My First BRRRR property in the Houston area

My First BRRRR property in the Houston area

IT Professional 路 Houston, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 101 posts 路 47 votes

So it's time to celebrate my very hard earned 2nd win. Unlike the first time around, I decided for the 2nd rental I want to look for something that I can purchase with $0 money down. I went ahead and searched for this unicorn called - BRRRR.

Here is how it all started.

I sat down and calculated how much my first rental cost me out of pocket, and how much it cash-flowed for me every month and then I looked at how much it'd cost me down the road if I were to buy 10 more rentals the same way. The answer to that is: it's way too expensive for my blood!

So how did I go about it?

1) I started looking at deals from wholesaler's. I worked with bigger firms like New Western and Networth Realty. I also worked with individual wholesalers as well. The reason I work with different types of sources is because I know the smaller wholesalers are more flexible with how I am willing to pay for the property. (As always, please pm me if you want me to share the contacts with you). Lastly, I set up a premium account with MyHouseDeals so I can look up new deals without having to rely on the wholesalers informing me.

2) I started driving to see those 'deals' in person and I am building a good baseline of what kind of deals are hot, what kind of repairs are common and which ones are hard to estimate for. I also try to network with other investors I happen to see there at the same time. I also noted different marketing strategies so for example, if a property is listed as 'needs a straight forward update,' that means you need a solid contractor who is willing to go through every corner of the house to fix the paint, replace rotten baseboards, scrub tubs, resurface cabinets and etc. It's a very annoying kind of work and it's not good for all contractors (trust me on that).

3) I started to look for lenders. I know I need to refi this property after the repair is done and my goal is to increase the value so I won't be paying any downpayment or closing cost. I looked around and the best ones I found was Security National Mortgage (Thanks to Jerry Ta's referral). What they offer for BRRRR investors is a investor friendly HML-refi program. However, if you are new to the game like me and you want to get a deal from a bigger wholesaler, they may require you to use their HML services.

Now, once you have the deal sources set up, gotten pre-qualified with a few lenders and you have seen some deals in person, so what's next?

Here is where the grueling journey starts on finding the BRRRR unicorn. I calculated deals after deals and what I find the most important thing to keep in mind is not only you care about the ARV, you also want to make sure it's a great rental area.

I know my HML lender will lend me 70% of ARV upfront and I will be able to get 75% of ARV from the refi to pay off the loan so I just need to make sure the repair cost I estimate for is no more than 10% of the ARV. I also want to make sure the amount of repair I need to complete to get the ARV that I want is just for the rental level repairs, and not for flips (typically the flip level repairs are more costly).

From that, I have come up with my criteria list:

1) purchase price of 80-85k

2) repair estimate of 15k and has to be done in 2 weeks

3) ARV of 120k

4) Rents at 1200 monthly or more

5) Cash ROI of 10% or more

Here is what I found:

-SFH

-3/2/2

-1500 sq ft

-solid c+/b- neighborhood

- need a complete interior cosmetic update: flooring, paint, refinish cabinets, refinish tubs, closet, countertops, and fixtures.

-good curb appeal. vaulted ceiling in the living room, brick veneer exterior on the front half, kitchen is open to the living area and we knew other investors that have bought rentals in this area as well so that's a plus

So we purchased the house at $89,000 and the HML appraised it at $125,000 (with estimated repair submitted at $15,000). From that, the HML lent us $87,500. At the first closing, we paid about $8000 in closing cost and other costs, plus another $15,000 in reserve. Now, here is an interesting insight to HML, if you are new to them or if the deal isn't good enough to them, they will want you to have some skin in the game by funding your repair cost upfront and have them hold the reserve for you. The proper way to use the reserve is to set up milestone inspections and pay the draw fee to get the fund released back to you, after you meet all the milestone requirement. As an investor, if you know your repair is going to take less than a month, I'd suggest to pay the entire repair yourself first and get that fund back to you via a check after the refi is complete.

