First post here, so I really appreciate the patience!
I'm curious to know how often property managers actively suggest value-add activities for properties (ie, building an ADU, remodeling, buy-fix-hold opportunities etc etc).
Residential Real Estate Agent · Irvine, CA · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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I would say that 95% of PMs will not talk about adding value to properties are adding more to your bottomline/top line. These are people that are property managers not asset managers. Asset manager role would be to give advice on property that could be value added and increase the income on a property by small or big tweaks. It's like a syndication operator verse a money manager. These people are built to value add deals, you would have to look hard for these people in your market and probably pay them top end pricing to get your properties performing amazingly well!
Interesting question. I've been managing for 15 years and have helped a couple owners change/expand their portfolio. One of my clients has added about 50 doors through me. However, I haven't been deliberate or proactive.
That's all changing today! I now monitor the owner's equity, return on investment, and other factors and then proactively reach out when they are ripe for selling, exchanging, or adding doors.
Residential Real Estate Agent · Irvine, CA · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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I would say that 95% of PMs will not talk about adding value to properties are adding more to your bottomline/top line. These are people that are property managers not asset managers. Asset manager role would be to give advice on property that could be value added and increase the income on a property by small or big tweaks. It's like a syndication operator verse a money manager. These people are built to value add deals, you would have to look hard for these people in your market and probably pay them top end pricing to get your properties performing amazingly well!
Thank you Peter - I certainly understand the difference, and I'm seeing the same in my area as well. I'm happy to hear my experience isn't unique!
I would have to imagine folks who are competent enough to represent this type of value-add are typically focusing on larger opportunities than small to mid-size SFR portfolios.
Real Estate Broker · Cape Coral, FL · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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One of the best times to implement value add is when there is turnover so that is typically when the owners hear from us. We often give owners advice before the turnover letting them know that if we turned over the tenant, how we could improve the property, at what cost, and what the rents would improve to. We only do this when we see opportunity, not when the property is already maxed out.
Adam - Thank you for the thoughtful response and my follow up would be to ask when you would consider a property "maxed out". In other words, how aggressive are you in recommending things like:
"Hey mr./mrs. Property Owner, you have an extra 1000 square feet with enough setback to add a 500 sqft ADU on this lot. I would recommend increasing revenue density this way, etc etc."
The question behind the question is that I'm trying to figure out how to communicate with property owners that have under-utilized assets. So how do I socialize the benefit of doing something like taking a 200k ADU construction loan to add $X in top line and $Y after servicing the new note, but with an increased property value etc etc?
Any guidance here would be amazing - thank you so much!
Property Manager · Tacoma, WA · Member since 2024 · 60 posts · 39 votes
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Good question to ask when screening a PM is if they are real estate investors themselves.
If you want a PM to be proactive or knowledgeable on where/when to add value (asset management assistance), find one that is an investor. Then ask them specifically if they help with this sort of thing.
Oftentimes owners of businesses want their employees to "think like an owner." That's a common phrase.
Real estate investors can get more bang for their buck from their PMs when these folks "think like an investor."
Developer · New Brunswick, NJ · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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I email our entire portfolio each year and offer to know what their goals are and how we can get them there. I work with a handful of clients each year on the acquisition and construction side and help them make an enormous amount of wealth on top of managing their properties here in NJ.
If you treat your PM like a company that just unclogs a toilet then you're really short changing yourself.