It has been 8 months since I left my job and.....

It has been 8 months since I left my job and.....

Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes

.... it has been CRAZY!

When I recorded my podcast, I had just quit my job and started my journey as a full-time investor.

The one question I get asked most about the podcast is how we were able to grow so fast. We did not get a chance to really talk about it on the podcast so I wanted to address it here. We bought a duplex in an “A” neighborhood from an estate sale for property number three, which is now our personal residence. The house had not been touched since the 1970’s, so we did an extensive rehab on it and pulled out over six figures of equity. We used that equity as the down payment for the next set of properties in a cheaper, better cash flow market.

What I thought my life would be like: I thought I would have a ton of free time to finally focus on myself. I would be able to wake up after 6 a.m., go to the gym, and cook elaborate meals. I would be the person that is never rushed and just sits at a cafe midday reading books.

What my life is actually like: Now I sleep in until 7 am, still haven’t made it to the gym but that is on my to-do list. I work more hours than ever before but it does not feel like work, because I actually enjoy it. I do enjoy running errands and getting groceries at 2 p.m. on a Wednesday… that is a luxury I don’t think I can ever trade!

What has happened since July: We closed on the 19 units in Milwaukee the day before my podcast aired. I had cleared my schedule to handle the transition, but it was very easy because we kept the previous property manager, so the day to day operations were the same. We did not know that when you buy property in Milwaukee a code inspector comes out and issues you violations, which must be fixed in 90 days. We got hit badly with one property, about $10k in violations. Luckily the easy/preforming properties covered the cost of the non-preforming ones, and my PM handled everything. It took me about a month to realize I am just not one of those relaxing people and I was bored out of my mind, so…

I decided to start my own brokerage business! I have been licensed in Illinois since 2004 but had not taken on clients in almost 10 years. A member at our meet-up group asked me if I could help him and his fiancée buy their first investment property and so it started. I enjoy this business but it is so surreal for me. I am going through things with them that I went through with my first property and I really forgot how emotional and frustrating it is! IL is reciprocal with WI so I decided to open my own brokerage company there too, though I do not take on clients in Wisconsin. The Chicago real estate starts to slow down in winter so…

I decided to buy again in Milwaukee! We had sold three of the buildings there because I got an offer I couldn’t refuse. We had some money but not enough to do much, so I convinced my brother to put a lien on his free and clear house for me as a personal loan.  On December 1 we bought 13 more units. Four units were vacant and we had two vacancies from the July properties, so six vacancies in DECEMBER and my PM was on vacation the last two weeks of the month. He and I were showing apartments left and right and had five filled before he left. It was a crazy few weeks but we handled it very well and things went back to a steady pace. We had 25 units in six months and the bank said they would need to review our tax returns before deciding what we could do next so…

I started a website business with Jay Hinrichs! He approached me with an idea in late December and I thought it was fantastic. I found someone to build the framework of the site and even learned some coding so I can make my own site changes. We officially launched a few weeks ago and are working on building site traffic and adding new features. Our vision is to be a place where turnkey (TK) buyers can read real experiences from other TK buyers. The feedback so far has been very positive. It has been very exciting to see it grow and develop. As we were finishing up the site the bank gave us the green light so…

We bought another 15 units on Friday! These properties are almost all occupied, which will hopefully lead to a smooth transition. It has been crazy and will continue to be crazy for a while. Our strategy is to “get by” for the next few months, focusing on getting all units tenanted and taking care of all the code violations. Then when things settle down we have some units that need rent increases so we are going to spend the summer working on a few each month. We will raise rents and deal with the turnover we might experience but at least it will be in prime rental season and it will add almost $17k per year in rent. 

That is 40 units and over $1.2 million of property in eight months!

What is next:

  • We are taking our first week long vacation in almost 2.5 years! It is desperately needed! We are going to Mexico for a week in April and then Europe for 2 weeks in May.
  • We are doing one more buy of about 10 units, so we can “retire” and our goal is to close sometime in April. I know I will probably never “retire” but we will be in a place where my husband and I can live off rental income. This which gives us the ability to spend our time doing what we love, regardless of if it produces income.
  • I am doing my first JV buy and hold deal. I have a California investor coming in this month to see our operations, meet my team, and to look at properties. Essentially I will buy for him just like I buy for myself and will manage the properties like I manage my own (with my PM). We have been talking for months and I feel we will make a good partnership.
  • The website will be a main focus, as we will continue to market it and build site traffic. We really feel this is needed in the marketplace and will benefit turn key buyers both in the US and Internationally. My husband has shown interest in the website so when he leaves his job I think he will help me out with the backend stuff and day to day.
  • We really want to plan a “around the world” trip! I have already mapped it out to do 25 cities in 25 weeks from Portugal to China leaving in October. But before we can commit to a trip like that we need to make sure the business are running smoothly before we decide to book the trip. At this point I don’t think we will be able to leave for six months but we are at least going to do a four to six week trip in winter.