So once, we got it under contract and things are moving very fast at this point because every day, I am paying about $33 bucks to the HML on an interest only loan. I quickly got 4 quote from different contractors (the rule of thumb is no more than 3) and based on the pro's and con, I picked the one that I can afford and manage. I went with Tommy from Lizzar Restoration and got the repair completed in 3 weeks.

Here are the main things I'd suggest to watch out for:

1) During the time you make the purchase to completing your repair, don't forget to compile a list of repair items that you actually did and save the before/after pictures. Any certifications or warranties that you have on the house, keep that handy too. These are great material to use when you compile the packet you should deliver to your appraiser on the day of appraisal for refi. This is a GAME-CHANGER for us.

2) Once the carpets are removed, it's easier to see how uneven the floor is. If you are concerned with foundation problems, I'd suggest getting an engineering report at this point. This way, you can perhaps save some money from using a foundation repair company right away and you can submit that as part of your support packet during refi appraisal as well. Keep in mind that a refi appraiser has the right to inspect both cosmetic and structure quality of the house.

3) You can change your actual list of repairs as you see fit. Make sure you run a solid rental comp in the area that you bought the property in and if the DOM is high, you want to go a little nicer on the updates. The crowd pleasers are always the kitchen updates, master bathroom and flooring. The high DOM was our problem so we decided to take out the bathroom re-tile and went with all matching granite on kitchen countertop and both bathroom vanities.

4) You can start working on the refi once your first closing is complete so you want to contact your lender right away and submit all the necessary paperwork to kick off the process. Keep in mind if you have used the HML in your first closing, you will be able to re-use the flood certificates, and survey.

5) Lastly, make sure you are managing your contractor well. Give clear directions and ask for invoices/receipts. The biggest problem that we ran into was the HVAC system. We didn't expect to replace it so that cost us $4,400. However, we did make sure we pointed that out to our appraiser and updated our total repair cost in the appraiser's packet.

So how did we do?

We were able to finish the remodeling in 3 weeks and with the HVAC cost, we completed it at $15,400. Our appraisal came back as $130,000 (5k > original) so that was really good news. However, the refi took longer to finish than expected so we weren't done until 2 months into the project (I have estimated 2 months holding cost in my original calculation).

We listed the rental at $1300 and that was a pain to get rented. After being on the market for 30 days, it's finally rented at the full asking price.

Good news?! yes, we didn't pay the closing cost at the 2nd closing, we did get our repair reserve back from the HML and we were able to use the equity in lieu of a down payment so that's a huge win for us!

The lesson learned here:

1) check the HVAC system before buying the property if you can

2) don't price the rental too high if the DOM in the area is already high. Vacancy is very expensive!

3) vet your contractors and be thorough on inspections

4) line things up and be ready for delay's

That's a wrap!

I'd love to get some feedback from anyone else out there. Please message me for questions/feedback.

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Investor 路 Phoenix, AZ 路 Member since 2015 路 191 posts 路 152 votes
10y

@Iman Yu Congrats on your deal it sounds like that will be a cash flow machine for you. 30 days on market is great in the grand scheme of things. 

We're pretty flexible with our investors in terms of which lender they use for our wholesale deals, but I have to agree with you that Security National Mortgage is one of the best. They're always on time and good to their borrowers. 

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  • Investor 路 Phoenix, AZ 路 Member since 2015 路 191 posts 路 152 votes
    10y

    @Iman Yu Congrats on your deal it sounds like that will be a cash flow machine for you. 30 days on market is great in the grand scheme of things. 

    We're pretty flexible with our investors in terms of which lender they use for our wholesale deals, but I have to agree with you that Security National Mortgage is one of the best. They're always on time and good to their borrowers. 

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Park City, UT 路 Member since 2016 路 678 posts 路 531 votes
    10y

    Wow! Great write-up Iman! Thanks for giving back to the community. I am actually in the middle of my third property and a few steps behind you on this one. I followed a similar process. The rehab starts tomorrow. My HML has given me six weeks to get the rehab done and they then start the process for the refi / second close. The goal is to be into the second loan by month 3.

