Launch Your Leads Scam
Member since 2023 · 18 posts · 9 votes
Launch Your Leads Scam
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Member since 2023 · 25 posts · 74 votes
2yQuote from @Tonya English:
He is currently providing direct attention to our issue of finding and closing deals. Tom has been very responsive to our concerns. We are starting from scratch on this business relationship and hopefully this will go as promised. I will keep you posted on any future developments.”
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- Member since 2024 · 9 posts · 2 votes1yWow! You actually met the guy in person and saw his office/operations? That’s on a whole other level of scamming people. I’m speechless.
Quote from @Bobby Seegmiller:
I consider myself a savvy investor, wrote a ebook on foreclosures, sat down at lunch and looked Tom in the eyes, been to his home, analyzed the business, reviewed the technology and CRM, chatted with their closers and am unfortunately in the same boat as all of you. No return. Big promises, zero delivery and lots of cancelled meetings. I would love to have a conference call with all of those involved in the LYL scam. They both had good intentions and I have personally seen the inner workings of the business in attempting the "Done for you" model. Unfortunately, they can't deliver and their claim of $100k to $200k is worthless. It's almost like a little ponzi scheme. I think they pay the VA a little and pocket the rest waiting for the house of cards to fall. And Matt is in another country so pretty untouchable. I do have the Toms address I'm happy to share with you. If you are speaking to Tom about the LYL opportunity, run the other way. It is a failed business!
@Tonya English@Adam Dahmen@Chad Runken@Jeff Murdorf@Tim Pritchett@Sacramento Juarez@Brandon Heffington@Mark Thomas@Lima John@Teddy Williams@Cameron Gardner @Nathan Vigil- Member since 2025 · 3 posts · 1 vote1y
Quote from @Sacramento Juarez:
Wow! You actually met the guy in person and saw his office/operations? That’s on a whole other level of scamming people. I’m speechless.Quote from @Bobby Seegmiller:
I consider myself a savvy investor, wrote a ebook on foreclosures, sat down at lunch and looked Tom in the eyes, been to his home, analyzed the business, reviewed the technology and CRM, chatted with their closers and am unfortunately in the same boat as all of you. No return. Big promises, zero delivery and lots of cancelled meetings. I would love to have a conference call with all of those involved in the LYL scam. They both had good intentions and I have personally seen the inner workings of the business in attempting the "Done for you" model. Unfortunately, they can't deliver and their claim of $100k to $200k is worthless. It's almost like a little ponzi scheme. I think they pay the VA a little and pocket the rest waiting for the house of cards to fall. And Matt is in another country so pretty untouchable. I do have the Toms address I'm happy to share with you. If you are speaking to Tom about the LYL opportunity, run the other way. It is a failed business!
@Tonya English@Adam Dahmen@Chad Runken@Jeff Murdorf@Tim Pritchett@Sacramento Juarez@Brandon Heffington@Mark Thomas@Lima John@Teddy Williams@Cameron Gardner @Nathan Vigil@Bobby Seegmiller would you please send me Tom’s address? Thanks!
- Member since 2024 · 4 posts · 1 vote1y
Quote from @Jeff Murdorf:
Can you resend the discord link?Quote from @Adam Dahmen:
@Cameron Gardner I'll send you a message with the discord link. It's pretty dormant because not many people in this thread want to join. I've messaged people privately and only a few have responded. Anyone else in this thread that I can validate is/was a LYL VIP member can message me and I will invite..
I re-sent it a few minutes ago.
- Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes1y
Quote from @Sacramento Juarez:
Wow! You actually met the guy in person and saw his office/operations? That’s on a whole other level of scamming people. I’m speechless.Quote from @Bobby Seegmiller:
I consider myself a savvy investor, wrote a ebook on foreclosures, sat down at lunch and looked Tom in the eyes, been to his home, analyzed the business, reviewed the technology and CRM, chatted with their closers and am unfortunately in the same boat as all of you. No return. Big promises, zero delivery and lots of cancelled meetings. I would love to have a conference call with all of those involved in the LYL scam. They both had good intentions and I have personally seen the inner workings of the business in attempting the "Done for you" model. Unfortunately, they can't deliver and their claim of $100k to $200k is worthless. It's almost like a little ponzi scheme. I think they pay the VA a little and pocket the rest waiting for the house of cards to fall. And Matt is in another country so pretty untouchable. I do have the Toms address I'm happy to share with you. If you are speaking to Tom about the LYL opportunity, run the other way. It is a failed business!
