How to help a home owner in pre-foreclosure? (Wholesaler)

How to help a home owner in pre-foreclosure? (Wholesaler)

Manassas, VA · Member since 2014 · 2 posts · 0 votes

Hi Everyone, 
I am new to real estate investing and I am trying to understand the how a whole seller helps a home owner in pre-foreclosure. 

So far it is my understanding that I identify a person in pre-foreclosure, and with their permission (I get the home owner to deed me the property, making me the owner?) I negotiate with the lender a discounted price for the remaining balance of the loan,once that figure is agreed upon, sell the property to the new buyer. I am kinda confused on what is the best way for a wholesaler to tie up the property to be able to talk to the lender and wholesale the property to a buyer. Can someone please clear this process up for me.

Thanks 

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Investor · Rochester, NY · Member since 2012 · 316 posts · 102 votes
12y

Two quick things to get you started:

If the owner is in pre-foreclosure there are two ways to help them:

1.  They may have equity in the house, but are still facing foreclosure.  In that case you can get a contract on the house and wholesale it normally as long as you ensure the foreclosure process won't be completed by the time your end buyer closes on it.  (Note: make sure you know what the property tax situation is by doing research before you start offering it out to potential buyers, also ask for any other liens from the owner, before the title check happens)

2. If they don't have equity you will have to work a short sale.  Typically these aren't assignable, but you might be able to bring in a partner who wants to rehab it and you have them put in the offer to the bank, and you get paid on the backend on the sale.  In this case the easiest way to work is to find a realtor in your area who specializes in short sales and you can have them work with the bank to get the offer in.  Usually you won't get far as an individual investor with the bank.

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  • Investor · Rochester, NY · Member since 2012 · 316 posts · 102 votes
    12y

    Two quick things to get you started:

    If the owner is in pre-foreclosure there are two ways to help them:

    1.  They may have equity in the house, but are still facing foreclosure.  In that case you can get a contract on the house and wholesale it normally as long as you ensure the foreclosure process won't be completed by the time your end buyer closes on it.  (Note: make sure you know what the property tax situation is by doing research before you start offering it out to potential buyers, also ask for any other liens from the owner, before the title check happens)

    2. If they don't have equity you will have to work a short sale.  Typically these aren't assignable, but you might be able to bring in a partner who wants to rehab it and you have them put in the offer to the bank, and you get paid on the backend on the sale.  In this case the easiest way to work is to find a realtor in your area who specializes in short sales and you can have them work with the bank to get the offer in.  Usually you won't get far as an individual investor with the bank.

  • Realtor · Albany, OR · Member since 2014 · 128 posts · 30 votes
    11y

    @Dave Savage Very interesting stuff you put. You explained it in very simple terms. That's awesome. 

    I have been wonder how pre-foreclosures and short sales work, and how they work in with wholesaling.  This definitely gives me an idea and something to work from. 

    If you have any other info to add to this, please do. I am very interested in both pre-foreclosures and short sales.

    Thanks again!

  • Investor · Washington, Washington D.C. · Member since 2014 · 96 posts · 39 votes
    11y

    These might also be opportunities for "subject-to" deals, where you find an investor willing to bring the mortgage current, pay a certain amount of equity, and take title to the property but make the mortgage payments with the home owner's name still on mortgage. There are a variety of issues with this route, namely, "due on sale" clauses, and you'd probably have to just arrange for a fee from the buyer for your time, but this is certainly another option,

  • Real Estate Investor · Lansdowne, PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 656 votes
    11y

    @Liz Stewart Another option: leaseback, where you buy it and then lease it back to the defaulted owner. You can give them an option to buy a few years down the line after they get their finances in order, if you so choose. That option can be presented in the current lease or a future lease. My coin.

    Kudos,

    Mary

  • Realtor · Albany, OR · Member since 2014 · 128 posts · 30 votes
    11y

    @Eric M. @Mary B. 

    Great advice! Thanks for sharing. So many options in real estate and that is awesome!

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    11y

    This, I'm sure will be a well received response.

    As for the best way to help someone in preforeclosure, as a "typical" wholesaler?

    Stay away from them, especially if they are upside down.

  • Realtor · Albany, OR · Member since 2014 · 128 posts · 30 votes
    11y

    @Wayne Brooks That is good advice also. I have read/heard both sides of dealing with pre-foreclosures. "Don't touch them" and "Oh... I deal with them all the time", so with that said, I will study them more before I jump in. They do interest me and like I said, I will do my homework.

    Thanks

  • Investor · San Mateo, CA · Member since 2014 · 1 post · 0 votes
    10y

    If you are a wholesaler and run into a home that is in pre-foreclosure or has received a Notice of Default whether they have Equity or Not. There is a company in California that has a Great program that helps the homeowner and will also pay you commission fees that is NOT A SCAM like so many others.

    You can email them and they will respond with any information needed promptly and their process works in any state.

    Grand View Financial LLC

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    10y

    @Samantha Lotti  in Oregon it is illegal to work with anyone in foreclosure unless your a licensed foreclosure consultant.. Look up the regs in the Oregon statutes.

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    Real Estate Agent · Washington, D.C. · Member since 2012 · 17k+ posts · 30k+ votes
    10y

    I just want to point out, because you are in the DC metro area, do not get involved with a pre-foreclosure on the Maryland side of the border. Maryland has very strict laws about pre-foreclosure marketing with very hefty penalties

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    10y

    @Steve R.  California also has anti equity stripping laws.. check  the regs before embarking on pre foreclosure resuce schemes

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Portland, OR · Member since 2014 · 119 posts · 121 votes
    10y

    The ideal situation would be one where the seller has enough equity for you to come in with a cash offer and have her walk away with some as well. However, if there is no equity then a short sale would be your best option. It's a lengthy process (generally 3-4 mo in Oregon) but it can definitely be done. You will want an experienced short sale negotiator who specializes in these types of deals. If the house needs a lot of work then your probability of getting the SS approved at a price you can make money on increases. The reason being that the bank will require a BPO agent or an appraiser go out to the house and determine what they believe the value is, if that value comes in at your strike price then you've got yourself a deal. If, however, it doesn't come in at your strike price then you can negotiate using whatever leverage you have...like repair bids from 3 different contractors. 

  • Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 10 posts · 0 votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Eric M.:

    These might also be opportunities for "subject-to" deals, where you find an investor willing to bring the mortgage current, pay a certain amount of equity, and take title to the property but make the mortgage payments with the home owner's name still on mortgage. There are a variety of issues with this route, namely, "due on sale" clauses, and you'd probably have to just arrange for a fee from the buyer for your time, but this is certainly another option,

     How do you get the financing for a subject to deal on a pre foreclosure deal? Are hard money lenders a good option?

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