First BRRRR (from auction) finally in the books!

First BRRRR (from auction) finally in the books!

Rental Property Investor · New York City, NY · Member since 2015 · 42 posts · 148 votes

After a couple years of trying to get a BRRRR done, I finally accomplished this goal and wanted to share my experience!! This was after a ton of sifting through properties and being very very picky about what I would go for. I hope this is just the begging of a string of these deals, but we'll see. Next, I want to purchase a 5-10 unit property. I'm hoping this serves as inspiration for other people who have found the BRRRR thing a bit tough to crack.

About 2.5 years ago, when I decided to get into RE investing, I had no experience and I turned to BP for the vast majority of my learning (thanks BP!). I found a market, started putting together a team, found a partner etc. Still, it took me about a year to actually close on my first property. That first property was a 3-unit that I purchased for a fair but good price and is now occupied and cash flowing. I bought that property for $152k with a partner and it currently cashflows about $1,000 per month - that's with a conventional purchase mortgage we got from Wells Fargo at 75% LTV. This property gives us a nice return, but it's not worth much more than we bought it for and is going to be a simple buy and hold without much opportunity for value add or BRRRR.

After buying that first property, I realized that I just didn't have enough cash to keep buying properties that required me to let so much cash sit in the deal. It was clear that BRRRR was the only strategy that would work for me.

So I spent another year looking and in August (2018) finally found a foreclosed 3-unit being sold through an auction site in the same upstate NY area where my last property was located. It looked good, although obviously there wasn’t much info about the property and I wasn’t allowed to check out the interior in person. The exterior looked solid and there was no evidence of any issues regarding structural integrity. I also knocked on some neighbors doors and asked them about the property: I learned that the tenants had been solid, and there hadn’t been any issues with the former owner - he had just gotten sick and given up on being a landlord.

Given the inherent risk of not being able to do an interior inspection, I spoke with my contractor and figured out what was the cost of the worst case scenario and priced that in to my offer of $71,000. This was the number that made the worst case scenario still an ok outcome. I lost the auction, but when the winner dropped out, the seller (a mortgage company) accepted my offer instead. The closing process with this auction company was terrible. The terms are extremely one-sided and I was dealing with a closing agent, unable to speak with the seller or sellers attorney. It was like playing a sick and twisted game of real estate telephone. My lawyer almost quit from having to deal with this headache.

We finally closed on the last day permitted by the contract, and what did my property manager find when he visited the property? He found a well-maintained 3-units, with about $5k of work to be done. That was much better than the $40k I had made room for in my calculations.

On top of this, I knew it was 3 units and 6 bedrooms, but we didn’t know how they were distributed. I had foolishly assumed that it was 3 2-BR units, but its actually 3-2-1. This was the only disappointment, but I’m obviously not complaining.

After completing that $5k of work - paint, floors in one room, new appliances in one unit - we rented out the property and it’s currently fully occupied. Just last month, the property that I had bought for $71k appraised at $163 and was able to get a portfolio loan with a local bank. I’ve taken all my cash out of the deal and then some, and the property is still cash flowing!!

Top level numbers:

Purchase price: $71,000

Initial CapEx: $5,000

Purchase all in: ~ $80,000

Appraised: $163,000

Loan: $112,000 / 5.5% fixed / 25 years

Monthly payment PITI: ~ $1,150

Rent: $2,300

Expense Estimates: $664

1. Capex (5%):$115

2. Maintenance (5%): $115

3. Vacancy (8%): $184

4. Property Management (10%): $230

Rough estimated monthly cash flow: $487

And this is after taking EVERY PENNY out of the deal and an extra $30K to put toward another one!!

NB: I realize I got very lucky there wasn’t any damage or serious flooding or electrical or plumbing work to do. BUT since I priced that into my offer, it wouldn’t have sunk me. I just would have ended up with a single instead of a home run.

BRRRR is real haha/ thank you BP!

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Twentynine Palms California · Member since 2018 · 7 posts · 13 votes
7y

I'm new and not sure if it ok to ask,  but how did you initially fund the 71k? Congrats on the homerun! 

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  • Investor · Arlington, TX · Member since 2017 · 12 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    Congrats and thanks for sharing! 

  • Real Estate Agent · Goleta, CA · Member since 2017 · 73 posts · 92 votes
    7y

    Congratulations! That is so awesome.

    Amazing how patience pays off...I needed this story today.

    Thank you!

  • Investor · Lees Summit, MO · Member since 2015 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Congratulations! So happy for you. Thank for the article. I am considering a property going to auction in just a few days. So is it best to hire a real estate lawyer to help with the transaction? I have no experience at auctions, have only bought foreclosures through Realtors.