    I'd like to send you a colleague request with some questions if you don't mind.

  • Sugar Land, TX 路 Member since 2016 路 69 posts 路 79 votes
    10y
    Iman Yu this is great! and congratulations! It's always inspiring to see other new investors success stories and lessons learned. Keep up the great pace!
  • Investor 路 Indianapolis, IN 路 Member since 2015 路 80 posts 路 82 votes
    10y

    Iman, congrats on both deals.  This is a great write-up thanks for giving back to the BP community. 

  • IT Professional 路 Houston, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 101 posts 路 47 votes
    10y

    @Trey Watson hey thanks for the encouragement and feed back. If NW can be flexible with HML, that'd be great because I'd love to use SNMC on a NW deal. I forgot to mention that the deal analysis packets from NW are 1 of the best I've seen on the market so good job on that!

    @Tony Castronovo congrats on #3. that's great! just fyi though, you should be able to get the refi going before your repair is complete. They can start the paperwork and then once your repair is complete, you can notify them and they will send an appraiser out. Who is your refi lender?

    @Kami S. of course! BP is what got me started :) feel free to pm me and shoot me any questions.

  • Investor 路 San Diego, CA 路 Member since 2016 路 69 posts 路 9 votes
    10y

    That is great. I learnt a lot from your post based on BRRRR strategy. That's how I want to do as well.

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Beaumont, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 161 posts 路 77 votes
    10y
    Iman Yu congrats on the BRRRR deal. Thanks for sharing your experience with such detail.
  • Rental Property Investor 路 Boone, NC 路 Member since 2015 路 291 posts 路 88 votes
    10y
    Iman Yu great explanation of your second deal, thanks for all those tips !
  • Real Estate Agent 路 Spring, TX 路 Member since 2016 路 11 posts 路 1 vote
    10y

    @Iman Yu thank you for such a thorough rundown on your deal ... and congratulations!!

    Can I ask you a question?  Did you determine what repairs to make (and estimate their cost) on our by yourself or did you use some other process?  I'm just wondering if that is something you get a feel for by working through so many deals?

  • IT Professional 路 Houston, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 101 posts 路 47 votes
    10y

    @Tristan S. Thanks! good luck on your search as wel and shoot me any questions you have!

    @Tim Yearout good question. It's a little bit of both, actually. I try to focus on properties with ARV no more than 125k because of the 1% rule I want to stick with. If I am to flip though, I would look at a different ARV range and repair estimate. The sweet spot for rentals in Houston area is about $1200-1350 imo.

    If you work with experienced wholesalers, they will provide you with an estimated repair cost/list based on their comp/ARV so that's one of the things you can use to formulate your own repair list. For eample, Networth provides a very detailed repair list that comes with their property analysis packet.

    If you want to be thorough, you can tweak the list based on what you see in other rentals in the same area by running comps and what you learn from other investors. For example, if the DOM in that area is high then you want to go higher on your updates. 

    As far as repairs go, for the houses at the price range I was looking are pretty basic. Once I saw a bunch of properties and compared them with the comp/ARV, the repair list was easy to compile. The big structural items are HAVAC, roof and foundation issues. The common cosmectic updates are kitchen (cabinets and granite countertop), flooring updates and master bathroom. Those 2 categories add up to your total repair list.

  • Involved In Real Estate 路 Houston, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 1 post 路 0 votes
    10y
    Very well done Iman.
  • Houston, TX 路 Member since 2016 路 10 posts 路 2 votes
    10y

    Congrats Iman! Thank you for sharing your experience as I'm quite sure this will serve as a helpful post for newcomers such as myself.

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Philadelphia, PA 路 Member since 2015 路 180 posts 路 66 votes
    10y

    Congratulations @Iman Yu! That is AWESOME. Thanks so much for the detailed breakdown of your deal.

