Real Estate Broker · Hyde Park Tampa, FL · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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Ruin their reputation? Are you kidding me! The seller is under contract with the wholesaler - who he most likely doesn't know if someone who has no intention of buying the property himself or even capable of it - to then have the deal fall through because the wholesaler can't perform. Any time a property comes BOM, it taints it. Potential Buyers and Realtors opine that it didn't pass inspections or appraisal and the value is perceived as less. What is more important to understand is that wholesaling in real estate is illegal in most states; it is the unlawful practice of real estate. It's punishable with some big fines and even imprisonment. Before accepting a contract, I encourage all sellers to ensure it is clearly noted that the transaction is not transferrable. I've seen a lot of sellers and buyers get burned (many BPers) by wholesale deals. It's not okay.
Rental Property Investor · SE Michigan · Member since 2014 · 4k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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IMO a good wholesaler should be prepared to buy the property at their wholesale price. If the deal is good enough that they would buy it, they should have little risk of not selling the deal and no risk of hurting their reputation.
Real Estate Broker · Hyde Park Tampa, FL · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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Ruin their reputation? Are you kidding me! The seller is under contract with the wholesaler - who he most likely doesn't know if someone who has no intention of buying the property himself or even capable of it - to then have the deal fall through because the wholesaler can't perform. Any time a property comes BOM, it taints it. Potential Buyers and Realtors opine that it didn't pass inspections or appraisal and the value is perceived as less. What is more important to understand is that wholesaling in real estate is illegal in most states; it is the unlawful practice of real estate. It's punishable with some big fines and even imprisonment. Before accepting a contract, I encourage all sellers to ensure it is clearly noted that the transaction is not transferrable. I've seen a lot of sellers and buyers get burned (many BPers) by wholesale deals. It's not okay.
Real Estate Broker · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2022 · 133 posts · 127 votes
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As an investor focused agent that works with tons of wholesalers I would not advise retaliation. A wholesale deal usually gets funded through hard money lending. Due to the volatility in the market hard money lenders are changing their lending criteria. Closing time has jumped up from 5-15 days to 30+ days. Interest rates are spiking. Hard money lending is drying up. A lot of end buyers have been backing up out of deals. Next time ask for a non refundable deposit to protect yourself.
Maybe they backed out because of hard money lending or they backed out because the deal wasn't doable anymore.
When it comes to ruining their reputation. You have to ask yourself, do you want to be known as the wholesaler bashing on the end buyer? The investor community tends to be small and everyone knows each other. End buyers talk between them. Trying to ruin their reputation will most likely only ruin yours.
Ruin their reputation? Are you kidding me! The seller is under contract with the wholesaler - who he most likely doesn't know if someone who has no intention of buying the property himself or even capable of it - to then have the deal fall through because the wholesaler can't perform. Any time a property comes BOM, it taints it. Potential Buyers and Realtors opine that it didn't pass inspections or appraisal and the value is perceived as less. What is more important to understand is that wholesaling in real estate is illegal in most states; it is the unlawful practice of real estate. It's punishable with some big fines and even imprisonment. Before accepting a contract, I encourage all sellers to ensure it is clearly noted that the transaction is not transferrable. I've seen a lot of sellers and buyers get burned (many BPers) by wholesale deals. It's not okay.
Wholesaling is legal in the state that I'm in and the 3 surrounding states. I've only heard of wholesaling being illegal in Illinois and Oklahoma.
How many wholesalers have violated real estate law? Where can I find the list of people who have violated the law and their infractions?
How are wholesalers financially devastated by a deal that fell through?
Mike, first things first: check your state law to see if wholesaling is legal.
Secondly, your questions are telling...you're looking for way to get in the game but you don't have the knowledge (yet). And, what you don't know will hurt you. As far as who has been fined/imprisoned, really? There are Real Estate Commission minutes published in every state with the names of people who violated real estate law.
Again, you don't know what you don't know and that makes you a danger to yourself and others. Check your state law first. I am not an advocate of wholesaling. I have had at least 10 BPers contact me for help with deals that went wrong and financially were devastating. And, with that, I leave you to pursue the answers you need.
I won't lend to a wholesaler because what is my lending asset/insurable interest? A soon to be flipped contract?
If it is a real double-close, it's something else ... maybe; but as @Greg Scott said "a good wholesaler should be prepared to buy the property at their wholesale price."
I won't lend to a wholesaler because what is my lending asset/insurable interest? A soon to be flipped contract?
If it is a real double-close, it's something else ... maybe; but as @Greg Scott said "a good wholesaler should be prepared to buy the property at their wholesale price."
There is transactional funding. It's quite common here in NC. I meant hard money lending from the buyer side not the wholesaler. The buyer could have backed out because the deal didn't make sense with the hard money lending criteria changing so quickly.
How does a wholesaler ruin their reputation when the end buyer falls through?
There are only a few end buyers but there are tons of sellers in my area.
It all depends on 3 things
1. Applicable state law. Wholesaling, as the term is used today (actually it’s “flipping contracts”) is NOT illegal anywhere; it’s just that some states require the wholesaler to possess a real estate broker license
2. Full disclosure to the seller, i.e., the seller is informed, as part of the purchase offer, that the closing is dependent on the purchasing party engaging a third party end buyer at a higher price to buy the property.
3. That the wholesaler does not mislead the seller, who may be unsophisticated homeowner, by talking about their “money partner”, pre approval when it’s actually a generic letter printed up from a hard money lenders website; etc.
Investor · Oakland, CA · Member since 2015 · 135 posts · 82 votes
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I listed a home ( fixer) I own in MO FSBO on Zillow. I was contacted by a buyer ... eager to buy the home ASAP. He just had to have it. I gave code to home, his team members visited home and them he made an offer I accepted verbally. He sends over the contract and now wants 15 day inspection. Also wants ability to market property & earn a profit while I grant him the opportunity to ASSIGN the PSA to a third party. I also need to remove my Zillow listing to make this a binding contract.
So in essence ... turn over complete control so he can potentially benefit while I play with myself. :) I call him out as a wholesaler and said I'm not interested in those terms. Also refundable EMD. Then questions what gave me the idea he was a wholesaler? :)
He then comes back with $5,000 more offer. I told him original offer was still in play but scratch out all that wholesale stuff.
What I got out of it was an education and a nice PSA if I ever decided to wholesale. :)