First Buy & Hold property in Baltimore market area.

First Buy & Hold property in Baltimore market area.

Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes

I will be closing on my first buy and hold 3/1 rowhome in Brooklyn Park. Thought I would share my experiences throughout this process. This is by no means a homerun deal, however the lessons learnt and that I will continue to learn throughout this deal is far more important. Those lessons will give me the momentum/traction to launch into much better deals.

Summary

Purchase Price: $108,700

Down payment: 20% (using conventional financing for investment property)

Loan amount: $86,960 at fixed 4% interest for 30 years

Closing Cost: $8202 

Appraisal fee: $445 (including in closing cost above)

Home Inspection: $375

Sewer scope: $250

Boiler Inspection: $60

Estimated rehab: $30K (to be covered by personal line of credit)

Where did I find the Property?

The property was listed on the MLS for $115K as a "hot home". I toured the property with my agent the first day it came on the MLS and there were three other groups waiting outside to tour the property as well.

Making the Offer

The importance of not making an emotional offer came into play as I was getting ready to make a $120K (even though ARV was estimated at $150K+ and rehab about $25K) offer based on the attention I saw the house was getting. However, based on counsel from my agent we decided to wait seven days to see if the property would go pending. it never went pending so we made an offer at $110K with a $3500 EMD and seller countered at $112,500 which I accepted because there was still an inspection and appraisal clause in my contract.

General Home Inspection & Sewer Scope

A home inspection and sewer scope were completed which highlighted some things that needed repairs/updates. Circuit breaker had aluminum branch wiring, GFCI in bathroom not grounded, oil fired boiler is 72 years old (still functioning nevertheless), low water flow due to galvanized water supply lines which needs replacing and adding rails to basement staircase. With inspection in hand we asked for seller to make repairs outlined in report and they offered $2400 in credit instead and we countered at $4800, which they came back at $3800 and I accepted. However, I had the seller take it off the purchase price and now the new purchase price was $108,700.

Appraisal

Appraisal was ordered by my lender and the house appraised for $115K, which I was hoping it came in lower than purchase price so that I could negotiate more. Lesson learnt here was negotiate up front rather than waiting, hence I bought the book "Never split the difference".

Renovation

Initial rehab estimate is $30K and I am budgeting $35K factoring reserves and other miscellaneous items.

Market Rent

Home beside subject property rents for $1200/mth AS-IS and home across street that was updated rents for $1500/mth. albeit with an additional room in the basement. Market rent in area based on property managers I have asked, they are saying $1200 - $1600/mth.

Next Steps

Given the all clear from the lender to close and will be closing on Monday 11/16 and rehab begins Tuesday 11/17.

Lessons learnt

Closing cost is not cheap, I will ensure next time I negotiate with seller to split this entire cost and not only taxes and recordation fees.

I bought this in my personal name and learnt that in order to get an umbrella insurance your other general liability coverage for your assets has to be at a stipulated minimum in order to be covered by umbrella. I learnt after 3 years my car was under insured all this time and I would need to increase my coverage in order to get umbrella insurance.

Be bullish with negotiating up front and "never split the difference" but at the same time finding a common ground is important.

Provide contractor with a detailed SOW, DO NOT JUST SAY IT, WRITE IT!

Stick to your numbers and do not deviate.

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    Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 86 posts · 86 votes
    5y

    @Tyrone Marson mostly turnkey. The renovations I have done are small, between 2k and 7k. Usual purchase price is between 130k to 160k. For instance I bought one for 160k, 7k in rehab. Rented for 1954 first year and now is renting for 2045. I have a section 8 tenant in that one who pays 0 copay so the rent is guaranteed by the state government as well. There are small hoa dues typically on these so something to be aware of.

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    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y
    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y
    • Investor · Naples, FL · Member since 2020 · 26 posts · 31 votes
      5y

      Great job! Your agent gave you good advice and you're learning valuable lessons all along the way. Good luck with the renovation!

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Jamie Mason thank you very much. I document the progress here.

    • Real Estate Agent · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2020 · 19 posts · 9 votes
      5y

      @Tyrone Marson Nice work! Would love to chat about your experience in the Baltimore City market! 

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Nkosi Groover thanks much. I am definitely still learning the Baltimore City market. However, the city did not align with what I wanted and hence this property is on the County side of Baltimore and not the City. The city is a different beast.

    • Real Estate Agent · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2020 · 19 posts · 9 votes
      5y

      @Tyrone Marson Understood, from what I've heard the city is a pretty risky market. I intended to invest in the Baltimore market, and after a couple of calls with realtors/brokers, it seems it would be a bit stressful to manage the long distance. 

