It has been 8 months since I left my job and.....

It has been 8 months since I left my job and.....

Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes

.... it has been CRAZY!

When I recorded my podcast, I had just quit my job and started my journey as a full-time investor.

The one question I get asked most about the podcast is how we were able to grow so fast. We did not get a chance to really talk about it on the podcast so I wanted to address it here. We bought a duplex in an “A” neighborhood from an estate sale for property number three, which is now our personal residence. The house had not been touched since the 1970’s, so we did an extensive rehab on it and pulled out over six figures of equity. We used that equity as the down payment for the next set of properties in a cheaper, better cash flow market.

What I thought my life would be like: I thought I would have a ton of free time to finally focus on myself. I would be able to wake up after 6 a.m., go to the gym, and cook elaborate meals. I would be the person that is never rushed and just sits at a cafe midday reading books.

What my life is actually like: Now I sleep in until 7 am, still haven’t made it to the gym but that is on my to-do list. I work more hours than ever before but it does not feel like work, because I actually enjoy it. I do enjoy running errands and getting groceries at 2 p.m. on a Wednesday… that is a luxury I don’t think I can ever trade!

What has happened since July: We closed on the 19 units in Milwaukee the day before my podcast aired. I had cleared my schedule to handle the transition, but it was very easy because we kept the previous property manager, so the day to day operations were the same. We did not know that when you buy property in Milwaukee a code inspector comes out and issues you violations, which must be fixed in 90 days. We got hit badly with one property, about $10k in violations. Luckily the easy/preforming properties covered the cost of the non-preforming ones, and my PM handled everything. It took me about a month to realize I am just not one of those relaxing people and I was bored out of my mind, so…

I decided to start my own brokerage business! I have been licensed in Illinois since 2004 but had not taken on clients in almost 10 years. A member at our meet-up group asked me if I could help him and his fiancée buy their first investment property and so it started. I enjoy this business but it is so surreal for me. I am going through things with them that I went through with my first property and I really forgot how emotional and frustrating it is! IL is reciprocal with WI so I decided to open my own brokerage company there too, though I do not take on clients in Wisconsin. The Chicago real estate starts to slow down in winter so…

I decided to buy again in Milwaukee! We had sold three of the buildings there because I got an offer I couldn’t refuse. We had some money but not enough to do much, so I convinced my brother to put a lien on his free and clear house for me as a personal loan.  On December 1 we bought 13 more units. Four units were vacant and we had two vacancies from the July properties, so six vacancies in DECEMBER and my PM was on vacation the last two weeks of the month. He and I were showing apartments left and right and had five filled before he left. It was a crazy few weeks but we handled it very well and things went back to a steady pace. We had 25 units in six months and the bank said they would need to review our tax returns before deciding what we could do next so…

I started a website business with Jay Hinrichs! He approached me with an idea in late December and I thought it was fantastic. I found someone to build the framework of the site and even learned some coding so I can make my own site changes. We officially launched a few weeks ago and are working on building site traffic and adding new features. Our vision is to be a place where turnkey (TK) buyers can read real experiences from other TK buyers. The feedback so far has been very positive. It has been very exciting to see it grow and develop. As we were finishing up the site the bank gave us the green light so…

We bought another 15 units on Friday! These properties are almost all occupied, which will hopefully lead to a smooth transition. It has been crazy and will continue to be crazy for a while. Our strategy is to “get by” for the next few months, focusing on getting all units tenanted and taking care of all the code violations. Then when things settle down we have some units that need rent increases so we are going to spend the summer working on a few each month. We will raise rents and deal with the turnover we might experience but at least it will be in prime rental season and it will add almost $17k per year in rent. 

That is 40 units and over $1.2 million of property in eight months!

