It has been 8 months since I left my job and.....

It has been 8 months since I left my job and.....

Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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Real Estate Broker · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes

.... it has been CRAZY!

When I recorded my podcast, I had just quit my job and started my journey as a full-time investor.

The one question I get asked most about the podcast is how we were able to grow so fast. We did not get a chance to really talk about it on the podcast so I wanted to address it here. We bought a duplex in an “A” neighborhood from an estate sale for property number three, which is now our personal residence. The house had not been touched since the 1970’s, so we did an extensive rehab on it and pulled out over six figures of equity. We used that equity as the down payment for the next set of properties in a cheaper, better cash flow market.

What I thought my life would be like: I thought I would have a ton of free time to finally focus on myself. I would be able to wake up after 6 a.m., go to the gym, and cook elaborate meals. I would be the person that is never rushed and just sits at a cafe midday reading books.

What my life is actually like: Now I sleep in until 7 am, still haven’t made it to the gym but that is on my to-do list. I work more hours than ever before but it does not feel like work, because I actually enjoy it. I do enjoy running errands and getting groceries at 2 p.m. on a Wednesday… that is a luxury I don’t think I can ever trade!

What has happened since July: We closed on the 19 units in Milwaukee the day before my podcast aired. I had cleared my schedule to handle the transition, but it was very easy because we kept the previous property manager, so the day to day operations were the same. We did not know that when you buy property in Milwaukee a code inspector comes out and issues you violations, which must be fixed in 90 days. We got hit badly with one property, about $10k in violations. Luckily the easy/preforming properties covered the cost of the non-preforming ones, and my PM handled everything. It took me about a month to realize I am just not one of those relaxing people and I was bored out of my mind, so…

I decided to start my own brokerage business! I have been licensed in Illinois since 2004 but had not taken on clients in almost 10 years. A member at our meet-up group asked me if I could help him and his fiancée buy their first investment property and so it started. I enjoy this business but it is so surreal for me. I am going through things with them that I went through with my first property and I really forgot how emotional and frustrating it is! IL is reciprocal with WI so I decided to open my own brokerage company there too, though I do not take on clients in Wisconsin. The Chicago real estate starts to slow down in winter so…

I decided to buy again in Milwaukee! We had sold three of the buildings there because I got an offer I couldn’t refuse. We had some money but not enough to do much, so I convinced my brother to put a lien on his free and clear house for me as a personal loan.  On December 1 we bought 13 more units. Four units were vacant and we had two vacancies from the July properties, so six vacancies in DECEMBER and my PM was on vacation the last two weeks of the month. He and I were showing apartments left and right and had five filled before he left. It was a crazy few weeks but we handled it very well and things went back to a steady pace. We had 25 units in six months and the bank said they would need to review our tax returns before deciding what we could do next so…

I started a website business with Jay Hinrichs! He approached me with an idea in late December and I thought it was fantastic. I found someone to build the framework of the site and even learned some coding so I can make my own site changes. We officially launched a few weeks ago and are working on building site traffic and adding new features. Our vision is to be a place where turnkey (TK) buyers can read real experiences from other TK buyers. The feedback so far has been very positive. It has been very exciting to see it grow and develop. As we were finishing up the site the bank gave us the green light so…

We bought another 15 units on Friday! These properties are almost all occupied, which will hopefully lead to a smooth transition. It has been crazy and will continue to be crazy for a while. Our strategy is to “get by” for the next few months, focusing on getting all units tenanted and taking care of all the code violations. Then when things settle down we have some units that need rent increases so we are going to spend the summer working on a few each month. We will raise rents and deal with the turnover we might experience but at least it will be in prime rental season and it will add almost $17k per year in rent. 

That is 40 units and over $1.2 million of property in eight months!

