · 31 posts · 23 votes
    2y

    In August 2023, we sold our Buffalo NY SFR. We never refinanced it as intended, we just kept paying down the HELOC with the rent we received. By the beginning of 2023 our monthly payment started rising as the interest rate kept increasing. By the time we closed in August my interest payment had tripled from where we started. During the three years we owned it we continued to improve the property with a new furnace and some new windows. Since we used always used the Heloc for all expenses we never really put much cash into the deal until the last 8 months when the interest rates went up and we kept it vacant for a few months prior to closing. We got the house on the market in early June and in 8 days we received 11 offers all above asking price. Our final sale price was $205,500. With the improvements we made we had about $150,000 in it. Considering that the only real cash we put in was the $8,000 in carrying costs and sale prep it was a good cash on cash return. We did have several very long weekends of sweat equity in it also. My biggest lesson learned is that being 7 hours away from the property, I was always stressed when winter storms were coming and I couldn't do anything about it. If I can get over that I might go back and invest in the Buffalo area again. PS. I had a great investor friendly Realtor.

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