  • Investor · Lees Summit, MO · Member since 2015 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Congratulations! So happy for you. Thank for the article. I am considering a property going to auction in just a few days. So is it best to hire a real estate lawyer to help with the transaction. I have no experience at auctions. Have only bought foreclosures through Realtors.

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    Congrats :) 

  • Yatesville, GA · Member since 2017 · 17 posts · 6 votes
    7y

    What websites are you all referring to when it comes to the online auctions?

  • Real Estate Agent · Acworth GA · Member since 2016 · 5 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    Congratulations on your BRRR and thank you for providing all the details. also this is very inspiring

    ThankS

  • Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2014 · 58 posts · 25 votes
    7y

    @Daniel Krantz That is fantastic, really a great write up and inspiration for the rest of us.  I am in a similar situation, I have purchased a few properties that are buy and hold with 20-25% down that are cash flowing nicely; but it takes forever to save the capital back up for the next one. 

    I intend to deploy the BRRRR method this year and hopefully snag 2 properties, that's my goal anyway.

    Thanks for sharing!

    Kyle

  • Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    CONGRATS!!!!

  • Rental Property Investor · Springdale, MD · Member since 2018 · 65 posts · 24 votes
    7y
    @Daniel Krantz this is soooo inspiring. I am encouraged. Thanks for sharing. Do you mind sharing auction sites you use. Also as someone already asked, do you usually need to use a lawyer to manage your auction transaction till closing? Or is this just a complicated auction deal?
  • Rental Property Investor · Shavertown, PA · Member since 2017 · 27 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    @Daniel Krantz congratulations on the successful venture! It just goes to show; take action and follow the steps and you will find success! I want to find a home run investment this year!

  • Rental Property Investor · NJ/PA · Member since 2016 · 555 posts · 149 votes
    7y

    Which auction sites you use ? All cash deal?

  • Rental Property Investor · NJ/PA · Member since 2016 · 555 posts · 149 votes
    7y
    You need sell one , and use the cash to buy two more.   Repeat. 


    Originally posted by @Kyle Coleman:

    @Daniel Krantz That is fantastic, really a great write up and inspiration for the rest of us.  I am in a similar situation, I have purchased a few properties that are buy and hold with 20-25% down that are cash flowing nicely; but it takes forever to save the capital back up for the next one. 

    I intend to deploy the BRRRR method this year and hopefully snag 2 properties, that's my goal anyway.

    Thanks for sharing!

    Kyle

  • Real Estate Agent · Tarrytown, NY · Member since 2016 · 149 posts · 63 votes
    7y

    Congrats @Daniel Krantz

    What upstate NY market?  

    Bank didn't make you wait for seasoning to re-finance? Was it a small local bank

  • Charlotte, NC · Member since 2018 · 62 posts · 28 votes
    7y

    @Daniel Krantz great job! Your persistence has rewarded you. Would you mind sharing what type of funding you used? 

    May you have many more successes like this, in the future.
    -Eric

  • Investor · NV and CA · Member since 2016 · 375 posts · 229 votes
    7y

    Congrats!  I've never heard of a property essentially meeting the "3 percent rule."

  • Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    Do you live near the property? Were you not allowed to go inside and do an inspection before closing?

  • Specialist · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2017 · 5 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Hey congrats, what a great turn out! I have two question to ask, you mentioned your lawyer involved, is it necessary to have one as a newbie? And whats a reasonable price to hire one??

  • Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 17 votes
    7y

    That's awesome! Thanks for sharing. 

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    Realtor · Carmel-By-The-Sea, CA · Member since 2016 · 59 posts · 25 votes
    7y

    Congrats @Daniel Krantz! Were you worried at all about having a clean title from an auction house? I've heard of horror stories when it comes to getting a clean title for an auction property.  How did you go about ensuring it was clean?

    Jeff Langham, MBA, Realtor®518 Reviews
  • Investor · Spring, TX · Member since 2017 · 6 posts · 1 vote
    7y
    @Daniel Krantz What an awesome success story. Thanks for sharing.
  • TX · Member since 2018 · 17 posts · 10 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @JoAne Baptiste:

    Congratulations! I too have taken the 2018 challenge by @BrandonTurner and have won bids on two properties from an online auction. We are preparing to close on both in the next week or so. I will be using the BRRRR strategy as well and will update you all on the details, once I get to that point.

    Hi JoAne,

    Congratulations! I am new to investing like several others here and want to know if you would share how you are financing these two properties and what website your went to for the online auction?

    @Daniel Krantz-Thank you for sharing all the details and congrats to you to!

    Rebecca Lujan

  • Rental Property Investor · New York, NY · Member since 2011 · 956 posts · 510 votes
    7y

    What town upstate NY ate you in?

  • Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Way to go man very inspiring!

  • Member since 2018 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    congrats and thanks for sharing..... great inspirational story

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