What is next:

  • We are taking our first week long vacation in almost 2.5 years! It is desperately needed! We are going to Mexico for a week in April and then Europe for 2 weeks in May.
  • We are doing one more buy of about 10 units, so we can “retire” and our goal is to close sometime in April. I know I will probably never “retire” but we will be in a place where my husband and I can live off rental income. This which gives us the ability to spend our time doing what we love, regardless of if it produces income.
  • I am doing my first JV buy and hold deal. I have a California investor coming in this month to see our operations, meet my team, and to look at properties. Essentially I will buy for him just like I buy for myself and will manage the properties like I manage my own (with my PM). We have been talking for months and I feel we will make a good partnership.
  • The website will be a main focus, as we will continue to market it and build site traffic. We really feel this is needed in the marketplace and will benefit turn key buyers both in the US and Internationally. My husband has shown interest in the website so when he leaves his job I think he will help me out with the backend stuff and day to day.
  • We really want to plan a “around the world” trip! I have already mapped it out to do 25 cities in 25 weeks from Portugal to China leaving in October. But before we can commit to a trip like that we need to make sure the business are running smoothly before we decide to book the trip. At this point I don’t think we will be able to leave for six months but we are at least going to do a four to six week trip in winter.

Every time things seem to slow down I get myself involved in something else, it’s bad. On Valentine’s Day I sat down with my husband to watch a full hour TV show without working for the first time since New Year’s Day! I am making an effort to give myself “work hours” and to unplug more. I am such a “Type A” person and had a normal routine when I was working corporate jobs; now everything is up in the air all of the time so I have been trying to schedule my time for each of the businesses and stick to it.

If you would have told me what I would be doing now I would have laughed in your face. A year ago we had eight units, now we have 48. A year ago quitting my job was not an option, now I could never imagine working a corporate job. Almost none of this was planned, it just happened because I had to the passion and drive to make it happen. It has been the craziest eight months of my life and I am excited to see where the rest of this year brings!

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Rental Property Investor · Fredericton, New Brunswick · Member since 2013 · 7k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Brie:

Congratulations on the change thus far ... I do not think I could ever trade working for myself ... not willingly.

Europe in May for me always translates into the Giro d'Italia ... my favourite stage race.

Enjoy a well earned vacation and then return to busy fun.

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  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    Sean (sorry, I can't tag you) and @Ben Leybovich that is a very good question!  I was actually going to start a new thread about long terms options and I would love your opinion on it.  But before I do that I will answer your question.  

    Our situation with this loan and portfolio is a little weird, because we are mainly buying 2-4 unit residential properties with a commercial loan (not blanket) so we are required to have residential appraisals based on comps, but then the properties must also hit commercial lending requirements (cap and DSCR)

    In 5 years when we have the balloon my concern is not the value (we are sitting at a 55% LTV based on the residential appraisals they did) and we are at a 2.26 DSCR so unless my NOI drops drastically that is not a real concern.... but what does scare me is the interest rate. That I will post on a new thread.

  • Insurance Agent · Carlsbad, CA · Member since 2013 · 37 posts · 3 votes
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    BRAVO! so inspiring to hear of your success! keep up the great work, and dont forget to take some time for yourself and your hubby! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Phoenix/Lima, Arizona/OH · Member since 2012 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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    @Brie Schmidt - go to your bank and negotiate to buy "caps" on interest rate.  This would have been better at the time of origination, but if there's a relationship they may work with you.

    Typically, you can expect to pay 2 points and in return the bank will cap rate adjustment to 2% per adjustment with a life-time max.

    Call me if you have questions about this.

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    Wow, thats just simply amazing. I myself am a beginner investor and I have 6 units over 2 years. After reading your post, I know I can do more sooner if  I just work at it. 

  • Wholesaler · Eau Claire, WI · Member since 2014 · 133 posts · 32 votes
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    Originally posted by @Brie Schmidt:

    Peter (sorry, I can't tag most people with only an initial for their last name) We only do 2+ units.  We have looked at larger buildings but the expenses are so much higher and the rent per unit does not increase.

    @Ericka Parrott and @Curtis York Jr Thanks!

     Hi, Are you saying only duplexes?

    Thanks,

    Kelly

  • Homeowner · Bossier City , LA · Member since 2015 · 31 posts · 6 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt thanks for sharing.  You have a very inspiring and motivating story.  I haven't listened to your podcast yet but I'll be sure to search it out!

  • Realtor · Goodyear, AZ · Member since 2015 · 152 posts · 59 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt Could you please write a blog post about how you manage your time with all of what you've got going on?  I am a "Type A" too and find it difficult to leave what I'm doing to focus on what I need to do (...like make dinner for the family)!  Sounds like you've had an amazing journey!  Your story is inspiring! 