Every time things seem to slow down I get myself involved in something else, it’s bad. On Valentine’s Day I sat down with my husband to watch a full hour TV show without working for the first time since New Year’s Day! I am making an effort to give myself “work hours” and to unplug more. I am such a “Type A” person and had a normal routine when I was working corporate jobs; now everything is up in the air all of the time so I have been trying to schedule my time for each of the businesses and stick to it.

If you would have told me what I would be doing now I would have laughed in your face. A year ago we had eight units, now we have 48. A year ago quitting my job was not an option, now I could never imagine working a corporate job. Almost none of this was planned, it just happened because I had to the passion and drive to make it happen. It has been the craziest eight months of my life and I am excited to see where the rest of this year brings!

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Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Brie:

Congratulations on the change thus far ... I do not think I could ever trade working for myself ... not willingly.

Europe in May for me always translates into the Giro d'Italia ... my favourite stage race.

Enjoy a well earned vacation and then return to busy fun.

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  • Real Estate Investor · Bolingbrook, IL · Member since 2014 · 15 posts · 0 votes
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    When is the next BP meeting?

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    @Randell Campbell - It is always on the third Tuesday

  • Glendale, CA · Member since 2014 · 1 post · 0 votes
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    Great article! Thanks for sharing. Good luck on your future endeavors.

  • Real Estate Investor · Fenton, MI · Member since 2008 · 946 posts · 153 votes
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    Originally posted by @Brie Schmidt:

    That is 40 units and over $1.2 million of property in eight months!

    There are a lot of posts here, so I apologize if you already answered this.  Did you finance these properties?  How much did you have to put down?  I would appreciate ANY financing details you can give.  You can certainly be proud of the work you did!  That is an impressive portfolio!

  • Real Estate Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 229 posts · 171 votes
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    I had a similar start to you.  Bought a personal that went up in value (in an upward market, so no rehab) and refinanced six figures to spring into other projects.  It led to a high metabolism of buy and sell deals.

    Unfortunately, I continued high-leverage and was exposed when the prices fell quickly.  In my second run at this, I am using almost no leverage and keeping my number of units down.

    Keep up the great work!

  • Real Estate Investor · Fenton, MI · Member since 2008 · 946 posts · 153 votes
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    Originally posted by @Brie Schmidt:

    @Curt Smith The first 3 properties were residential financing with conventional loans, the rest are standard commercial financing.  Nothing really special to write about except that I went to a bank and applied for a loan.  I tried to detail as much as possible on my blog.

    I am just learning how commercial financing works.  Were the first three four-plexs or less?  I would like to know details of the standard commercial financing.  What do they look for?  What is required?  Where did you go for the best rate?  Was it difficult to obtain? 

  • Lathrup Village, MI · Member since 2012 · 5 posts · 0 votes
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    Way to go .... Congrats and keep moving. Just another example what can happened when one embrace change.... Change has never been the enemy. Now the sky is the limit. Lot's more success to you guys.

  • Flipper / Rehabber / Real Estate Investor · Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2012 · 392 posts · 77 votes
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    Congrats @Brie Schmidt !  Thanks for sharing - stories like this help all of us BPers trudging in the trenches - it just goes to show what some sacrifice and (lots of) hard work can bring!  Enjoy the well deserved break.  I may be coming back to Chicago in a few months - hopefully we can meet up again.  My brush with fame!  lol

    PS - Finally closing on my first rental next week!  Although this will be my 11th property purchase in Chicago, it's my first buy and hold.  I'm really excited to start working on cash flow properties....  to start funding my own world travels.  :)

  • Real Estate Consultant · Chicago, IL · Member since 2014 · 720 posts · 439 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt , this is so inspirational!! You are one of the greatest success stories I know of. :) 

    I used to fight with myself all the time if I should quit selling RE, however I realized that I love selling Real Estate as much as I love investing, as I can help people create their own success stories! 

    Looking forward seeing you next month!

  • Investor · Odenton, MD · Member since 2012 · 105 posts · 9 votes
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    Thanks for the information Brie.  I never thought of going commercial loans for standard properties.  I guess that would open the door to being able to buy more.  Hmmm.  I'll have to start contacting some of them.  See what their terms are.  

