Why Getting The Right Tenant Initially is Far Better than Evicting a Bad One Later

Why Getting The Right Tenant Initially is Far Better than Evicting a Bad One Later

Andy SabischPro Member
Investor · Jackson, MS · Member since 2021 · 657 posts · 559 votes

Well, wanted to share our experience of evicting a tenant . . . and share some painful lessons.

We use Zillow Rental Manager to post vacancies and have used their Background Check to evaluate potential tenants. Well, in hindsight and doing some research, that is no longer our approach. We received an application and the report looked fine . . . no evictions, no criminal issues, credit score was acceptable – just what you want in a tenant no? The first month rent was paid before move in and the second month is where the issues began. We received a message from the wife through our rental management portal that the rent would be late because the husband was serving a 30-day jail sentence . . . but she assured us that the rent would be fully paid up as well as the third month by the end of the second month. She asked for us to be understanding as she had two small kids and there was our second mistake (first was relying on Zillow’s report) – we failed to treat the rental as a business and let emotion come into play. As cold as it might sound, we should have told her that we felt badly for her but the rent was due on the 3rd and the lease clearly states when eviction action would be taken, i.e., on the 10th. We allowed things to slip and of course the second- and third-month payments were not made as promised because they had other bills that needed to be paid when he was released.

So, on the 10th of the third month, we invoked the legal action clause and in PA, they have 10 days to cure or it goes to the magistrate. On the 10th with no payment, we filed with the magistrate. On the 18th, he pays the outstanding rent and late charge which stops the legal clock. Do you think we received payment for the following month as required? Of course not and this time we filed with the magistrate on the 20th of the month. We had the hearing and the magistrate ruled that we were entitled to take possession (an eviction) of the property. We thought this was the end of the story but we found out that in PA (maybe other states as well), the tenant can contest the ruling to the Court of Common Pleas and request a formal hearing. In the interim the tenant is required to deposit the rent in an escrow account with the court with a caveat. He claimed poverty as he was working a seasonable job, so the court allowed him to make weekly payments to cover the rent.

The court was backed up so a hearing date was not set at the time, and we were told it could be up to 60 days – all the while he was in the property and we were not getting a dime. We engaged our attorney and paid him a retainer to assist with the mess. He monitored the escrow payments and when the tenant failed to meet the court ordered payment plan, he went to the court and had the agreement nullified and a possession ordered issued. It went to the magistrate we had been before to have the constable serve the tenant with the eviction order. Well, the tenant has clearly done this before (and we confirmed this later based on a search of the court records) because he had filed a complaint with the judiciary review board claiming the magistrate was friends with us and ruled against him for that reason. We did not know the magistrate but as a result, the magistrate had to transfer the eviction order to another magistrate to serve the eviction resulting in more time passing with no action. We were not informed of this change of venue, and it took our attorney to find out where it was. The new magistrate took 2 weeks to get the papers to the constable and at this point, we are still waiting for the tenant to be served.

So, they have been living in our property that we have to make payments on and have only given us a security deposit and three months of rent for 8 months being in there. What lessons did we learn?

1) Do not rely on the legal system to get a problem tenant out – there are professional deadbeat tenants that know how to play the system and in most cases, the legal system is completely inept and will fail to support you.

2) Do not rely on the background checks offered by sites such as Zillow or even some of the rent management portals. We found out that criminal cases and evictions do not always tie to an SSN and searches come up clean. In our case, had we simply done a Google search, we would not have rented to this induvial as the first hit brought up a picture of him in handcuffs at his booking for theft by taking among other charges. Use Google, the sex offender’s registry and the court sites of your county / state as they will give you what you need to make a more informed decision. In this case there were 6 criminal records in the court database.

3) Keep your rental strictly business. The minute you deviate from your lease, you are doomed. At times it is painful to tell a tenant they are facing eviction but emotion will cause you more problems than you can imagine. The old saying “Give then an inch and they take a mile” comes to mind.