  • Investor · Frankfort, IL · Member since 2015 · 206 posts · 55 votes
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    awesome job @Brie Schmidt and congrats on the continued success!  I look forward to hearing more and learning from your experiences. 

  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    @Randy Abernathy - Thanks!

    @George Alves Jr -  Thanks!

    @Ben Leybovich -  I might take you up on that invitation.  I heard of a new loan program today that I am considering, I started another thread on it

    @Dashon Jones - The beginning is the hardest, but the most crucial.  We bought one building in 201, 2012, and 2013.  By 2014 we had the track record and ability to grow so quickly but would have never been able to if we didn't have the foundation.

    @Kelly A. - No, but we have never owned a SFH. In total we have 12 duplex properties, 3 triplex, a 4 unit and a 5 unit and a 6 unit. I have looked at anything under a 50 unit but the expense per unit was so much higher and the rent per unit did not change.

    @Jabari Brooks - Thanks!

  • Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2014 · 17 posts · 3 votes
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    Wow Great Job!

    What do you think the advantages of investing in multiple singles/duplexes versus larger multis are?

    Thanks,

    Cornelius

  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    Originally posted by @Erin Estes:

    @Brie Schmidt Could you please write a blog post about how you manage your time with all of what you've got going on?  I am a "Type A" too and find it difficult to leave what I'm doing to focus on what I need to do (...like make dinner for the family)!  Sounds like you've had an amazing journey!  Your story is inspiring! 

     I would love to write a blog about it, but I don't think it would help anyone.  This is my number 1 struggle as of right now.  With the investment business I am either home analyzing deals or doing the books, or I am in Milwaukee looking at 25 houses in 2 days and meeting with my PM.  My PM does almost everything else but I still get phone calls on Saturday night about a furnace going out.

    For the brokerage business I could not talk to a client for a month and then a new house comes on the market and we need to go see it asap

    For the website, it was built to run on it's own for the most part but we are in the beginning stages of launching it and getting it off the ground.  There is so much setup involved, especially with the lofty goals we have with it

    So when I think my day is going to be easy, something always comes up.  I keep a to-do list for each business and prioritize them daily... but sometimes I forget to eat, or I don't leave the house for a week....

    So I will write a post when I have figured it out... but right now I haven't.  All I can tell you is every morning I pick the most important things and do them first, and the rest can be completed pending my schedule.  

  • Residential Real Estate Agent · Paterson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 78 posts · 42 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt That comment was big for me because thats exactly why I am trying to remain patient until the snowball effect happens. Its tough just accept that you have to wait when you are hungry and ambitious. Both of my 3 unit properties took 10 months to close which also put a damper on my plans. But I am staying to course and working on another 2 units now. 

    When you have time, if possible I would love for you to read my post on "how I got my first 6 units"  http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/223/topics/173…

    and give me advice on how to scale up. 

    Thanks.

  • Irvine, CA · Member since 2015 · 51 posts · 10 votes
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    Wow! Very inspiring thank you for sharing.

  • Rental Property Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 6 posts · 0 votes
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    Congrats, that's awesome! I look forward to your meetups. 

  • Realtor · Goodyear, AZ · Member since 2015 · 152 posts · 59 votes
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    Originally posted by @Brie Schmidt:
    Originally posted by @Erin Estes:

    @Brie Schmidt Could you please write a blog post about how you manage your time with all of what you've got going on?  I am a "Type A" too and find it difficult to leave what I'm doing to focus on what I need to do (...like make dinner for the family)!  Sounds like you've had an amazing journey!  Your story is inspiring! 

     I would love to write a blog about it, but I don't think it would help anyone.  This is my number 1 struggle as of right now.  With the investment business I am either home analyzing deals or doing the books, or I am in Milwaukee looking at 25 houses in 2 days and meeting with my PM.  My PM does almost everything else but I still get phone calls on Saturday night about a furnace going out.

    For the brokerage business I could not talk to a client for a month and then a new house comes on the market and we need to go see it asap

    For the website, it was built to run on it's own for the most part but we are in the beginning stages of launching it and getting it off the ground.  There is so much setup involved, especially with the lofty goals we have with it

    So when I think my day is going to be easy, something always comes up.  I keep a to-do list for each business and prioritize them daily... but sometimes I forget to eat, or I don't leave the house for a week....