  • Investor · Wisconsin Rapids, WI · Member since 2015 · 7 posts · 0 votes
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    Congrats!!! One day i will take my family to that level:) very inspiring.

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    @Nancy Lafuente Thanks!

    @Mark Forest Oh yea we financed.  We established a relationship with a commercial bank that let us do 20% down.  We spent over $200k which came from a 6 figure equity gain from another property and a personal loan from my brother

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    @Dooreuhn Cee I am aware of the risks of over leverage.  My rule is I will leverage up to 70% of the entire portfolio to buy more but if it goes higher I will stop.  

    @Mark Forest The first 3 are 2-3 units. For the commercial loan we did struggle finding a bank. Our two main problems were that we were out of state, and the cost per property was between $45k and $95k so the loan size was below $50k on some. I ended up calling a bunch of banks with no success and then I found a broker who said he could get me a loan at a fair rate (5%) but I needed to pay him 2 points. So I did. We paid him 2 points on the first deal and have continued to work with the bank ever since. They require the building to be at a 8 cap with a 1.2 DSCR

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    @Linval Stewart - Thank You!

    @Larry Smet -  You better call me when you are in town again!  Congrats on the rental, let me know if I can help at all.

    @Lumi Ispas - Thanks!  

    @scott p - The bank makes us buy multiple buildings at once (which is not fun for me coordinating 5 closings in 1 day from 5 sellers) so that the total deal is large enough

    @Fiacre O. Brissi - Thanks!

  • Investor · Next investment market TBD. · Member since 2015 · 13 posts · 4 votes
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    Congrats!  My last day in the corporate world is April 1, so it's great to read stories on Bigger Pockets about those who have made the transition successfully.  

  • Investor · Aurora, IL · Member since 2012 · 38 posts · 4 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt 

    Congratulations on your success!

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    @Edward Sitver - Congratulations!  That is awesome!

    @Jose Perez Thank you!

  • Willmar, MN · Member since 2014 · 1 post · 0 votes
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    That is great Brie! Do you mind sharing who your PM is? I would be especially interested if they manage rentals a little north of Milwaukee as well.

  • Real Estate Investor · Waukegan, IL · Member since 2013 · 367 posts · 80 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt You know you're my idol right?  Awesome-sauce!

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    @Dave Westin - My PM is in house, so he only works for me.  We chose this route to have more control over the situation.

    @Arthur Banks - Thanks!  Hope to see you again soon

  • Investor · Odenton, MD · Member since 2012 · 105 posts · 9 votes
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    So how much on average did you put down on each house and what is your average cash flow for each?  I am just trying to find a good model for me to follow as I'll have to do the commercial lender route very soon.  I'm trying to acquire a minimum of $2000 cash flow.  Then I think I could retire.  Like, a good scenario I could think of is putting $35,000 on 4 houses that cash flow $500 each.  If that's possible.

  • Investor · Suwanee, GA · Member since 2014 · 579 posts · 347 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt 

    It's great reading about your journey and hearing your podcast. You're definitely an inspiration and seem to always be on the go!

    Curious - How do you feel about future Cap Ex expenditures that @Ben Leybovich mentioned in his recent blog post? Do you think his numbers seem accurate to your location?

    Also, during your world tour, if you happen to make it to Korea (I saw China mentioned, so maybe there's hope!), we'd love to have you as a guest at the Seoul Real Estate Meetup! I posted about our group on BP not too long ago ^^ (link).

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    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    So how much on average did you put down on each house and what is your average cash flow for each?  I am just trying to find a good model for me to follow as I'll have to do the commercial lender route very soon.  I'm trying to acquire a minimum of $2000 cash flow.  Then I think I could retire.  Like, a good scenario I could think of is putting $35,000 on 4 houses that cash flow $500 each.  If that's possible.

     I don't know your market so it is kinda impossible to answer this question.  

  • Specialist · Portland, OR · Member since 2010 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Brie Schmidt what do you attribute the low prices to? In my area $1525 costs 200-300k.

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    @Daniel Ryu - I did see the article....While I don't buy $30k houses and my rents are all over $1000 it does make sense.  If I look back at the Schedule E or P&L I got from all the sellers and add it up... it comes out to just under $20k spent in repair/vacancy.  I assume those same properties will have over $60k a year in vacancy and repair.  (I am very conservative) 

    I take a "salary" each month, and at the end of the year we take the leftover and prioritize repairs and the replacement of this that are near the end of their useful life.  

    Seoul is on our list!  I will let you know if we are going to be able to pull it off this year or not

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