What is next:

  • We are taking our first week long vacation in almost 2.5 years! It is desperately needed! We are going to Mexico for a week in April and then Europe for 2 weeks in May.
  • We are doing one more buy of about 10 units, so we can “retire” and our goal is to close sometime in April. I know I will probably never “retire” but we will be in a place where my husband and I can live off rental income. This which gives us the ability to spend our time doing what we love, regardless of if it produces income.
  • I am doing my first JV buy and hold deal. I have a California investor coming in this month to see our operations, meet my team, and to look at properties. Essentially I will buy for him just like I buy for myself and will manage the properties like I manage my own (with my PM). We have been talking for months and I feel we will make a good partnership.
  • The website will be a main focus, as we will continue to market it and build site traffic. We really feel this is needed in the marketplace and will benefit turn key buyers both in the US and Internationally. My husband has shown interest in the website so when he leaves his job I think he will help me out with the backend stuff and day to day.
  • We really want to plan a “around the world” trip! I have already mapped it out to do 25 cities in 25 weeks from Portugal to China leaving in October. But before we can commit to a trip like that we need to make sure the business are running smoothly before we decide to book the trip. At this point I don’t think we will be able to leave for six months but we are at least going to do a four to six week trip in winter.

Every time things seem to slow down I get myself involved in something else, it’s bad. On Valentine’s Day I sat down with my husband to watch a full hour TV show without working for the first time since New Year’s Day! I am making an effort to give myself “work hours” and to unplug more. I am such a “Type A” person and had a normal routine when I was working corporate jobs; now everything is up in the air all of the time so I have been trying to schedule my time for each of the businesses and stick to it.

If you would have told me what I would be doing now I would have laughed in your face. A year ago we had eight units, now we have 48. A year ago quitting my job was not an option, now I could never imagine working a corporate job. Almost none of this was planned, it just happened because I had to the passion and drive to make it happen. It has been the craziest eight months of my life and I am excited to see where the rest of this year brings!

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Roy N.Pro Member
Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Brie:

Congratulations on the change thus far ... I do not think I could ever trade working for myself ... not willingly.

Europe in May for me always translates into the Giro d'Italia ... my favourite stage race.

Enjoy a well earned vacation and then return to busy fun.

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  • Greenville, SC · Member since 2014 · 12 posts · 0 votes
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    great job Brie

  • Park City, UT · Member since 2014 · 45 posts · 18 votes
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    Wow, I only read the very beginning of the thread, but sounds like you are off and running! Your website sounds awesome, and I am checking it out now, as I think I might go turnkey for my first few properties, as rehab still sounds a little intimidating to me right now. 

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    @Brie Schmidt, thanks for the post.  I have been wanting to see how things turned out for you after you quit your day job.  It is a hard thing to consider being without a job when you have worked all of your life.  For what ever reason, back in 2012 I decided it was time to get more serious about real estate.  In short I bought all the members out of the investment company I was in and was left with about 9 houses and a small apartment building.  The debt load increased a good bit so cash flow went down a lot.  We usually lost a little money every year so I had a lot to do to keep afloat.  The next year I bought 2 houses but resold one. (For a nice profit)  In  2014 I went crazy and added 7 units, but one will be resold for a small profit to my handyman and friend, when he gets around to financing it.  I was amazed at what I did but you totally knocked it out of the ball park.  You have inspired me to write an article on what I did.  I love what you accomplished so quickly but so well.  I have followed your posts and you narrowly avoided several very bad landmines by due diligence and hard work.  When someone I read about a lot does well on BP it's almost like a family member doing well.  Thanks for taking the time to share and in doing so uplift and encourage all of us.  Sometimes we don't do things because we have never taken the time to dream of what we want.  You have helped us all dream a bigger and nicer dream.  If you ever find yourself in the outbacks of Wyoming please look me up.  I will buy the coffee and pie.

