Trading W-2 for Self Management- 0-92 Units in 16 months!

Trading W-2 for Self Management- 0-92 Units in 16 months!

Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes

I hope to provide an informative account of how I was able to scale to 92 units in 16 months, leave my W-2 job and truly find my passion.

Back Story:

I am 33 years old, I am married with two young (1 and 3) children. My career before REI was as an IT project manager at an insurance company. I currently own 92 multi-family rental units in Omaha Nebraska, mostly with partners and self-manage. The portfolio consists of properties ranging in size from duplexes up to a 24 unit building.

Financing: I received my initial capital through a HELOC on my primary residence. All my properties are traditionally financed with 20-30% down on 15-25 year AMs that balloon between 5-10 years. I have also used hard money and private lenders as well.

What Started my obsession with REI:

I, like many of the individuals on BP was frustrated with the lack of freedom as well as minimal feeling of accomplishments through my 9-5 job. I had always known I wanted to do something entrepreneurial but had no idea what direction to proceed.

Before I go much further I want to highlight some of the effects of beginning your investing career:

  • 1.People will doubt you and think you are crazy. They will say Real Estate is risky, they will say you have a great job, they will ask are you worried about plunging toilets at midnight. Be respectful to these people but do not internalize their words. Soon enough they will see your success and want to emulate your actions.
  • 2.You will have to sacrifice a lot of your fun time. No more lazy Sundays or lunches with your complaining coworkers.. you have work to do.
  • 3.Your sacrifices will affect your family, you will be on your phone more, likely you will now be working your full-time job and investing “job”. This is the harsh reality (at least for me) to get where you want to be. It is vital to surround yourself with a strong support system.
  • 4.You will become very aware of your goals and that most individuals do not have goals further than next week. This is ok, focus on yourself but give conscious effort to help others.

January 1st 2017: off of friends recommendation I picked up “Rich Dad Poor Dad”. I finished the book within two days and immediately realized my idea of wealth building was completely backwards.

In 2017 I had zero debt, a good job and was leveraging my 401k… I have traded that philosophy to acquire large amounts of debt, no 401k or IRA contributions and now have the freedom to control my own financial destiny.

Below are the steps I took to remove myself from my W-2 (and 30 years of working for someone else) and obtain a career as a real estate investor:

Step 1 (Education): Read and listen to as many books and podcasts as possible. Below are the books I have read and/or listened to (real estate and business):

This is the most important step in your journey, you must be constantly educating yourself! If you don’t like to read, listen or educate yourself than unfortunately you will likely not find much success (although I am sure there are those out there that have succeeded without).

Rich Dad Poor Dad, Millionaire Real Estate Investor, Multi- Family Millions (Dave Lindahl), ABC’s of Real Estate Investing, The Book on Rental Property Investing, Hold, The Advanced Guide to Real Estate Investing, The Due Diligence Handbook for Commercial Real Estate, Millionaire Real Estate Agent, The Book on Managing Rental Properties (Brandon Turner), The Emyth Revistited

Crushing It in Apartments and Commercial Real Estate, Emerging Real Estate Markets ,The ABC’s of Property Management, Wheelbarrow Profits, The One Thing, Outliers, Start with Why, David and Goliath, Chasing Excellence, Extreme Ownership, The Compound Effect, The Entrepreneur Roller Coaster, Be Obsessed or Be Average, The 10x Rule, The Obstacle is the Way, Ego is the Enemy, Am I Being Too Subtle, 48 Laws of Power, Atlas Shrugged, Man’s Search For Meaning, Sapiens, Tools of Titans, Four Hour Work Week.

Step 2 (financing): To get a better idea of what I was capable of purchasing, I met with four different lenders and began a relationship to acquire funding. I decided to open a HELOC on my primary residence, this allowed me to have access to capital if I came across an available deal.

***How did I choose the lenders? I choose a larger bank (better rates), two local banks (less restrictions, and one in which I already banked.

Step 3 (network with everyone): During my lunch breaks at work and in between changing diapers I would call/text anyone I knew or didn’t know to discuss real estate. Friends, brokers, lenders, attorneys. Anyone who either had a relationship to investing or was a person I looked up to based on their successes.

