How I use creative financing to get my first 6 units.

How I use creative financing to get my first 6 units.

Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes

Lately I've been going to more real estate meet ups in my local area, and I'v notice a shift change in my presence. When I first started going before I did any deals, I was always the guy asking questions, trying to pick all the experience out people's brain as I could. Now lately when I have been attending I started to notice that I was telling my story to a lot of new guys who want to get started. Then I realized that there was value in my real estate experience, no matter how much or little I had. Which lead me to want to share on bigger pockets because I'm sure some one would be able to take something from my story. 

I'll just jump right into the first deal. I've known since I was in college that real estate was the place I wanted to be. I was fascinated by the idea of owning a property and having some one pay you to live there and you make money at the end of every month for providing housing and keeping them happy. I've always wondered how does an inner city kid like myself with no money, or family or friends to get help from in this space get started. The first thing I did was turn to books, I began reading everything I could find on real estate to build a knowledge base of the field. Then I started speaking to people that seemed like they could guide me in the right direction. I ended up sitting down with a mortgage broker because I found out that having the money lined up or being able to buy was most important. During our conversation he told me about a program that would allow me to purchase a property with only 3.5% down. From there I had goal in mind and it was my focus for the next few month. I was able to land a job teaching right out of college and I went back home with mom. I paid my mother $300 a month and saved everything else that I could in order to get the down payment money I needed to buy my first house. I saved up $15,000 and bought my first 3 family home just a year after graduating collage. 

Now I am in the game, I'm 24 years old, I own a home and I'm a landlord. The FHA loan is a great way for beginners to get started, the only problem is that this trick only works once. Even with the additional income from the house, it would still take me a substantial amount of time to save up 20%-30% down for another property. Back to the drawing board, I'm reading books and calling mortgage brokers all over the state to see what I can do to get around such a large down payment. I start to get the feeling that there is no hope as the months go by and my bank account is not growing fast enough, especially with all the un expected expenses for the house and evictions with tenants which I can cover at another time if anyone is interested. In my time of desperation, I hear something about an educational program (which I will not disclose right now) that help beginners grow their real estate business. I'll keep this part short, lets just say that program was very expensive and I didn't have the money to pay for it. But these guys are smart and they know that many people would come across this problem, so they actually have a department to help people increase their credit card limits to be able to afford it. In just a week I was able to increase my total credit limit on 2 cards from $5,000 to $35,000. Through speaking with the credit card company call receivers, I discover a way to get that credit transferred to my bank account interest free for and extended period of time. Now I'm left with an ultimatum, I either spend this money on an expensive educational course or use this money to go fund my next deal and get real time experience. Now I've already been looking for a deal even though I did not have the funds. This $35,000 on top of what I already had saved put me in perfect position to buy my next deal, all I had to do was let the money get seasoned for 3 months and it was game on. This deal also had plenty of unforeseen circumstances which also can be tabled for another discussion. To keep this story short, after being under contract for 10 months, I closed on my second 3 family house. Ill give you some brief numbers on this deal an how it worked out. Total income on the house was $3,000 a month and the expenses are around $1500. I was also able to pay the credit card payments from the cash-flow of the house. I would put $500 towards the cards and $1000 in the bank for emergencies every month. Now I am in the process of doing a cash out refinance to pay the cards off.

Obviously there are a lot more details that goes in to both stories but you get the picture. A lot of people told me I was crazy to do that because of how risky it is especially with the high credit card interest or paying PMI on and FHA loan. But these are some of the same people with the same dreams as me, yet I now own 6 units and they own none. If you are going to be cheap or scared to take a risk, then maybe real estate is not for you. With every win, there are going to be loses but most importantly, experience is being gained. I always tell people do whatever it is you have to do in order to get started. It may not be the way I did it or any body else, it may be more risky or safer; but get started, slow progress is better then no progress and some money is better then no money.

Dashon Jones

Multifamily Investor

NJ Realtor 


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Flipper · The Colony, TX · Member since 2014 · 15 posts · 25 votes
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@Brian Gibbons @Dashon Jones

Come on Brian,

You don't have to try and belittle Dashon because you are so much more experienced than him. You sound very condescending and not very encouraging.

Dashon made a deal! Better than I can say for me. For us new investors trying to get our foot in the door, it can be really de motivating to hear someone like you talking down to him.

I think the purpose of these forums are to encourage each other to succeed. 

Maybe nexttime think about positively how to encourage new guys like us.

I for one would appreciate it.

Great job Dashon! I am truly happy for you. Every success story I hear gives me more courage to take a step forward.

Rock on!

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  • Lender · NY / FL · Member since 2013 · 240 posts · 44 votes
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    @Dashon Jones great execution on this and thanks for the update. Was this a smaller community bank that was willing to refi quicker?

  • Real Estate Investor · Sandy, OR · Member since 2014 · 113 posts · 16 votes
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    Originally posted by @Dashon Jones:

    Let's be honest, the bank takes advantage of us all the time, so why not take advantage of them if the opportunity arises. 

     There you go. I've used that line several times.

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2015 · 102 posts · 33 votes
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    good work Dashon! I use 'creative' financing to do my owner carry deals. I usually buy 40-65,000 houses for cash and carry the note (I do not like landlord BS :). Sometimes I find private investors who let me borrow 20k or so at 8-10%, repay it in 2 years. It motivates me to make money in other areas to pay them off. I have built up a decent portfolio of owner carry homes in OH and TX this way. 

    good luck. This board 'can' be a bit negative at times; I have lurked for a while and I see it often.

