Newbie Wholesalers - don't be THIS Guy

Newbie Wholesalers - don't be THIS Guy

Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes

During my closing today - I wholesaled a house in Zion, Illinois and made $5,309.84 - my real estate attorney approached me and introduced me to a real estate agent - let's call her Pam.  I can see a sense of skepticism in her eyes...and later, I learned why.

My real estate attorney has just talked with Frank - a newbie wholesaler. Pam was working with Frank for the past couple of months. Pam called my attorney to seek help.

Pam submitted 25 offers for Frank and got 5 offers accepted. She thought she would be cashing in but she got the surprise of her life when she found that Frank has NO EARNEST MONEY to lock up those 5 deals. Frank used a Proof of Funds provided by the "gurus". And get this: Frank does not even have a car (probably sold it so he could pay the guru). Even though Pam has been a real estate agent for a long time, Frank talked a BIG game and she was convinced Frank is the real deal.

So now...Pam had to go back to all the listing agents on all 5 properties and told them that her buyer does not have the money and cannot close. Pam hates wholesalers because of Frank. BUT, my attorney explained the process to her and assured her that wholesaling is completely legal. My attorney told her I've wholesaled enough number of times and I do lock up my deals with earnest money. I offered to help her out by being able to close on the properties that Frank couldn't. So we ended the conversation in a positive way and maybe I will buy 1 of those 5 properties that Frank messed up on.

So...to all the newbie wholesalers out there...do NOT be like Frank:

1. Before you waste the time of real estate agents who will put in all these offers for you, get your act together.  @James Wise and other agents have bad experiences with wholesalers who just graduated from the guru seminars. Realtors are people too and their time is valuable, maybe even more valuable than yours.

2. You need earnest money when tying up a property listed on the MLS. That's just the reality and there's no getting around to it regardless of what the gurus say. If you don't have any earnest money, don't try flipping a house. Find a job flipping burgers and save up $500 or $1,000 instead. 

3. You need the right contract valid in your state and don't use one these "guru contracts". It makes you look like a fool or worse, you'll end up messing a deal up because your guru contract does not work in your state.

4. Don't be "trigger happy" with regard to making offers on properties all over town. I know the gurus say make 100 offers and you buy 1 property. Well, choose a market, a farm area within that market and make intelligent offers for houses in your farm area. By doing so, you don't waste the realtor's time.

5. If you don't have any money...here's an option for you: partner with an experienced wholesaler in your town and work for him or her. Find him a great deal. He puts in the earnest money and coach you as well. You do the work, he takes the risks so he deserves to make more money than you. And last but not the least ....

6. Don't pay any guru thousands of dollars. Listen to the BP Podcast, read the BP blogs, network with BP folks...specially in your market. And keep those few thousand dollars as your earnest money and your marketing budget instead.

14Reply
125 views

Most Popular Reply

Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
11y

@Anson Smith   something just does not sound right that you would knowingly tie up property without any intention of putting up EM only EM if you find a buyer.

I guess I just hold Real Estate to a different standard of and code of conduct and ethics. And a basic principal that if one gets into the business at least cobble enough money together to put up EM... and be proud that you can... 

In the timber business we called those that tied up timber stands and had no money and no ability to close  Timber Pimps  they were just pimping contracts. 

See this reply in the discussion

84 Replies

Jump to latestLatest
  • Real Estate Investor · Waldorf, MD · Member since 2014 · 592 posts · 320 votes
    11y

    Naw Champ!! Get the Meetup app on your phone. Or go to national REIA as see if you can find something. @Brett McCurdy 

  • Longwood, FL · Member since 2014 · 55 posts · 16 votes
    10y

    In many instances the seller is unwilling or able to make the necessary repairs in order to make it saleable. So only cash buyers usually investors , would get involved with it. Most agents shy away from these properties leaving the door wide open for wholesalers.

  • Professional Auctioneer · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y
    Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

    @Anson Smith   something just does not sound right that you would knowingly tie up property without any intention of putting up EM only EM if you find a buyer.

    I guess I just hold Real Estate to a different standard of and code of conduct and ethics. And a basic principal that if one gets into the business at least cobble enough money together to put up EM... and be proud that you can... 

    In the timber business we called those that tied up timber stands and had no money and no ability to close  Timber Pimps  they were just pimping contracts. 

  • Professional Auctioneer · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    Timber Pimps....... Love it......what would call a wholesaler that does the same thing?

    Charles

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    10y

    @Account Closed  well if you have been out on logging show's you will understand the vernacular is quite colorful... There is HUGE money in certain Timber deals... 6 figure returns are not uncommon at all.. All with no money out of pocket..

    in the mid 90's when export to Japan was really hot.. an exporter would pre pay for logs.

    If you could talk the land owner into selling you a timber deed.. the mill would put up 100% of the money.. At no interest and no points. you delivered logs to them. they would then pay them selves back and whatever is left over they paid you.... And they would pay the logger at the same time.. Called a split pay system.. So timber pimp could get into the deal put up Zero money need zero money and make 100k plus all on levereage in 30 to 60 days.

    And mid 6 figures was not uncommon.. not many 7 figure but 50 to 500k per logging show was pretty routine.

    then the Japanese economy collapsed and there went the big dollars.. still decent money in it.. My old partner still does it. and 2 years ago I think he hit a 7 figure income year.. but its certainly not as lucrative as it used to be..

Join the conversationCreate a free account to reply, vote on answers and follow this thread.