4) If it takes more showings to get the right tenant, take the time because Lesson #1 above will come back to haunt you otherwise.

5) Tighten up your lease to make it iron clad in your favor. Make sure it is legal in your area but short is better and ensure you get ALL tenants over 18 to sign it before handing them the keys.

6) If you do not have a solid real estate attorney that deals with LANDLORD rights, find one. You want to be able to call and get through when an issue comes up and not start looking at that point.

7) Here is s simple litmus test . . . ask the potential tenant for the name and phone number of their current landlord. If they say they have been living in their parent basement or will not give you that information, you have your answer. You may not call and follow-up but if they will not give you that information, in 99% of the time you have your answer.

Sorry for the long post but wanted to help others avoid the pain we have experienced over the past months!

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Drew SygitBusiness Member
Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
6mo
Quote from @Andy Sabisch:

Well, wanted to share our experience of evicting a tenant . . . and share some painful lessons.

We use Zillow Rental Manager to post vacancies and have used their Background Check to evaluate potential tenants. Well, in hindsight and doing some research, that is no longer our approach. We received an application and the report looked fine . . . no evictions, no criminal issues, credit score was acceptable – just what you want in a tenant no? The first month rent was paid before move in and the second month is where the issues began. We received a message from the wife through our rental management portal that the rent would be late because the husband was serving a 30-day jail sentence . . . but she assured us that the rent would be fully paid up as well as the third month by the end of the second month. She asked for us to be understanding as she had two small kids and there was our second mistake (first was relying on Zillow’s report) – we failed to treat the rental as a business and let emotion come into play. As cold as it might sound, we should have told her that we felt badly for her but the rent was due on the 3rd and the lease clearly states when eviction action would be taken, i.e., on the 10th. We allowed things to slip and of course the second- and third-month payments were not made as promised because they had other bills that needed to be paid when he was released.

So, on the 10th of the third month, we invoked the legal action clause and in PA, they have 10 days to cure or it goes to the magistrate. On the 10th with no payment, we filed with the magistrate. On the 18th, he pays the outstanding rent and late charge which stops the legal clock. Do you think we received payment for the following month as required? Of course not and this time we filed with the magistrate on the 20th of the month. We had the hearing and the magistrate ruled that we were entitled to take possession (an eviction) of the property. We thought this was the end of the story but we found out that in PA (maybe other states as well), the tenant can contest the ruling to the Court of Common Pleas and request a formal hearing. In the interim the tenant is required to deposit the rent in an escrow account with the court with a caveat. He claimed poverty as he was working a seasonable job, so the court allowed him to make weekly payments to cover the rent.

The court was backed up so a hearing date was not set at the time, and we were told it could be up to 60 days – all the while he was in the property and we were not getting a dime. We engaged our attorney and paid him a retainer to assist with the mess. He monitored the escrow payments and when the tenant failed to meet the court ordered payment plan, he went to the court and had the agreement nullified and a possession ordered issued. It went to the magistrate we had been before to have the constable serve the tenant with the eviction order. Well, the tenant has clearly done this before (and we confirmed this later based on a search of the court records) because he had filed a complaint with the judiciary review board claiming the magistrate was friends with us and ruled against him for that reason. We did not know the magistrate but as a result, the magistrate had to transfer the eviction order to another magistrate to serve the eviction resulting in more time passing with no action. We were not informed of this change of venue, and it took our attorney to find out where it was. The new magistrate took 2 weeks to get the papers to the constable and at this point, we are still waiting for the tenant to be served.

So, they have been living in our property that we have to make payments on and have only given us a security deposit and three months of rent for 8 months being in there. What lessons did we learn?

1) Do not rely on the legal system to get a problem tenant out – there are professional deadbeat tenants that know how to play the system and in most cases, the legal system is completely inept and will fail to support you.

