Closed on my first property last week!

Closed on my first property last week!

Rental Property Investor 路 Orange County, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 98 posts 路 138 votes

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Toledo.

Purchase price: $64,500
Cash invested: $19,445

First investment property and it's a duplex! Purchased sight unseen!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Stable cash-flowing duplex located within a half mile of a university and near where I grew up.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

My realtor/property manager passed it along to me after one of his other investor clients stopped communicating with him. I quickly ran the numbers and after some back-and-forth with the seller was able to negotiate the price to $10,400 below asking, plus some seller credits at closing.

How did you finance this deal?

I used the HELOC on my primary residence to fund the down payment and initial repairs.

How did you add value to the deal?

We put together a repair/maintenance list based off of the initial property inspection and tenant requests and prioritized what needed immediate attention. My realtor/property manager already had a team in place to knock out most of the list within the first week!

What was the outcome?

Addressing the immediate repair issues helped set the tone for the type of landlord that I want to be and should build trust and loyalty with the inherited tenants.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Since I live in California and this property's in Ohio, I am very fortunate to have found an exceptional realtor/property manager who can get things done. Buying a property sight unseen, I feel it's imperative to find someone you can trust, build a relationship, and follow their guidance. The main challenge I encountered was getting over my fear of taking the first steps. In the end, I can't believe how easy everything fell into place.

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Realtor 路 Boulder, CO 路 Member since 2016 路 3k+ posts 路 5k+ votes
6y

Did you have a foundation specialist in to check that foundation? Looks like possible step cracks? Unfortunately I don鈥檛 think this much water inside the basement would be caused by shrubs, it鈥檚 more likely you have a bigger issue. If those are indeed step cracks, and the water is entering through the mortar lines, that would explain the large amount of water and would be an indication of the beginnings of foundation failure unfortunately. This wouldn鈥檛 be caused by a few plants growing on the outside, but rather by a large amount of pressure being exerted on the foundation walls over time, causing them to crack along the points where the blocks are bonded (mortar lines) which are the weakest point and therefore the first points along which the foundation will show signs of failure. Putting drylok on the inside may reduce the amount of water entering in the short term but failing to address the pressure issue on the outside will just make the problem worse over time as the water isn鈥檛 prevented from coming into the wall itself as only the inside is sealed, so it just gets trapped in the wall, further degrading the structural integrity of the wall. I would get a foundation specialist out to assess the issue if you haven鈥檛. Ideally you would have taken this step during the inspection contingency period but I鈥檓 assuming it鈥檚 too late for that now, so keep that in mind for next one I guess. Part of the reason I'd never buy a place sight-unseen but to each his own. Slapping some drylok on the inside, removing some plants and throwing some dirt on the outside may not be an adequate solution, in fact I'd be surprised if it works... possible legit solutions will be to dig up the yard to assess the outside of the foundation wall, and address the pressure issue by back filling around the wall properly, sealing the outside of the foundation wall (not the inside), improving the negative grading issue with more than just adding some loose dirt on top, and adding French drains. Depending on how long that much water has been entering the basement, you鈥檒l want to look at the floor joists and check for mold/rot. If you鈥檙e planning to keep this property as a buy and hold I would address the foundation issue properly before it gets worse and leads to a more expensive repair down the road. Whoever did the walk through/inspection should have informed you of the possibility of foundation issues here and recommended having an expert take a look. 

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  • Rental Property Investor 路 Pawtucket, RI 路 Member since 2017 路 47 posts 路 37 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring way to go

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Orange County, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 98 posts 路 138 votes
    6y

    @Chris Christensen thanks! We did a video walkthrough on a couple other properties that didn't work out for one reason or another. Between the photos he sent of this property on a previous walkthrough with another client of his and photos from the property inspection, I felt confident on the condition and knew what work needed to be done. The goal is to raise the rents in the spring of 2020 after we tackle the immediate repair lists from the property inspection, tenant requests, and provide value adds. The biggest expense will be a new roof in the next 2-5 years.

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Orange County, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 98 posts 路 138 votes
    6y

    @Daniel Mendez right here on the forums after asking for referrals! We PM'd and then had a couple phone conversations to ensure our goals aligned.