Find everyone in your network that is smarter than you and begin networking and explaining your goals. They likely know other smart people and those smart people will know someone who invests in real estate (Because smart people invest in real estate… just like A=B B=C A=C)!

*****I can't underscore how important networking is, I was able to link up with an experienced first partner who helped (and still helps) guide me through REI.

Step 4 (analyze deals and market): Analyzing multiple deals everyday as well as market rents for the areas I was targeting. I regularly searched through Zillow, realtor.com, Loopnet and Trulia. I used these sites to find properties for sale, current rents, as and look over previously sold properties.

Step 5 (leads): Immediately I realized that going about finding a deal through Zillow was nearly impossible and that brokers are not incredibly willing to spend time handing off deals to a newbie. So…. What did I do?

  • 1.Started posting on Biggerpockets (I received my first deal through a BP real estate agent)!
  • 2.Downloaded a list of multi family owners from Listsource.com
  • 3.After receiving the list I searched for phone numbers and began looking up every property (assessors website and Zillow) and becoming familiar with the neighborhoods. I would also walk the neighborhoods and properties over my lunch break and on my drive to and from work. (this is before I made a call or sent out any letters).
  • 4.Once I had a decent understanding of my criteria I began hand writing letters (191 to be exact) and calling the phone numbers I was able to gather online.
  • *****This was the catalyst to me finding deals and launching my career***** I was able to do six deals from that initial list.

Step 6 (start networking group): After attending the local REIA a few times and receiving a lot of value I realized that starting another group would bring at least twice the value. With the help of my partner I began a networking group which now in less than a year has over 200 members and regular attendance of 40+ individuals a meeting.

Property Management:

When I initially began learning about the power of real estate and passive income I assumed I would also be a passive investor and reap the benefits of financial freedom. Quickly I realized that if I were to take the passive approach my goals of quitting my W-2 would be extremely delayed (also I would be putting my life savings into another person’s hands). I realized that property management, although a job in itself, would allow me to control my career and financial freedom.

Caveat: Property management is Very demanding. Do NOT manage your own properties if:

  • 1.You are not a people person.
  • 2.You do not like talking on the phone.
  • 3.You dislike working weekends (or any hour of the day outside of 9-5).
  • 4.You do not want a second job. This is NOT passive, it requires you to create systems and deal with all the complexities that a business entails.

Reasons to manage your own properties:

  • 1.You are an effective manager and for the most part enjoy people.
  • 2.You want to reduce vacancy and expenses (after the property has been repaired my vacancy rate is below 2%).
  • 3.You want to start your own business and instill a certain “culture” at your properties. I focus heavily on customer service, I am not a pushover but try to go above and beyond as far as customer satisfaction.
  • 4.It keeps you very in tune with your investments, which may be the key to your success.

Thanks for reading and if you would like to talk please reach out through BP or any other channels! I would love to connect with more individuals and discuss Real Estate!

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Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2016 · 33 posts · 26 votes
7y

@Collin Schwartz forgot one large detail that has been taking up a good portion of his time the last year and a half - giving back!  Thanks for being a mentor, for always being open to provide advice, and for starting up and managing the meetup.  Appreciate it buddy!

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  • Rental Property Investor · Culver City, CA · Member since 2014 · 221 posts · 79 votes
    7y
    Nice work and thanks for sharing all the details of your experience.
  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Jeff T. thanks sir!

  • Rental Property Investor · Queens, NY · Member since 2018 · 99 posts · 70 votes
    7y

    Fantastic job Collin! Just by looking at all the books you have read and the phone call plus the handwritten letters you have made, I can see why you have accumulated 92 units in less than 1 and a half year. Keep up the momentum!

  • Real Estate Agent · Omaha, NE · Member since 2018 · 42 posts · 26 votes
    7y

    Great work! I am new to REI and live in the Omaha Area. Let's chat sometime!

  • Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 3 votes
    7y
    @Collin Schwartz Thank you sir this is very encouraging!
  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Leo Poon thanks for the kind words. Best of luck with your investing ventures.

  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Scott Bergmann feel free to reach out anytime. Also the meetup is this upcoming Wednesday and it would be great to connect then.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2018 · 44 posts · 36 votes
    7y
    @Collin Schwartz Hi Collin! Your post is very inspiring to me! I am working on my education first before jumping into the game, and having someone new like you sharing your experience is a great help in realizing my own goals. Keep up the great work and thank you!
  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Nathan Shipley thanks man reach out anytime!

  • Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2015 · 242 posts · 182 votes
    7y
    @Collin Schwartz. Great post! Inspiring! This is a how-to guide. Thank you for sharing your story. I’m certain your success will continue.
  • Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2016 · 33 posts · 26 votes
    7y

    @Collin Schwartz forgot one large detail that has been taking up a good portion of his time the last year and a half - giving back!  Thanks for being a mentor, for always being open to provide advice, and for starting up and managing the meetup.  Appreciate it buddy!

  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Jeremiah Mon education is vital but make sure you take action on the items you study. Right or wrong I am of the mentality: Ready, Fire, Aim. I fail regularly but I have become more used to the fact that failing is a necessary part of success. Best of luck and keep pushing forward!

  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Max Fleissner thanks man for the kind words! The best thing about investing is meeting other motivated individuals and building meaningful relationships. Talk to you soon buddy.

  • Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2014 · 197 posts · 74 votes
    7y

    @Collin Schwartz, very inspiring man. I’ll see you on Wednesday.  Keep sharing stories, it helps people like me that find it hard to see the light at the end off the tunnel.  You’ve proven that you’re  not just a great set of pecs, but you have a lot to offer to the real estate community. Lol

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    Rental Property Investor · Tampa, FL · Member since 2018 · 251 posts · 124 votes
    7y
    Wait what!? You started in 2017!!!! Way to go.
  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Matt Morgan besides real estate.. staying swole is most important! Jk. You can do what I am doing! Is it passive income.. no! Was I on the phone for 3+ hours today, yes. But its so worth it!!!! See you Wednesday buddy!
  • Realtor · Minneapolis, MN · Member since 2016 · 245 posts · 107 votes
    7y

    @Collin Schwartz Congrats Brother! Keep killing it. See you next time I am in town.

  • Rental Property Investor · Brookhaven, MS · Member since 2017 · 186 posts · 108 votes
    7y

    @Collin Schwartz Congrats on making the leap! It's amazing what hard work and determination will do. Did you mention what kind of deals you were doing to get that many doors that quickly? Some form of multi family I assume?

  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Jason Ray Richardson unit size was duplexes to a 24 unit. I still really like duplexes as we can find owners that are very willing to sell with. This can lead to a large equity gain with property management.
  • Rental Property Investor · Brookhaven, MS · Member since 2017 · 186 posts · 108 votes
    7y

    I figured it wasn't single family housing, but that's still an extreme high growth rate, keep it up!

  • Rental Property Investor · Fort Collins, CO · Member since 2015 · 273 posts · 127 votes
    7y
    @Collin Schwartz your last deal wouldn’t happen to be off Cass street would it? (The 24-Unit)?
  • Rental Property Investor · Papillion, NE · Member since 2017 · 398 posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Patrick Soukup it was not, although I wish it was!

  • Member since 2018 · 1 post · 2 votes
    7y

    Collin- you are a true inspiration to all of us trying to make it in this business.  The honesty and your willingness to share some of the ugly truths to this business is very uplifting (something many will never be truthful about)

  • Member since 2018 · 1 post · 1 vote
    7y

    Amazing results! You deserve it for the dedication and efforts you put into it! Love the advice about education being step 1. Keep it up!

  • Investor · Prairieville, LA · Member since 2015 · 311 posts · 424 votes
    7y

    @Collin Schwartz

    Thanks for posting this and congratulations on your success!

    You 2 bullet points on sacrifice sums up what a REI must do in order to achieve success. It will take a lot of evenings, nights, and weekends of sacrifice and hard work. While your coworkers are at Happy Hour or football games, the REI may be knee deep in it. It may even eat into your vacation. I have burned up texts and calls from the other side of the world because of the crises du jour in my rental and flipping businesses.

    I was wondering if you wouldn't mind sharing the makeup of your team?  Do you have a full time handyman? Assistant? In my opinion, one needs at least 75 to 100 units to support a FT handyman and a FT PM (or assistant PM). Do you think that is accurate?

    I really think a newbie can take your instruction guide above (and one posted by @Frank Wolter recently) and achieve success.

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