2) Do not rely on the background checks offered by sites such as Zillow or even some of the rent management portals. We found out that criminal cases and evictions do not always tie to an SSN and searches come up clean. In our case, had we simply done a Google search, we would not have rented to this induvial as the first hit brought up a picture of him in handcuffs at his booking for theft by taking among other charges. Use Google, the sex offender’s registry and the court sites of your county / state as they will give you what you need to make a more informed decision. In this case there were 6 criminal records in the court database.

3) Keep your rental strictly business. The minute you deviate from your lease, you are doomed. At times it is painful to tell a tenant they are facing eviction but emotion will cause you more problems than you can imagine. The old saying “Give then an inch and they take a mile” comes to mind.

4) If it takes more showings to get the right tenant, take the time because Lesson #1 above will come back to haunt you otherwise.

5) Tighten up your lease to make it iron clad in your favor. Make sure it is legal in your area but short is better and ensure you get ALL tenants over 18 to sign it before handing them the keys.

6) If you do not have a solid real estate attorney that deals with LANDLORD rights, find one. You want to be able to call and get through when an issue comes up and not start looking at that point.

7) Here is s simple litmus test . . . ask the potential tenant for the name and phone number of their current landlord. If they say they have been living in their parent basement or will not give you that information, you have your answer. You may not call and follow-up but if they will not give you that information, in 99% of the time you have your answer.

Sorry for the long post but wanted to help others avoid the pain we have experienced over the past months!

 Interesting that everyone posting is saying how sorry they are you had to go through this😥

I'm not sorry😘

YOU created your own mess! 

I agree with @Richard F. statement about how hilarious some of the DIY landlord posts are about, "How easy property management is".🤔

You just found out it's not.

More DIY landlords need the "education" you just went through!!!!

FYI: I would share this same message with my younger, naive self!

Then, maybe you'd all be more vocal in opposing the, "Tenant Bill of Rights" crap that deadbeat SLUMTENANTS are promoting.

I'm now off my soapbox and you can return to your mundane lives...

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  • Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6mo
    Unfortunately, that is often the kind of lesson investor's need to learn. Some of the posts on this site are hilarious, with people going on and on about "how easy" this PM stuff is. 

    Sorry you had such a rough time, but trust me, as a retired PM of 30 years, the lessons never stop coming! I had one similar "pro" that stayed on our dime for several months, then when the Sheriff was on site and starting to escort him and his squeeze off the property, he faked a heart attack, falling to the ground! Of course the Sheriff had to call EMS, and rescheduled the eviction for 10 days later. Of course, the deadbeat was back in the unit within 4 hours of his "heart attack". 

    The lessons should be, be proactive, not reactive. Screening is the single most important task you have as a PM. "Scores", whether FICO or otherwise, are largely meaningless for purposes of a Long Term Rental. It IS one piece of the puzzle you need to piece together, but it's direct weight is inconsequential. What IS important, is what goes into arriving at that score? You need to thoroughly investigate everything you get your hands on, and make sure everything fits with everything else. There should not be random residence addresses that are only on one document. There should not be gaps in employment without explanation. Recent address reported by applicant should also be on most recent pay stub, bank statement or other current documents. Never trust the "reference" names or HR phone numbers provided, find your way to those "through the front door".

    It is good you recognize that all adults need to submit applications, and sign the Rental Agreement and other docs. Co-signers are processed the exact same way, except named on the agreement as "guarantor only". Also list names and ages of minors, so you can add their signatures as they reach the age of majority for your State.

    Establish solid standards and processes, and stick with them. Exceptions always cause problems, not the least of which could be a discrimination complaint. Key Policies should be in writing, with copies provided to applicants. Pets, Assistance Animals, Occupancy, Quiet Hours, Vehicle registration and insurance, Acceptable payment methods, Late Fees, and others applicable to the property. Review the Rental Agreement key points and policies with approved Tenants prior to signing. 