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Orange County, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 98 posts 路 138 votes
    6y
  • Rental Property Investor 路 Orange County, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 98 posts 路 138 votes
    6y

    @Chris Christensen Tomorrow I'll post some before/after pics and explanations of some of the repairs.

  • Central Arkanas 路 Member since 2019 路 9 posts 路 8 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring congratulations! I鈥檓 also looking into purchasing my first multi family unit.

  • Member since 2019 路 12 posts 路 5 votes
    6y

    Sounds great! I look forward to seeing them.

  • Investor 路 Orange County, CA 路 Member since 2015 路 136 posts 路 57 votes
    6y

    Congrats @Justin Wotring!  You鈥檒l have to visit us at NOCREI sometime and share your story.

    Next meeting is November 26 - https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

  • Long Beach, CA 路 Member since 2016 路 61 posts 路 17 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring

    Very nice Justin! I grew up going to Cedar Point. I live in Long Beach now. It would be cool to meet up sometime and chat. I have some property in the metro Detroit area and am looking for other opportunities as well. Please PM me if your interested in chatting more.

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Blacklick, OH 路 Member since 2016 路 286 posts 路 253 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring Congrats.  Impressive your first house is out state and a duplex.  

  • Rochester, NY 路 Member since 2019 路 59 posts 路 26 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring Congrats on your first purchase. I am hoping to be in your shoes sometime soon myself.

  • George MevawalaBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent 路 Scottsdale, AZ 路 Member since 2017 路 115 posts 路 102 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring congrats! 

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Raleigh, NC 路 Member since 2019 路 11 posts 路 7 votes
    6y

    Congrats! You bought a out of state multifamily as your first rental, very brave. Sounds like you haven't seen the property in person, that was so awesome.

  • VA 路 Member since 2019 路 1 post 路 0 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring Thanks for sharing

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Omaha, NE 路 Member since 2019 路 17 posts 路 5 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring

    Congrats sir!

  • Property Manager 路 Lenexa, KS 路 Member since 2019 路 18 posts 路 3 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring Congrats! I'm familiar with that initial fear, we're offering on our first possible deal. Glad yours went so well, it's encouraging!

  • Member since 2019 路 66 posts 路 15 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring hi congratulations. I'm planning on doing the same. Do you have an LLC. How much is your estimated cost for renovation. Thanks

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Cumming, GA 路 Member since 2017 路 66 posts 路 15 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring : wow congratulations!

  • Multifamily Syndicator 路 Houston, TX 路 Member since 2016 路 1k+ posts 路 2k+ votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring

    You got your team in place and MOVED FAST! 

    This is how to do it!

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Orange County, CA 路 Member since 2018 路 98 posts 路 138 votes
    6y

    @Chris Christensen here's some pics of the initial repairs we did. We had to remove all the shrubs in front because they were causing the grading to slope towards the foundation which allowed water to get into the basement. We removed the shrubs and threw down some dirt to help guide rainwater away from the foundation. You can see the the water damage and mold in the basement pics below. We removed a rotted wood storage area and bleached/scrubbed the entire wall and sealed it. Night and day difference!

  • Rental Property Investor 路 Westminster, MD 路 Member since 2014 路 165 posts 路 221 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring congratulations

  • Member since 2019 路 1 post 路 0 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring

    Congrats!馃憤馃従

  • Bill LeBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor 路 Richmond, VA 路 Member since 2019 路 26 posts 路 2 votes
    6y

    Wow, awesome work! How much do you anticipate would be your renovation cost? 

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  • Member since 2019 路 9 posts 路 0 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring

    Congratulations!! I鈥檝e been looking for a deal these past two months but can鈥檛 seem to find one. I鈥檓 not saying there isn鈥檛 any in my area, but maybe my lack of experience isn鈥檛 helping. I鈥檝e considered looking elsewhere, in other markets, like you did, but I鈥檓 a bit scared. Any tips you can share when choosing a market, or how and why you chose Ohio? Congrats once again!! Way to take action!!

  • Member since 2018 路 1 post 路 0 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring congratulations

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