@Tonya English@Adam Dahmen@Chad Runken@Jeff Murdorf@Tim Pritchett@Sacramento Juarez@Brandon Heffington@Mark Thomas@Lima John@Teddy Williams@Cameron Gardner @Nathan VigilThats an important question to ask nowadays, we were scammed by a marketing/SEO company who is now overseas and has a PO box in US only so basically untouchable. (note not this one mentioned above)
I will not do business with anyone who is not physically in the USA for vendor services or this type of program.
7e investments53 Reviews - 1yJay HinrichsBusiness MemberReal Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
Quote from @Kevin Mohr:
I spoke with them about their VIP program out of curiosity. They claim they do all of the marketing, connect with the leads, negotiate the deal, and close it. After closing they split profits 50/50 with you. The cost of the program is 35K upfront and then approximately $3500/mo for all marketing. They guarantee 200K in revenue per year. I ultimately did not do it but I'd be interested to hear if anyone tried that program or knows of anyone who did.
ANd I have a bridge to sell you.. geesh people have to catch a clue this is simply not realistic , or real or anywhere close to that.. if they did all that why would they split profits.. .they would just do it all themselves and not need to sell a service.. I can see how people who want an easy way to rich's would fall for this though Golly.- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 740 votes1y
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Kevin Mohr:
I spoke with them about their VIP program out of curiosity. They claim they do all of the marketing, connect with the leads, negotiate the deal, and close it. After closing they split profits 50/50 with you. The cost of the program is 35K upfront and then approximately $3500/mo for all marketing. They guarantee 200K in revenue per year. I ultimately did not do it but I'd be interested to hear if anyone tried that program or knows of anyone who did.
ANd I have a bridge to sell you.. geesh people have to catch a clue this is simply not realistic , or real or anywhere close to that.. if they did all that why would they split profits.. .they would just do it all themselves and not need to sell a service.. I can see how people who want an easy way to rich's would fall for this though Golly.Sell them land in Gaza. Most of the gator bois would fall for it.
- Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes1y
@Jay Hinrichs after learning a roadrunner runs 20 mph and a coyote runs 40mph - I now know everything I have ever learned has been a complete lie - don't trust anyone
7e investments53 Reviews - Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 740 votes1y
Quote from @Chris Seveney:
@Jay Hinrichs after learning a roadrunner runs 20 mph and a coyote runs 40mph - I now know everything I have ever learned has been a complete lie - don't trust anyone
I learned that the A Team couldn't hit the side of a barn from 10 feet away!
- Member since 2022 · 6 posts · 0 votes1y
I hope you feel better for shaming others who thought they were investing in a partnership.
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 740 votes1y
Quote from @Bobby Seegmiller:
I consider myself a savvy investor, wrote a ebook on foreclosures, sat down at lunch and looked Tom in the eyes, been to his home, analyzed the business, reviewed the technology and CRM, chatted with their closers and am unfortunately in the same boat as all of you. No return. Big promises, zero delivery and lots of cancelled meetings. I would love to have a conference call with all of those involved in the LYL scam. They both had good intentions and I have personally seen the inner workings of the business in attempting the "Done for you" model. Unfortunately, they can't deliver and their claim of $100k to $200k is worthless. It's almost like a little ponzi scheme. I think they pay the VA a little and pocket the rest waiting for the house of cards to fall. And Matt is in another country so pretty untouchable. I do have the Toms address I'm happy to share with you. If you are speaking to Tom about the LYL opportunity, run the other way. It is a failed business!
@Tonya English@Adam Dahmen@Chad Runken@Jeff Murdorf@Tim Pritchett@Sacramento Juarez@Brandon Heffington@Mark Thomas@Lima John@Teddy Williams@Cameron Gardner @Nathan VigilNo one is really untouchable. Ask bin Laden.
- Investor · Roseville, CA · Member since 2012 · 21 posts · 11 votes1y
I've also been a partner for a year and have seen no results. Tom is constantly in and out of the hospital and barely ever responds. They have no account managers other than him. Seems like a very poorly run business. I saw several people have talked about legal action against LYL, has anyone done that and had luck. I'd really appreciate some guidance and I'm thinking that's my next step as well. Thanks!
- Member since 2025 · 2 posts · 0 votes1y
I joined September 10th, 2025 and I am $60K in with all the upfront and advertising money I have given them. The $400,000 "guarantee" obvously bull$hit after 8 months, many promises and apology calls - they have gone silent. They have no intention of making anyone whole, not to mention making good on the agreements. They have said they chose the wrong closers, they then took all the leads I paid for and said they were no good because they put my name in the sales persons field and so they died on the vine. Now they say there is kidney failure. I am very close to bankruptcy because of this. I am so stupid. They invoke God and they send you the "Go Giver" book to make it sound like they are ethical. We need to ban together and get some papers on them before they close up shop, Tom and Matt and Kristoine - and just form a new company under a new name.
