Closed on my first property last week!

Closed on my first property last week!

Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Toledo.

Purchase price: $64,500
Cash invested: $19,445

First investment property and it's a duplex! Purchased sight unseen!

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Stable cash-flowing duplex located within a half mile of a university and near where I grew up.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

My realtor/property manager passed it along to me after one of his other investor clients stopped communicating with him. I quickly ran the numbers and after some back-and-forth with the seller was able to negotiate the price to $10,400 below asking, plus some seller credits at closing.

How did you finance this deal?

I used the HELOC on my primary residence to fund the down payment and initial repairs.

How did you add value to the deal?

We put together a repair/maintenance list based off of the initial property inspection and tenant requests and prioritized what needed immediate attention. My realtor/property manager already had a team in place to knock out most of the list within the first week!

What was the outcome?

Addressing the immediate repair issues helped set the tone for the type of landlord that I want to be and should build trust and loyalty with the inherited tenants.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Since I live in California and this property's in Ohio, I am very fortunate to have found an exceptional realtor/property manager who can get things done. Buying a property sight unseen, I feel it's imperative to find someone you can trust, build a relationship, and follow their guidance. The main challenge I encountered was getting over my fear of taking the first steps. In the end, I can't believe how easy everything fell into place.

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Realtor · Boulder, CO · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 5k+ votes
6y

Did you have a foundation specialist in to check that foundation? Looks like possible step cracks? Unfortunately I don’t think this much water inside the basement would be caused by shrubs, it’s more likely you have a bigger issue. If those are indeed step cracks, and the water is entering through the mortar lines, that would explain the large amount of water and would be an indication of the beginnings of foundation failure unfortunately. This wouldn’t be caused by a few plants growing on the outside, but rather by a large amount of pressure being exerted on the foundation walls over time, causing them to crack along the points where the blocks are bonded (mortar lines) which are the weakest point and therefore the first points along which the foundation will show signs of failure. Putting drylok on the inside may reduce the amount of water entering in the short term but failing to address the pressure issue on the outside will just make the problem worse over time as the water isn’t prevented from coming into the wall itself as only the inside is sealed, so it just gets trapped in the wall, further degrading the structural integrity of the wall. I would get a foundation specialist out to assess the issue if you haven’t. Ideally you would have taken this step during the inspection contingency period but I’m assuming it’s too late for that now, so keep that in mind for next one I guess. Part of the reason I'd never buy a place sight-unseen but to each his own. Slapping some drylok on the inside, removing some plants and throwing some dirt on the outside may not be an adequate solution, in fact I'd be surprised if it works... possible legit solutions will be to dig up the yard to assess the outside of the foundation wall, and address the pressure issue by back filling around the wall properly, sealing the outside of the foundation wall (not the inside), improving the negative grading issue with more than just adding some loose dirt on top, and adding French drains. Depending on how long that much water has been entering the basement, you’ll want to look at the floor joists and check for mold/rot. If you’re planning to keep this property as a buy and hold I would address the foundation issue properly before it gets worse and leads to a more expensive repair down the road. Whoever did the walk through/inspection should have informed you of the possibility of foundation issues here and recommended having an expert take a look. 

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  • Realtor · Broomfield · Member since 2019 · 12 posts · 9 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring congratulations!

  • Real Estate Broker · Crystal River, FL · Member since 2017 · 27 posts · 11 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring

    Congratulations.

  • Investor · Newport Beach, CA · Member since 2018 · 74 posts · 35 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring congrats! And great job!

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Steve K. I did not have a foundation specialist look at the property prior to purchase. I will bring it up with my property manager and try to get someone out there to take a look. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Andrew Arce the 19k does include repairs. I set aside about $1500 that we estimated would be needed. So far I'm under budget.

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    Wow thanks to everyone for the kind words! I'm overwhelmed with all the positivity and humbled to hear that I've inspired some to pursue their first deal. This is why I love the BP community!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · West Des Moines, IA · Member since 2019 · 27 posts · 9 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring Man congrats! It's an awesome feeling. I closed on my first property last month and it's an amazing feeling to go from analysis to action.