    Be sure the unit is thoroughly prepped, with everything fully functional and cleaned. Preventative adjustments/repairs are faster and cheaper than dealing with the next Tenant 2 weeks after they move in.

    Better Luck with your next prospect! 
  • David PeschioBusiness Member
    Richmond, VA · Member since 2019 · 356 posts · 180 votes
    6mo

    Great post and sorry you had to go through that. @Richard F. - I totally agree with you - only easy when things are going smoothly. When you run into something like this, you realize the complexities of being a landlord.

  • Member since 2011 · 152 posts · 113 votes
    6mo

    I've said it many times that developing the skill of tenant selection is paramount to having a "good time" in this business. You may be good at finding deals, financing deals, evaluating deals, fixing up property, maintaining property, running your office, etc, but if you don't get the right tenants, things are not going to go well.

  • Peter MckernanBusiness Member
    Residential Real Estate Agent · Irvine, CA · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6mo

    Sorry to hear this one and to see you go through it. I have never been happy with Zillow apps/background checks/screening. I have seen the applications come back and I feel like there is a lot of information missing. Just the other day, there was someone that applied to a property that we took on for management, and it first went to the owner since he had it on Zillow as it was going to transfer to us. So, he sent it to use. We reviewed it and asked for supporting documents (paystubs, bank statements) to review with the application. We asked multiple times and the person never got back to us, which shows that it might have been a fraudulent app. I know it is not 100%, but we use rent spree that gives us a lot of information and details. We do all our due diligence off that, calling the current landlord and their last landlord. Also, getting HR/employment to give us a written reference and confirmation they are there working. Rentspree allows the tenant to add their bank account and paystubs but we ask for these to be sent directly to us. You can never trust everything 100% in the digital age. Also, evictions at times do not show up on backgrounds for 60 days, so you need to be aware and be calling these landlords and the old landlords (looking them up too).

    There is an option/companies out there if you pay $15-$30 a month you can have rental loss insurance. This gives you a long runway to cover lost rent if they are putting you through the professional tenant situation like you went through with an 7-8 month painstaking eviction. And yes, hire a solid no BS attorney. One of my friends had leased a place out as a mid-term, and the people that moved in were professional tenants. He hired 2 different attorneys that basically charged him a lot for really no work at all due to not getting the tenants out. He went with an attorney I recommend and the people were out within 3-4 months with low costs. 

    All-in-all, this is an art and it needs to be learned, even if you have been doing it for awhile things happen. Sorry to hear you went through this one! This makes you stronger for the next application and more vigilant. 

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  • Investor · Costa Mesa, CA · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6mo

    Not everyone has the constitution to run their rentals as a business. Its why real estate investing isn't for everyone. 

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    6mo
    Quote from @Andy Sabisch:

    Well, wanted to share our experience of evicting a tenant . . . and share some painful lessons.

    We use Zillow Rental Manager to post vacancies and have used their Background Check to evaluate potential tenants. Well, in hindsight and doing some research, that is no longer our approach. We received an application and the report looked fine . . . no evictions, no criminal issues, credit score was acceptable – just what you want in a tenant no? The first month rent was paid before move in and the second month is where the issues began. We received a message from the wife through our rental management portal that the rent would be late because the husband was serving a 30-day jail sentence . . . but she assured us that the rent would be fully paid up as well as the third month by the end of the second month. She asked for us to be understanding as she had two small kids and there was our second mistake (first was relying on Zillow’s report) – we failed to treat the rental as a business and let emotion come into play. As cold as it might sound, we should have told her that we felt badly for her but the rent was due on the 3rd and the lease clearly states when eviction action would be taken, i.e., on the 10th. We allowed things to slip and of course the second- and third-month payments were not made as promised because they had other bills that needed to be paid when he was released.