This appears to be deliberate fraud.
- Sorry to hear this. One of the other investors previously shared that he went and visited their shop, looked him in the eye and sold him the same promise and still got duped. That said, we could find out the address and pay a group visit. I’d gladly spend the money for a flight ticket along with pooling together to take legal action.
Quote from @Timothy Dunn:
I joined September 10th, 2025 and I am $60K in with all the upfront and advertising money I have given them. The $400,000 "guarantee" obvously bull$hit after 8 months, many promises and apology calls - they have gone silent. They have no intention of making anyone whole, not to mention making good on the agreements. They have said they chose the wrong closers, they then took all the leads I paid for and said they were no good because they put my name in the sales persons field and so they died on the vine. Now they say there is kidney failure. I am very close to bankruptcy because of this. I am so stupid. They invoke God and they send you the "Go Giver" book to make it sound like they are ethical. We need to ban together and get some papers on them before they close up shop, Tom and Matt and Kristoine - and just form a new company under a new name.
This appears to be deliberate fraud.
- Member since 2025 · 2 posts · 0 votes1y
I would love to know the physical home address as well. We do need to start thinking about taking action. The Utah Consumer Protection folks said they would look into it - but we need a few of us to report. Alos we need to find the SSN for tom and Matt and Kristine and put a UUC - 1 lean on those numbers. They are making lots of money - but they are just not paying anyone.
- 1yJay HinrichsBusiness MemberReal Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
Quote from @Timothy Dunn:
I would love to know the physical home address as well. We do need to start thinking about taking action. The Utah Consumer Protection folks said they would look into it - but we need a few of us to report. Alos we need to find the SSN for tom and Matt and Kristine and put a UUC - 1 lean on those numbers. They are making lots of money - but they are just not paying anyone.
sounds like yet another utah based marketing guru scam.. Utah is ground zero for many of htese companies for whatever reason.
- Member since 2025 · 1 post · 0 votes1y
I thought I had researched. Tom’s “mom” died and he had to attend the funeral… tons of promises but missed appointments. The guarantee is what made us invest in the partnership. He has gone completely silent and does not respond to our slack channel or text messages. I would love to be a part of some class action lawsuit as well. Frustrating!!
- Member since 2025 · 7 posts · 1 vote1y
Quote from @Jarrett Caldwell:
I thought I had researched. Tom’s “mom” died and he had to attend the funeral… tons of promises but missed appointments. The guarantee is what made us invest in the partnership. He has gone completely silent and does not respond to our slack channel or text messages. I would love to be a part of some class action lawsuit as well. Frustrating!!
- Real Estate Consultant · Evergreen, CO · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 740 votes1y
Quote from @Matthew Roberts:
Quote from @Jarrett Caldwell:
I thought I had researched. Tom’s “mom” died and he had to attend the funeral… tons of promises but missed appointments. The guarantee is what made us invest in the partnership. He has gone completely silent and does not respond to our slack channel or text messages. I would love to be a part of some class action lawsuit as well. Frustrating!!
Keep us in the loop. My Ai ecosystem can help if need be.
- Member since 2025 · 7 posts · 1 vote1y
Dear Tonya
I was also scammed by Tom and his son. I am searching for other victims, to gather and together we can notify the proper authorities. nine 0 four, two 9 four six thousand. Looking forward to speaking with you about this. - Member since 2025 · 7 posts · 1 vote1y
Nate, #1 ...how do I keep you in the loop? and #2 how can I contact you?...OR you contact me?
- Member since 2025 · 3 posts · 1 vote1y
I tried to work with a law firm to pursue a lawsuit. It appears a lawsuit might be a fruitless endeavor. After consulting with a law firm, it turns out that Tom has several outstanding judgments already against him (likely from previous suits). So even if one were to sue him or the company and get a favorable judgement, it’s unlikely they would be able to collect anything. That would mean another tens of thousands expended to likely not get anything in return. I’d be curious if anyone else has talked with a law firm, if anyone is actually pursuing litigation, or if anyone has filed a criminal complaint. In any event, I’ve also filed a criminal complaint with the FBI and I encourage everyone else to do the same. The feds won’t do anything based on just my one report. I have also filed with the FTC, and exploring options with the attorney general and other law enforcement agencies.
- Member since 2024 · 3 posts · 1 vote11mo
Hello I have reached out to the FBI as well maybe we can combine the two cases strength in numbers. I als have a police report. They have money they are still online getting people
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