    I am just finishing the refi on my first BRRRR in Philadelphia. I used a HELOC but I'm excited to try using a Hard Money Lender now that I read your post. I don't typically hear of that many people using HML on buy and holds, usually only flips. It sounds like a quick turnaround and good scheduling made it possible for you. Any other tips you have using hard money for BRRRR deals?

    Congrats again!

  • Real Estate Broker 路 Portland, OR 路 Member since 2015 路 201 posts 路 98 votes
    10y

    Great use of the Brrrr method! 

  • Houston, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 204 posts 路 68 votes
    10y

    Great job @Iman Yu!!

    I'm in the planning phase of how I want make my first purchase. This was wonderful to come across. I hope to share some details of my journey soon. Good job getting things done馃憤

  • Investor 路 Pleasanton, CA 路 Member since 2016 路 46 posts 路 17 votes
    10y

    Nicely done @Iman Yu!

    Quick question: is Security National Mortgage these guys at snmc dot com?

    I could not find any information about HML on their site.

    Cheers,

    Fred

  • Investor / Flipper 路 Spring, TX 路 Member since 2016 路 38 posts 路 11 votes
    10y

    Great job and thank you for the insight. Did you get the property from Myhousedeals??

  • IT Professional 路 Houston, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 101 posts 路 47 votes
    10y

    @Fred Weiller That's correct. They may not have listed their program online. I talked to Donny directly about it. I can give you their contact if you pm me.

    @Robert Youngquist I did not this time but I know people who have and their deals worked out fine. Just do your own due diligence on the deals, negotiate with the wholesaler and line up your lenders properly

    @Amber Koontz Thank! and good luck on your first deal!

    @Aaron Cullen Thank!

    @Garrett 

    @Garrett M. HELOC or HEL would work too. That's very smart of you you to think of creative financing way. Check out Brandon Turner's little/no money down book. i think you would find that book useful.

    You captured my points exactly. Fast turnaround time is absolutely the key in this method. You want to start with a project small enough..rehab time < 30 days. You need some extra cash as reserve as well. Identify a good rental neighborhood (that's my mistake).

  • Investor 路 Washington, DC 路 Member since 2016 路 22 posts 路 11 votes
    10y
    Sweet! I like how you broke down the steps along the way. Great info to share.
  • Investor 路 Sugar Land, TX 路 Member since 2013 路 71 posts 路 26 votes
    10y
    Hi Iman Yu. Do you have any pre and post Reno pics to share? I'm always interested in seeing how far a Reno goes for the budget. Thanks!
  • Investor 路 San Antonio, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 227 posts 路 66 votes
    10y

    Awesome job @Iman Yu! I am bookmarking this post for future reference :) I am finally in Houston now, so we should definitely catch up sometime in the near future!

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Spring, TX 路 Member since 2016 路 75 posts 路 24 votes
    10y
    Iman Yu congrats on your successful property purchase! It seems like you really did your due diligence on this one and you came out on top. This is exactly what I've been wanting to do but I can't seem to gain enough traction to start. I would love to pick your brain and see how you learned such awesome strategies. Would you mind if I PM'd you my info to learn more from you?
  • IT Professional 路 Houston, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 101 posts 路 47 votes
    10y

    @Courtney Downtain thanks for the compliment, Courtney! Yes, feel free to pm me. I'd love to meet you and share my experience/resources with you.

  • Investor 路 Bryan, TX 路 Member since 2016 路 165 posts 路 82 votes
    10y

    well done!  Thank you for all the detail. I do see a flip in my near future with hopes of its funds going towards a multi family buy and hold.  

    I get excited to see people making things  happen! Don't sit still and keep up the good work. 

  • Developer 路 Houston, TX 路 Member since 2015 路 1k+ posts 路 1k+ votes
    10y

    Iman, that is great news. You're just chugging along. It's great to see the progress you have made this past year. Hope to keep seeing you at the meetups to hear about your next conquest.

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