Buy and hold success story (was: my first flip)

Buy and hold success story (was: my first flip)

Dawn AnastasiPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes

If you have read any of my posts on Bigger Pockets, you would know that I am 100% buy and hold. However, I had decided to try my hand at a flip property and although there was a bit of a rocky start and a few mistakes made, it turned out to have a happy ending and I wanted to share this story.

In July 2012 I purchased a 4 bedroom, 1.5 bathroom foreclosure property from Bank of America with a partner (non-BP member). The purchase price was $63,000 (the list price was $68,000) less a credit for property taxes. I put down the $1,000 earnest money deposit and paid $250 for the inspection. My business partner put up the rest of the money for the purchase.

For rehab and holding costs, my business partner put in about $8,000 and I put in just shy of $19,000. We did quite a bit of work on the property:

- Every light fixture replaced including new ceiling fans

- Took everything out of the kitchen and bathrooms and redid them including new cabinets, new flooring, and new granite counter tops, plus added a stainless steel dishwasher and over the range microwave

- Landscaping

- New garage doors (3.5 car garage) and new garage roof

- New central air

- Plumbing and electrical repairs

A couple "before and after" pictures of the kitchen:

Total cost in was $87,332.40. (This include rehab costs, and holding costs which include property taxes, insurance, and utilities.)

We held on to the property far longer than expected before listing it due to some health issues with my mother that I was taking care of. We listed it but then after doing some market research on what we could get in rent, we determined that the property would make a very good investment as a high-end rental.

We listed it for rent at $1,595 per month and found a well-qualified renter within 3 days.

We did a cash-out refinance on the house and received a check for $82,000. The majority of that will go to my business partner who put up most of the funds. After the division of money, we will each have invested $2,666.20 out of pocket on this house.

Out of the rent we are paying the mortgage, property taxes, insurance, and a healthy amount into a "reserve" account for potential repairs and vacancy. (Although we anticipate the repairs to be minimal with all the work we put into the house, it's never a bad idea to plan for the unexpected.) After all of these payments, we are each netting $260/month.

I can't say I did everything 100% right on this property, but I believe that a lot of what was done was pretty good. (P.S. You see those new cabinets? I hung and installed those myself -- with some help hanging the ones on the wall.)

Bonus: My business partner was so impressed with what I had done on this property, that he fronted me $9,500 at 0% interest which I used to purchase another property. I repaid him out of the cash-out refinance money.

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Lender · Tyngsboro, MA · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
12y

Great job, Dawn, and congratulations on doing so much of the work yourself. Now quit doing the work yourself and spend your time finding more of these!

Awesome job! I'm just green. :-)

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  • Real Estate Investor · Naperville, IL · Member since 2013 · 27 posts · 4 votes
    13y

    Great job! Thanks for sharing! "If it makes dollars, it makes sense" love it.

  • Investor · Central Valley, CA · Member since 2012 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13y
    Congrats Dawn and thanks for sharing the story. What was your listing price and did you get any offers? $1600/mo is great rent compared to similar props here. It's definitely a keeper. Again, congrats!
  • Dawn AnastasiPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    13y

    We had it listed at $124,900 and when we did the refinance the appraisal came in at $120,000. We had some lookers, but no offers.

  • Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2013 · 150 posts · 59 votes
    13y

    @Dawn Anastasi Great Job! The cabinet looks great lol

  • Roy N.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    13y

    After all that, the landlord in you just couldn't let it go ;-)

    We have a "flip come student" house that followed a similar scenario ... save I bought my partner out halfway through. Our house rents for 1800/mth ... but our costs-in are almost double yours ...

    Chapeau Mme. Anatasi!

  • Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    13y

    Dawn,

    Impressive. Can I clone you? :)

    Congrats.

  • Investor · Middletown, NJ · Member since 2008 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    13y

    Well done Dawn, congrats!