    So, on the 10th of the third month, we invoked the legal action clause and in PA, they have 10 days to cure or it goes to the magistrate. On the 10th with no payment, we filed with the magistrate. On the 18th, he pays the outstanding rent and late charge which stops the legal clock. Do you think we received payment for the following month as required? Of course not and this time we filed with the magistrate on the 20th of the month. We had the hearing and the magistrate ruled that we were entitled to take possession (an eviction) of the property. We thought this was the end of the story but we found out that in PA (maybe other states as well), the tenant can contest the ruling to the Court of Common Pleas and request a formal hearing. In the interim the tenant is required to deposit the rent in an escrow account with the court with a caveat. He claimed poverty as he was working a seasonable job, so the court allowed him to make weekly payments to cover the rent.

    The court was backed up so a hearing date was not set at the time, and we were told it could be up to 60 days – all the while he was in the property and we were not getting a dime. We engaged our attorney and paid him a retainer to assist with the mess. He monitored the escrow payments and when the tenant failed to meet the court ordered payment plan, he went to the court and had the agreement nullified and a possession ordered issued. It went to the magistrate we had been before to have the constable serve the tenant with the eviction order. Well, the tenant has clearly done this before (and we confirmed this later based on a search of the court records) because he had filed a complaint with the judiciary review board claiming the magistrate was friends with us and ruled against him for that reason. We did not know the magistrate but as a result, the magistrate had to transfer the eviction order to another magistrate to serve the eviction resulting in more time passing with no action. We were not informed of this change of venue, and it took our attorney to find out where it was. The new magistrate took 2 weeks to get the papers to the constable and at this point, we are still waiting for the tenant to be served.

    So, they have been living in our property that we have to make payments on and have only given us a security deposit and three months of rent for 8 months being in there. What lessons did we learn?

    1) Do not rely on the legal system to get a problem tenant out – there are professional deadbeat tenants that know how to play the system and in most cases, the legal system is completely inept and will fail to support you.

    2) Do not rely on the background checks offered by sites such as Zillow or even some of the rent management portals. We found out that criminal cases and evictions do not always tie to an SSN and searches come up clean. In our case, had we simply done a Google search, we would not have rented to this induvial as the first hit brought up a picture of him in handcuffs at his booking for theft by taking among other charges. Use Google, the sex offender’s registry and the court sites of your county / state as they will give you what you need to make a more informed decision. In this case there were 6 criminal records in the court database.

    3) Keep your rental strictly business. The minute you deviate from your lease, you are doomed. At times it is painful to tell a tenant they are facing eviction but emotion will cause you more problems than you can imagine. The old saying “Give then an inch and they take a mile” comes to mind.

    4) If it takes more showings to get the right tenant, take the time because Lesson #1 above will come back to haunt you otherwise.

    5) Tighten up your lease to make it iron clad in your favor. Make sure it is legal in your area but short is better and ensure you get ALL tenants over 18 to sign it before handing them the keys.

    6) If you do not have a solid real estate attorney that deals with LANDLORD rights, find one. You want to be able to call and get through when an issue comes up and not start looking at that point.

    7) Here is s simple litmus test . . . ask the potential tenant for the name and phone number of their current landlord. If they say they have been living in their parent basement or will not give you that information, you have your answer. You may not call and follow-up but if they will not give you that information, in 99% of the time you have your answer.

    Sorry for the long post but wanted to help others avoid the pain we have experienced over the past months!

     Interesting that everyone posting is saying how sorry they are you had to go through this😥

    I'm not sorry😘

    YOU created your own mess! 

    I agree with @Richard F. statement about how hilarious some of the DIY landlord posts are about, "How easy property management is".🤔

    You just found out it's not.

    More DIY landlords need the "education" you just went through!!!!

    FYI: I would share this same message with my younger, naive self!

    Then, maybe you'd all be more vocal in opposing the, "Tenant Bill of Rights" crap that deadbeat SLUMTENANTS are promoting.