      Regardless I wish the best to you moving forward, can't wait to hear more successes!

    • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 86 posts · 86 votes
      5y

      @Nkosi Groover it depends on where in Baltimore. I have row homes in middle river and essex and they are pretty nice areas. Closing costs are huge in Baltimore because you pay transfer taxes and taxes in general are pretty high, but rental yields are phenomenal. I cash flow between $500 - $800 per property over there buying with conventional loans, and that’s using a property manager.

    • Real Estate Agent · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2020 · 19 posts · 9 votes
      5y

      @Matthew M. Thanks for the insight!

      I will more than likely deep dive into Baltimore again, as I am currently investing in the Tampa Bay/St. Petersburg, FL area.  I am predicting to scale out to Baltimore within a year or two. Would love to chat, to hear more about what strategies you are using for your deals in Baltimore. 

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Matthew M. Middle River and Essex are on the Baltimore County side.

    • Fairfax, VA · Member since 2017 · 183 posts · 58 votes
      5y

      @Tyrone Marson. The property looks pretty good. I have a bunch of investments in the county. A couple of questions.

      What improvements are you making? what does the 35k entitle.

      Have you thought about section 8 renting?

      What is the basement situation? Are you planning to add a bath and turn the basement into a room?

    • Member since 2020 · 80 posts · 66 votes
      5y

      @Tyrone Marson congratulations on your first deal! I haven't looked at Brooklyn much. I live here in Baltimore city and haven't spent much time over there. I'm interested to hear about how the rest of your deal turns out! 

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Daniel Suarez for the kitchen I am putting in new cabinets, SS appliances (range, microwave, fridge), level 1 granite countertop, tile backsplash, LED light fixture. Bathroom: new vanity sink, vanity lights, drywall because the wall tiles are falling out, shower tile surround. LVP flooring throughout top floor, paint the entire interior. I will not be adding a room and bathroom in basement. I will also change out all light fixtures in the house. All tenants (voucher/private) are welcomed to apply once they meet the minimum qualifications. Do you have any of your properties in Brooklyn Park?

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Gayle Melnick thanks. I started my search in the city and quickly realized that for my price range it was pushing me into neighborhoods that were probably low C/D and the taxes while they were cheap kinda tells you the property values weren’t as good. As property taxes in Baltimore City is 2.2% of assessed value, which doubles that of the county.

    • Ozzy SirimsiBusiness Member
      Real Estate Agent · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 782 votes
      5y

      Congrats Tyrone!!!

      If you have not finished your Kitchen renovation, I import kitchen cabinets for my own business, and sell them as well. I can get you a " investor price" if interested.

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Ozzy Sirimsi thank you.

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Matthew M. do you cashflow $500 - $800 on turnkey properties or you renovate them?

    • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 86 posts · 86 votes
      5y

      @Tyrone Marson mostly turnkey. The renovations I have done are small, between 2k and 7k. Usual purchase price is between 130k to 160k. For instance I bought one for 160k, 7k in rehab. Rented for 1954 first year and now is renting for 2045. I have a section 8 tenant in that one who pays 0 copay so the rent is guaranteed by the state government as well. There are small hoa dues typically on these so something to be aware of.

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Matthew M. I am assuming you don’t have much equity outside of your downpayment.

    • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 86 posts · 86 votes
      5y
      Originally posted by @Tyrone Marson:

      @Matthew M. I am assuming you don’t have much equity outside of your downpayment.

      That is correct.  It's mostly a cash flow play for me in this area.

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Matthew M. Got you. My intent is also to have some equity outside of my downpayment so that I can pull a HELOC for the downpayment of the next deal.

    • Member since 2020 · 671 posts · 937 votes
      5y

      @Tyrone Marson

      That was a pleasure to read and thanks for sharing.  What jumps out at me is how much your write up indicates you are learning and the sense of pride and accomplishment
      that goes along with it.  Stories like these pump me up, so thanks for that!

      The pics look great.  Good luck!

    • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2020 · 223 posts · 89 votes
      5y

      @Chris John thanks much. I will post the progress here

    • Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 86 posts · 86 votes
      5y
      Originally posted by @Tyrone Marson:

      @Matthew M. Got you. My intent is also to have some equity outside of my downpayment so that I can pull a HELOC for the downpayment of the next deal.

      That's a solid plan and it took me a while to start thinking that way but I think it is the key to building long term wealth through Real Estate.  Good Luck.

    • Investor · Fort Washington, MD · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      5y

      I have one over in Brooklyn and one in Curtis Bay. Nice job. Welcome to the neighborhood. 

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