    So I will write a post when I have figured it out... but right now I haven't.  All I can tell you is every morning I pick the most important things and do them first, and the rest can be completed pending my schedule.  

     You have some awesome gems of advice in here even if you don't have your time management protocol all figured out yet!  Have you heard of Asana?  They're a pretty interesting time management tool you may be able to implement.  I use it a little, but am not busy enough to make it worthwhile.  Maybe it could help you out in that regard.  Best of luck to you! Thanks for your post!

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    @Nick Versetto Thanks!

    @Cornelius McClendon we don't necessarily have a preference to the smaller buildings. In the area we invest in about 60% of the housing stock is 2-4 unit properties and we just have not found bigger units that meet the ROI we want.

    @Dashon Jones patience is the hardest.  I have to reel myself in all the time and wait for the right deal.  I will read your post tomorrow and PM you about it

    @Thomas Lorini - Thanks!

    @Richelle Smith - Thanks!  Look forward to meeting you

  • Investor · Frankfort, IL · Member since 2015 · 206 posts · 55 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt thank you for introducing me to Arthur!

  • Specialist · Portland, OR · Member since 2013 · 96 posts · 19 votes
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    Congrats on your success, and thanks for sharing your story! I guess your experience of not being able to stop and relax is what makes you an entrepreneur - you started your own business back when you had a day job because you couldn't stand having nothing to do on your evenings and weekends :)

    The review site was a good idea, there's definitely a need for it.  Can't wait to see where it goes.  I was just running around Lake Oswego with Jay - would've asked him about the site if I'd read your post two hours earlier.

  • Brie SchmidtBusiness Member
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    @Nick Versetto - He is great, I have known him since I was 17 years old and he does all my loans

    @Eric Blanchard yea, I am a go go go type of person.  Now I just need some non-business hobbies.  Thanks for the site feedback!  I am very excited to see it develop

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    Originally posted by @Brie Schmidt:

    @Jonna Weber Yea, when we met in November (at the San Francisco Summit @J. Martin put on) we were a few weeks from closing on the December portfolio.  

    I forgot to mention that I was lucky enough to be invited to speak at that summit and more importantly than that... I got to meet some fantastic people! My JV partner I met at that event and have some other possible partnerships brewing from people I met at that event.

    It took me almost 2 years to acquire a $Million in RE for myself!! Way to crush it Brie :) I'm still amazed how you rolled up so many single families and closed like that so coordinated and quickly. Nice!

    I'm glad you could make it out to share at the (1st annual!) Summit, and to chat when I was last in Chitown. I chose you because you were straight forward, passionate about what you're doing, and most importantly, GETTING SH*T DONE!!! I like investors who are doing it instead of just talking about it, or what they did back in 2012.. And glad you met some people to make money with in the future! That's what the Summit was all about!!

    Don't forget about the little people that helped along the way when you're running the town ;)

    Great post Brie. Congrats to you and @Jay Hinrichs on turnkey-reviews.com ! I like it!
    Adios! Have fun south of the border!

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
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    @Brie Schmidt 

      I don't recall you putting in your vacation request !  Wait a minute that's right you don't need to do that anymore ..  !!!

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2015 · 8 posts · 2 votes
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    Hi Brie, 

    I had just listened to your podcast today and am happy to see it looks to be up up up for you since leavings your job! It was great to learn from you about the Milwaukee RE market. I have family there so I have always thought I may some day invest there. Again thanks for sharing your knowledge and best wishes!

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    @J. Martin - it took me 3 years to do the first million!  Coordinating 5 closings from 5 sellers in one day is not easy, it takes a lot of pre-work but once I get all the contracts it is not that hard.  

    That is another part of BP that I love... you were in town so we had a little sunday funday or some (ok, more than some) drinks and talked REI.

    Can't wait for next year's SF summit 

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    @Jay Hinrichs - no I don't... but my husband does.  Otherwise we would have done 2 weeks in Mexico and a month in Europe.  I can't wait till the word "PTO" is banned from this household

    @Xeng Thao - I am glad you liked it!  Thanks for the support

  • Toronto, Ontario · Member since 2014 · 615 posts · 172 votes
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    @Brie Schmidt 

    This is awesome! Big congratulations, but I can bet you that your type never 'retires'!

    This is very inspiring; to lock down 40 units in 8 months is phenomenal.

    Thanks for sharing.

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