  • Investor · Appleton, WI · Member since 2012 · 1k+ posts · 464 votes
    13y

    Dawn, looks loke you did a fantastic job!! Budget looks good too for the amount you did. I too am a buy and hold investor. I bought a single family each of the last two years with the intent of flipping. First one, I had an offer torent $100/m higher than I originally estimated so I didn't even list it. Did a refinance and had about $5,000 still In the property with about $200/m cashflow. The property this year I did a lot of interior work and actually did list it. I worked on other projects for about 2 months, got impatient and listed it for rent about a month ago, had a huge response with 6 shownings the next day and a lease signed and paid the day after with them moving in 2 days after that. I am about a week away now from refinancing that one and looks like I will have an extra $6,000 out with a 70% loan to value and cash flow about $250 on a 15 year note.

    I like the idea of the quicker cash with a flip but can't seem to bring myself to commit to it when I see the long term potential. I did learn a lot from the first one, spent about $5,000 more on rehab than I planned and it could still use some interior updates as the majority of my work was exterior. The house this year I came in right on budget. I hope that is indicative of future projects ;) thanks for sharing and keep up the great work!!

  • Real Estate Agent · Milwaukee County, WI · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 525 votes
    13y

    Well done

  • Contractor · Valparaiso , IN · Member since 2013 · 604 posts · 327 votes
    13y

    @Dawn Anastasi Great work Dawn. I prefer buy & hold also, just bought my first house planned as a flip, and somehow doubt that it wont be rented lol.

    Great job hanging the cabinets, its easier than most think !

  • Brandon TurnerPro Member
    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    nice work @Dawn Anastasi !

  • Jerry W.Pro Member
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    Investor · Thermopolis, WY · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    Great job @Dawn Anastasi . Love the cabinets. I am also working my first real flip, and since today is a day off from work I had best get to it and go to work! Thanks for sharing.

  • Dawn AnastasiPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by Roy N.:
    After all that, the landlord in you just couldn't let it go ;-)

    Ha! Good one. Landlording, I wish I knew how to quit you.

  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2009 · 718 posts · 913 votes
    12y

    Wow, @Dawn Anastasi you did obviously an awesome job with fixing the place up, but the most impressive thing I take away is the rent you got. $1595/month on a $120-125k house would be amazing down here. (I would dare say near impossible) Is that about par for the course up in your area?

  • Dawn AnastasiPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    @John Chapman I had never done a "high end" rental in my area before so this was a learning experience. I've seen rentals go for over $2,000 for even larger nicer ones and those would be the ones you'd spend $120,000 on. (The tenants I got at $1595 were actually paying $2200 previously so this was a great deal for them.)

    My next highest rental amount per month is a 4-bedroom 1400 square foot home that rents for $1100/month. Although that one I spent about $52k buying it and getting it rent ready and adding a 2-car garage.

    The rent ratio to purchase price in my area is ridiculous (in a good way for investors). Houses all over the place for hardly anything and rents staying consistent.

  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2009 · 718 posts · 913 votes
    12y

    @Dawn Anastasi Dang, those are fabulous rental numbers, plus you don't get

    nailed with those killer property taxes we get down here. Kudos and keep it up.

  • Dawn AnastasiPro Member
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    Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    @John Chapman I have been told that property taxes in our area are high. The $1595/month property has about $3700/year for example.

  • Lender · Tyngsboro, MA · Member since 2009 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    12y

    Great job, Dawn, and congratulations on doing so much of the work yourself. Now quit doing the work yourself and spend your time finding more of these!

    Awesome job! I'm just green. :-)

  • Investor · Dallas, TX · Member since 2009 · 718 posts · 913 votes
    12y

    @Dawn Anastasi , yeah that's pretty close to what we pay down here. Still, those are still some pretty sweet rents.

  • Landlord and Rehabber · Newton, MA · Member since 2010 · 2k+ posts · 877 votes
    12y

    Wow nice job on the work, and more so on the deal!

    I wouldn't flip that either if you can be in for almost nothing and getting that kind of cash flow on it!

  • Engineer · Savoy, IL · Member since 2013 · 92 posts · 12 votes
    12y

    Great work Dawn!

    It sounds like you put a lot of work into the property!

    Out of curiosity, how much of the work did you do on your own? How long did the turnaround take?

    Do you track your hours spent on any given deal?

    Not to play 20 questions or anything, I'm just loving your success stories!

    What

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Monroe, WA · Member since 2013 · 56 posts · 4 votes
    12y

    Wow! A buy and hold expert, Podcast Rockstar and now she flips!!! Is there anyhting Dawn can not do??

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