List Source Returning Small Numbers

List Source Returning Small Numbers

Raleigh, NC · Member since 2017 · 80 posts · 25 votes

 I have really enjoyed Michael Quarles  tutorial for List Source!  I tried it in Raleigh NC( List Source has more than 300k  at the beginning criteria) and returns a list of 15 lol.  That seems very targeted but is it worth the money for that few?

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Real Estate Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 63 posts · 38 votes
9y

What criteria's did you enter? I pulled a list for a zipcode near me, but I did a 3 mile radius to get more results.

Also, I think it was Micheal Q who mentioned equity is a great list to pull. Filter for homes with a good amount of equity. in addition to other filters you want like property type (SFH, duplex, etc.)

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  • Raleigh, NC · Member since 2011 · 721 posts · 343 votes
    9y

    I'm not sure that I completely understand.  I've used List Source.  Yes, it does start with hundreds of thousands.  Then I'd narrow it down by city, zip code, what type of owner (absentee), eliminate duplicates etc.  When it's all said and done you can have as few as a couple of hundred to a few thousand.  

    I've never had a list as few as 15, incredible!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Bakersfield, CA · Member since 2008 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    that happens when you have an area not reporting dates or other cryteria. 

    There is a method to work around it. 

  • Raleigh, NC · Member since 2017 · 80 posts · 25 votes
    9y

    Great, thanks for your reply! I will be listening to that podcast when I take my son to football practice tomorrow morning. I appreciate your help.

  • Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2009 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

     I have really enjoyed Michael Quarles  tutorial for List Source!  I tried it in Raleigh NC( List Source has more than 300k  at the beginning criteria) and returns a list of 15 lol.  That seems very targeted but is it worth the money for that few?

    The response depends on your ctieria. There are 388,413 property records as of my last Wake county PR snapshot. If you are looking for quads outside of the city of Raleigh then maybe you'll get 15. LOL! Actually, you'll get 24! Listsource may have register of deed data for refinance dates and swags at equity positions. Some may find that useful. 

  • Raleigh, NC · Member since 2017 · 80 posts · 25 votes
    9y

    thanks....so any advice what criteria I could leave off to get more than 15 results?What criteria do you enter?

  • Real Estate Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 63 posts · 38 votes
    9y

    What criteria's did you enter? I pulled a list for a zipcode near me, but I did a 3 mile radius to get more results.

    Also, I think it was Micheal Q who mentioned equity is a great list to pull. Filter for homes with a good amount of equity. in addition to other filters you want like property type (SFH, duplex, etc.)

  • Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2009 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    thanks....so any advice what criteria I could leave off to get more than 15 results?What criteria do you enter?

    @Jenifer S. Since I have no clue what you are trying to find, I can't help with your search criteria. 

  • Investor · Willow Spring, NC · Member since 2009 · 5k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    9y

    To answer your question, when I was buying in Wake county I looked at single family residential as my TAM (Total Available Market). My Addressable Market (excluding bank owned REO and courthouse acquisitions) was defined roughly as: single family (type & use and land class fields) residential, built before 1978 (year built field), held by owner for 10 years or more (pkg date field) with assessed value under $125K (bldg AV and land AV fields), with out of town owners (owner city field and physical city field). So I looked at (with a rough total counts of each selection):

    single family (type & use and land class fields) residential 285,108
    built before 1978 (year built field) 230,809
    held by owner for 10 years or more 103,633
    with assessed value under $125K 19,385
    with out of town owners 3,029

    From there I broke it down further into subdivisions, property consistency across SD phases, percentage NOO/OO. The reality is most of my acquisitions were REO and courthouse trustee sales rather than via letter campaigns (only got 1 pre-foreclosure this way).

    Hope that helps. Your search should match your overall business plan based on your acquisition target profile(s).

  • Raleigh, NC · Member since 2017 · 80 posts · 25 votes
    9y

    I took everyones' advice and played around with the criteria.  In my area for whatever the reason it didn't like me adding 1-3 bedrooms.  Took that off and problem solved.;)

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2014 · 54 posts · 24 votes
    9y

    lol wished I'd seen this earlier.  Yeah, Wake county doesn't record # of bedrooms 99% of the time, so good job with that fix.  :-)

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