    I'm now off my soapbox and you can return to your mundane lives...

    • Andy SabischPro Member
      OP
      Investor · Jackson, MS · Member since 2021 · 657 posts · 559 votes
      6mo
      First, your self righteous preachy post was uncalled for.  Ever hear if the reader before hitting enter concept.  You don't know we or how we handle rentals or conduct management.  We have had one problem in years of rental management so unless you have been 100% successful in all of your projects, the comments you made are uncalled for.  Even our attorney who teaches real estate law over 35 years has never seen this collection of issues which is why I shared them here ... maybe you need to reflect on the purpose of Bigger Pockets 
    • Drew SygitBusiness Member
      Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 9k+ votes
      6mo
      Quote from @Andy Sabisch:
      First, your self righteous preachy post was uncalled for.  Ever hear if the reader before hitting enter concept.  You don't know we or how we handle rentals or conduct management.  We have had one problem in years of rental management so unless you have been 100% successful in all of your projects, the comments you made are uncalled for.  Even our attorney who teaches real estate law over 35 years has never seen this collection of issues which is why I shared them here ... maybe you need to reflect on the purpose of Bigger Pockets 

      Biggest mistake was you went for the easy path of relying on Zillow for tenant screening - a common mistake.

      Still, you made the choice.

      NO ONE is 100% successful in this business if they stay in it long emough.

      Your 2nd biggest mistake was falling for a tenant "cry story" and not starting the eviction process. 
      - You can start the eviction process w/o following through with it if you want to work with a tenant who SHOWS integrity.

      KUDOS FOR YOU for sharing your experience and wish it was mandatory reading for all landlords here on BP,

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2019 · 5k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    6mo

    So this guy has no criminal history - signs the lease - then gets a 30 day jail sentence???

    Then he gets out and gets a seasonal job???

    It seems like there's no way predict that during tenant selection??? 

    • Honolulu, HI · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
      6mo
      Quote from @Scott Mac:

      So this guy has no criminal history - signs the lease - then gets a 30 day jail sentence???

      Then he gets out and gets a seasonal job???

      It seems like there's no way predict that during tenant selection??? 

      Without seeing the actual documents that the OP was able to review, it may have been either poor reporting by their sources, or a lax screening criteria. I've personally reviewed several thousand Rental Applications over 30 plus years, and there is very nearly always, telltale signs if you have good information. Typically, Bad Habits exist across all areas of a person's background...financial, employment, housing, legal (including traffic Court), and social media. One area that is NOT possible to adequately review is Medical, or, more accurately, Psychological. 
      Certainly, some Court Jurisdictions provide more or better info than others, but all the more reason to dig into all of the other areas, including a basic name search including the Town, City, or State that can turn up news stories or other random bits to add to the puzzle that is the application process. 
  • Member since 2025 · 91 posts · 55 votes
    6mo

    @Andy Sabisch so sorry you went through this! I wanted to pipe up and say sometimes services like EZ Evict can be more affordable to those self-managing than a proper lawyer and can work just as well. 

  • Ryan SpathBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Boise, ID · Member since 2017 · 554 posts · 374 votes
    6mo
    Quote from @Andy Sabisch:

    Well, wanted to share our experience of evicting a tenant . . . and share some painful lessons.

    We use Zillow Rental Manager to post vacancies and have used their Background Check to evaluate potential tenants. Well, in hindsight and doing some research, that is no longer our approach. We received an application and the report looked fine . . . no evictions, no criminal issues, credit score was acceptable – just what you want in a tenant no? The first month rent was paid before move in and the second month is where the issues began. We received a message from the wife through our rental management portal that the rent would be late because the husband was serving a 30-day jail sentence . . . but she assured us that the rent would be fully paid up as well as the third month by the end of the second month. She asked for us to be understanding as she had two small kids and there was our second mistake (first was relying on Zillow’s report) – we failed to treat the rental as a business and let emotion come into play. As cold as it might sound, we should have told her that we felt badly for her but the rent was due on the 3rd and the lease clearly states when eviction action would be taken, i.e., on the 10th. We allowed things to slip and of course the second- and third-month payments were not made as promised because they had other bills that needed to be paid when he was released.