  • Investor · Odenton, MD · Member since 2012 · 105 posts · 9 votes
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    Sounds like a wild ride Brie.  Congrats!  I'd like to hear, at some point, what your model is.  Like, what is your cash flow from each on average, what type of areas you bought in, and how did you finance?  I own 10 properties now, 9 rentals, and am almost 56 years old.  I really want to retire, or be able to, but am not really close to it.  I have 9 mortgages and the finance company will only do one more.  So I am thinking of buying a multi or something that will bring $2000 cash flow.  I think that would do it for me.  Also, I've never bought in lower rated areas as I'm afraid of dealing with difficult tenants.  Where I've bought are pretty decent areas but they come at a price, $$.  Anyhow, I'll have to listen to your podcast sometime.  Scott

  • Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 14 posts · 5 votes
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    Thank you @Brie Schmidt for sharing your story it's stuff like this that drive my inspiration spirit to one day have financial freedom even though I'm still very young. Even though I haven't made any purchase in real estate yet I'll be sure to read this when I get doubts from 8 to 48 is a huge step wish you nothing but the best moving forward

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    @Ndy Onyido - Yea, check it out!

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    Originally posted by @Jerry W.:

    @Brie Schmidt, thanks for the post.  I have been wanting to see how things turned out for you after you quit your day job.  It is a hard thing to consider being without a job when you have worked all of your life.  For what ever reason, back in 2012 I decided it was time to get more serious about real estate.  In short I bought all the members out of the investment company I was in and was left with about 9 houses and a small apartment building.  The debt load increased a good bit so cash flow went down a lot.  We usually lost a little money every year so I had a lot to do to keep afloat.  The next year I bought 2 houses but resold one. (For a nice profit)  In  2014 I went crazy and added 7 units, but one will be resold for a small profit to my handyman and friend, when he gets around to financing it.  I was amazed at what I did but you totally knocked it out of the ball park.  You have inspired me to write an article on what I did.  I love what you accomplished so quickly but so well.  I have followed your posts and you narrowly avoided several very bad landmines by due diligence and hard work.  When someone I read about a lot does well on BP it's almost like a family member doing well.  Thanks for taking the time to share and in doing so uplift and encourage all of us.  Sometimes we don't do things because we have never taken the time to dream of what we want.  You have helped us all dream a bigger and nicer dream.  If you ever find yourself in the outbacks of Wyoming please look me up.  I will buy the coffee and pie.

     Jerry - Thanks for the kind words.  I remember you were one of the first ones to support me when I quit my job.  You are right, it is like a family, and it is crazy how many good, lifelong, friends I have made here, even if e never meet.

    I look forward to readying your post and I will definitely look you up if I am every in Wyoming!

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    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    Sounds like a wild ride Brie.  Congrats!  I'd like to hear, at some point, what your model is.  Like, what is your cash flow from each on average, what type of areas you bought in, and how did you finance?  I own 10 properties now, 9 rentals, and am almost 56 years old.  I really want to retire, or be able to, but am not really close to it.  I have 9 mortgages and the finance company will only do one more.  So I am thinking of buying a multi or something that will bring $2000 cash flow.  I think that would do it for me.  Also, I've never bought in lower rated areas as I'm afraid of dealing with difficult tenants.  Where I've bought are pretty decent areas but they come at a price, $$.  Anyhow, I'll have to listen to your podcast sometime.  Scott

     It was really the move to a commercial lender that helped us blow up.  All these properties are with my commercial lender and it has been the easiest process for us.  I met with them about a year ago, did all the pre-approval stuff and showed them the types of numbers that I was looking at.  They looked everything over, showed me how they analyze deals, and said "if it is above these metrics and you have the down payment you can buy it" and that was that.  

    I know my podcast was focused on my high end rentals, which I still have and self manage... but these properties are a different strategy.  We choose an area that is I pretty solid B in my opinion.  It is a working class neighborhood, people have enough money, but not a lot.  While we do accept section 8 none of our tenants are on it (we did have one before but they moved)  A lot of tenants do not have checking accounts and pay in cash, we do have late payments or partial payments every month and my PM needs to chase them around.  But the tenants are nice, clean, respectable people.  We don't have issues with places being trashed when they move, I have no problem advertising the address of a vacant property because I don't fear copper being stolen... ect  

  • Oak Park, IL · Member since 2014 · 285 posts · 114 votes
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    Great job Brie.  And thanks for sharing info many times.  