    Good luck my friend!

  • Alexandria, VA · Member since 2017 · 22 posts · 12 votes
    6y
    Congrats. Are you going to self manage the property?
  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Keenan Pearson Hi Keenan. A HELOC is a Home Equity Line of Credit. Simply put, it's like a having a low interest credit card that you can use to borrow against the equity in your home. The most important thing to note when borrowing against your home like this is to make sure you run the numbers on the property you intend to purchase and allow yourself some room to be able to make the monthly payments.

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Danielle Moniz find a great team, build the trust (which will help build your confidence), and don't be afraid to make an offer. Best of luck!

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Chris Christensen thanks! I do plan on speaking with my property manager about getting a specialist out there to have a look. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Stacey Vilardi I'm working on bringing up the ARV and I'd eventually like to refi, but I don't think it'll be to the point where I can fully recover my initial investment. My original goal was to BRRRR to recover 100% of my capital at 6 months, but after months of searching with my realtor and no luck with the numbers on several properties, I decided I just needed to go for it and put in the 25% down payment on this one.

  • Rental Property Investor · Palm Desert ca · Member since 2016 · 101 posts · 72 votes
    6y

    This is awesome!! I am definitely interested in Ohio at some point.Some great deals to be found there. I totally agree with your comment regarding a great agent and PM. I invest out of state and this has been key to my success so far and ease with the process. Good luck and congratulations on taking the first step, it only gets easier from here!

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Daniel Mendez the repairs have all been performed by my property manager's crew that he uses for his and his other clients properties, so I'm able to get great rates and the work's done very quickly.

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Maj Valero personally I'd LOVE to invest in Orange County, but it's just too expensive for me right now. I have areas around the country where I'd love to invest, but I wanted to start in Toledo because I'm familiar with the city and my parents live about 30 minutes away. I'd suggest to do your research on any market you want to get into. Get a hold of some realtors in the area and ask for their opinions on the market. I asked around on BP and also looked on Zillow's agent finder for top performers. Let them know your goals and be specific about your criteria. Eventually you'll find the right person. Build trust by showing that you're a serious investor and eventually you're fear will turn into motivation. All it takes is getting that first deal.

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Cathy Cook I hear you on the analysis paralysis! I let it get me for about 2 years. I finally told myself to just do it!

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Todd Kruger thank you for the kind words!

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Tony Kim I agree 100%. Congrats on the duplex!

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Matthew Ewald it is an awesome feeling! Congrats on your property as well! Best of luck to you!

  • Rental Property Investor · Orange County, CA · Member since 2018 · 98 posts · 138 votes
    6y

    @Kata Walters thanks! Best of luck to you!

  • Engelo RumoraBusiness Member
    Investor · Toledo, OH · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    Dont panic over basement water .. worst case you get a french drain and sump pump installed

    Agreed mate.

    Water in basement's is common in Toledo.

    The fix is a $20,000+ foundation restructure which nobody really does.

    During very heavy rain we might get half an inch.

    Rarely more.

    Thanks 

  • Engelo RumoraBusiness Member
    Investor · Toledo, OH · Member since 2013 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    Nice we are (investing) neighbors.  I also have a duplex by UT on Wyndhurst.

     A birdy told me it's a top property :)

  • Armel BayotPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Walnut Creek, CA · Member since 2019 · 116 posts · 38 votes
    6y

    Congrats brother!

    I understand you used HELOC for the downpayment and initial repairs, how did you finance the rest of the deal?

    Did you use a local OH bank?

    Thanks.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2019 · 69 posts · 12 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring Nice job! Love that, if the numbers work and you have a good team, you should always be able to buy a property sight unseen!

  • Developer · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 29 posts · 8 votes
    6y

    @Justin Wotring Congratulations !!

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