    So, on the 10th of the third month, we invoked the legal action clause and in PA, they have 10 days to cure or it goes to the magistrate. On the 10th with no payment, we filed with the magistrate. On the 18th, he pays the outstanding rent and late charge which stops the legal clock. Do you think we received payment for the following month as required? Of course not and this time we filed with the magistrate on the 20th of the month. We had the hearing and the magistrate ruled that we were entitled to take possession (an eviction) of the property. We thought this was the end of the story but we found out that in PA (maybe other states as well), the tenant can contest the ruling to the Court of Common Pleas and request a formal hearing. In the interim the tenant is required to deposit the rent in an escrow account with the court with a caveat. He claimed poverty as he was working a seasonable job, so the court allowed him to make weekly payments to cover the rent.

    The court was backed up so a hearing date was not set at the time, and we were told it could be up to 60 days – all the while he was in the property and we were not getting a dime. We engaged our attorney and paid him a retainer to assist with the mess. He monitored the escrow payments and when the tenant failed to meet the court ordered payment plan, he went to the court and had the agreement nullified and a possession ordered issued. It went to the magistrate we had been before to have the constable serve the tenant with the eviction order. Well, the tenant has clearly done this before (and we confirmed this later based on a search of the court records) because he had filed a complaint with the judiciary review board claiming the magistrate was friends with us and ruled against him for that reason. We did not know the magistrate but as a result, the magistrate had to transfer the eviction order to another magistrate to serve the eviction resulting in more time passing with no action. We were not informed of this change of venue, and it took our attorney to find out where it was. The new magistrate took 2 weeks to get the papers to the constable and at this point, we are still waiting for the tenant to be served.

    So, they have been living in our property that we have to make payments on and have only given us a security deposit and three months of rent for 8 months being in there. What lessons did we learn?

    1) Do not rely on the legal system to get a problem tenant out – there are professional deadbeat tenants that know how to play the system and in most cases, the legal system is completely inept and will fail to support you.

    2) Do not rely on the background checks offered by sites such as Zillow or even some of the rent management portals. We found out that criminal cases and evictions do not always tie to an SSN and searches come up clean. In our case, had we simply done a Google search, we would not have rented to this induvial as the first hit brought up a picture of him in handcuffs at his booking for theft by taking among other charges. Use Google, the sex offender’s registry and the court sites of your county / state as they will give you what you need to make a more informed decision. In this case there were 6 criminal records in the court database.

    3) Keep your rental strictly business. The minute you deviate from your lease, you are doomed. At times it is painful to tell a tenant they are facing eviction but emotion will cause you more problems than you can imagine. The old saying “Give then an inch and they take a mile” comes to mind.

    4) If it takes more showings to get the right tenant, take the time because Lesson #1 above will come back to haunt you otherwise.

    5) Tighten up your lease to make it iron clad in your favor. Make sure it is legal in your area but short is better and ensure you get ALL tenants over 18 to sign it before handing them the keys.

    6) If you do not have a solid real estate attorney that deals with LANDLORD rights, find one. You want to be able to call and get through when an issue comes up and not start looking at that point.

    7) Here is s simple litmus test . . . ask the potential tenant for the name and phone number of their current landlord. If they say they have been living in their parent basement or will not give you that information, you have your answer. You may not call and follow-up but if they will not give you that information, in 99% of the time you have your answer.

    Sorry for the long post but wanted to help others avoid the pain we have experienced over the past months!


     Thanks for sharing this, sharing losses on this site is the best way others can learn. I appreciate you making yourself vulnerable in efforts of helping others! Here's to tightening the systems and learning for the next one..

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