  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    @Christopher Davis -  Thanks!  We started setting up our team in Jan 2014 and bought our first properties in July 2014 and tested out our systems and processes.  The next purchase was in December 2014 and then again in February 2015 so our last 90 days growth has been crazy... but the foundation of it all has been there and been tested so we are much more comfortable rowing at this rate now that we have proof of concept.  

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    @Atul Mohlajee - Thanks!  Been awhile since I have seen you at the Chicago meetups!

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · Riverside, CA · Member since 2014 · 82 posts · 121 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt, fantastic story. I love it. Taking action is the only guarantee to making a success of your passion. I love the fact that this does not seem like work to you because its your passion. I often tell people that , to me,  "work is fun and fun is work."  When you work at what you love, its like having fun all day. Keep it up. Have more fun, because it will give you more wealth. 

  • Mooringsport, LA · Member since 2014 · 25 posts · 31 votes
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    Congrats  Brie, I hope to be in your shoes in a couple years! I recently returned from a 25 day trip around Europe so i will list a few gems that some people over look. Taormina Sicely is stunning, Korcula Croatia is rich is history and friendly people and the mosque at Cordoba Spain is breathtaking.

  • Investor · Louisville, KY · Member since 2011 · 296 posts · 248 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt - wow, congratulations!

    Could you talk a bit about the financials on the duplexes you're buying?   E.g. Price paid, amt of Reno needed, amt financed (80%?) and rents?   I love that sort of nitty gritty detail as it gives me something to think about when contemplating my own deals. 

    Best,

     - Chuck

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    @Toyin Dawodu Thanks!  It really has been a total life change doing what you love and not feeling like you are working

    @Alvin Taylor - Thanks!  We will be doing Dublin, London, Paris, and Stockholm 

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    Originally posted by @Chuck B.:

    @Brie Schmidt - wow, congratulations!

    Could you talk a bit about the financials on the duplexes you're buying?   E.g. Price paid, amt of Reno needed, amt financed (80%?) and rents?   I love that sort of nitty gritty detail as it gives me something to think about when contemplating my own deals. 

    Best,

     - Chuck

     There is not really a set price... I would pay $500k for a duplex if the numbers worked.  Our cheapest property was $35k and our most expensive was $85k.  I tend to buy already tenanted with little work needed.  Rents vary by bedroom, size, and location so our smallest building brings in $1050 a month and the largest $2575.  I have a property comparison excel I use since I don't look at a specific price range or building size.  

  • Kim VandermarkPro Member
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    @Brie Schmidt Wow! Thanks for sharing this information! You are my inspiration! 

  • Chula Vista, CA · Member since 2015 · 90 posts · 25 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt  I read your post and 1st & last pages of replies.  I will read the middle soon.  Still absorbing all that I read while moving towards my first deal.  Thank you for helping through your sharing.

  • Investor · Arlington Heights, IL · Member since 2014 · 135 posts · 34 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt That's an amazing story. Congratulations on all your success, and I wish you much more of it in the near future. :)

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    @Kim Vandermark Thanks!

    @Don Johnston Thanks!

    @Roman Pak Thanks!

  • Denver, CO · Member since 2012 · 39 posts · 20 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt 

     Great job and big congrats on your efforts and momentum!! 

    Can you offer up any ideas about your top educational sources(books, blogs, etc.)?

    Also, which Chicago meetup do you attend, would love to meetup?

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    @Ebe Chinweze -  Well I never read a real estate book till I found BP - and the vast majority of my education has come from here.

    Our group meets the third Tuesday of the month, I have not posted for March but here is the Feb one - same place and same time

    http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/521/topics/174...

  • Involved In Real Estate · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 20 posts · 2 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt 

    All I can say is WOW!! What a great story and how inspiring! Continued success to you and your family. I want to be you when I grow up! Lol!

    Kim

  • Lender · Nat'l Commercial Mtg Lender - Round Rock, TX · Member since 2014 · 916 posts · 235 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt 
    I enjoyed your write up.  Thank you for sharing your story.  You are an inspiration to all BP investors.  

    Wishing you the Best

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