  • Real Estate Investor · Rossville, GA · Member since 2014 · 218 posts · 96 votes
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    Originally posted by @Matt Good:
    Originally posted by @Dashon Jones:

    Let's be honest, the bank takes advantage of us all the time, so why not take advantage of them if the opportunity arises. 

     There you go. I've used that line several times.

     I like that.  I tell people there is a reason banks hand out "suckers."  Sometimes they're even called "dum dums"

  • Real Estate Investor · Rossville, GA · Member since 2014 · 218 posts · 96 votes
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    @Dashon Jones, hats off to you for getting started.  That's the hardest part.  So credit cards are risky...what in this business doesn't carry risk.  If you are creative enough to make the credit card deals work then you should have no problem creating some owner finance deals.

  • Rental Property Investor · Beachwood, NJ · Member since 2015 · 132 posts · 50 votes
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    @Dashon Jones What part of NJ are your MFH investments? I definitely want to get into MFH using FHA as my initial investment but trying to find MFH in my part of NJ is rough, Ocean County.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    @Alexander Flores Im in North NJ. Passaic County, so it is all based on location. 

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    @Michael Hicks Thanks, I have considered doing that or private money as a part of my next strategy. I need access to cheaper money.

  • Lender · New York City, NY · Member since 2015 · 104 posts · 26 votes
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    @Dashon Jones, I like the cut of your jib. I love the fact that you went for it and thank you for sharing your story with this community. 

  • Investor · Jasper GA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    I'm was glad to see that you stood firm and did not throw your down payment money away with shyster mentoring.

    Good luck on your next deal.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    @Ben Rutkevitz Thank you for reading. I appreciate it. 

  • Accountant · Essex, MD · Member since 2015 · 34 posts · 2 votes
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    Thanks for sharing @Dashon. I am looking to purchase my first home as multi family property (duplex or triplex). Your story has inspired me just go after it. 

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    Leap and grow your wings on the way down ~Les Brown

    I live by this and taking action has forced me to smarter and financially stronger to play in this real life real estate game. Coming from where I was living with my mom in a low income community, I didn't have much to lose so I figured if I did screw up, the worse that could happen is I lose the house(and be in the same place I started).  I know plenty of successful investors who have loss houses and rebounded. Thats life. You can not be afraid of failing, we have one life to live and I say go after what you want. 

    @Bryan Watson

    With that being said, don't just buy anything to say you have done a deal. Still do your homework and make start decision. Good luck you sir. 

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    ** forced me to grow

    ** decisions  

    ** Good luck to you Sir

    lol, i rushed the response. Sorry

  • Adelanto , CA · Member since 2013 · 15 posts · 0 votes
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    @Dashon Jones

     We all start one way or another. Congrats on the Refi!!

  • Fort Lauderdale, FL · Member since 2015 · 3 posts · 3 votes
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    Great job Dashon. What was great, was you making a plan, and then taking positive action over a period of time. That took a lot of determination, fortitude and discipline. Those are some of the great attributes that successful people are made of, and I am proud of you, as I am sure a lot of other people are also.

    There are always many different path to success, some more or less risky than others. REI is a dynamic and renewable resource where multiple strategies and tactics can bring success and financial rewards. Your strategy, whilst a bit risky, was creative and you deserve commendation for taking action. Maybe if you had gone the safer route and bought that expensive course, you probable still would have been on the sideline. So, kudos to you for taking action and jumping in.

    Nonetheless, despite the abrupt initial response from Brian, he has provided some solid information on widening our REI knowledge base. So, I would recommend taking up some of his knowledge references. REI is constantly changing and evolving and staying abreast of information and learning tools is just as important as taking action.

    Anyway, keep up the good job and keeping on doing!

  • Calumet City, IL · Member since 2014 · 312 posts · 49 votes
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    @Dashon Jones

    Your story is highly motivating. I did the same things a year with a 0% CC offer when I had to evict tenants and fix up the unit they tore apart.

    http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/432/topics/133474-my-unit-is-finally-ready

    No I am looking into purchasing my second property with the same type of 0% CC offer. Even after servicing the debt on the CC offer it would still cash flow.

  • New to Real Estate · Tucson, AZ · Member since 2014 · 12 posts · 6 votes
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    Congratulations, that is an amazing achievement! 

    My question is how you were able to get the credit increase from $5k to $35k? I can see that alone being a major benefit from the Credit Utilization Ratio standpoint. 

    I wish you continued success!

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    @Peter Green Thank you. You are absolutely correct. What I can say I have done from taking the risky route and risking my own financial future, I have proved that I have confidence in myself and I am not looking for any hand out. With a track record (even a lil one) obtaining safer options of money is now easier. As you said there are many different routes, this is just one amongst many.  

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    @Michael S. Honestly, some times all you have to do is ask. I said I wanted to have some one review my file while I was on the phone and I was manually approved after being denied the automation route. 

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    @Jarrett Harris Exactly how I saw it. You can even pay a small fee and roll that debt into another 0% interest balance transfer. 

  • Rental Property Investor · East Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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    Thank you for sharing your inspiring story, @Dashon Jones.  I, too, used credit card checks to fund my deals early on.  I was rolling along with a $17k balance at 0% for another 10 months (so I thought) and boom - I was 'penalty priced' out of nowhere.  I called to ask what was up, and they said they pulled my credit randomly and my revolving debt borrowed vs credit lines available was too high.  I had never missed a payment and was all the sudden being charged 27.9%. The interest alone was over $600/mo! There is a lot of fine print on these things.  Utilize with extreme caution!  Today I haven't had a credit card balance anywhere in over 30 months and love the serenity! 

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