125k assignment fee !!!

125k assignment fee !!!

Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes

I wrote  pretty much exactly one year ago that I paid my highest ever assignment fee  125k 

Well tonight I just got back from the planning commission meeting with a fully approved 90 lot subdivision

which my MAI  appraisal for the lots when shovel ready indicated the  value was  12,600,000   we are paying 7.4 million for this.

I have 10 acres sold to retirement home developer for 2.2 million in  a double close transaction.

so we are in the dirt ONLY 5.4 million..  with 3.1 to fully develop it puts us at 8.5 plus 500k in soft costs so round that to 9 million 

so today we found our selves with 3,600,000 of profit on the dirt.  but it just gets better we will build the houses out and the profit will go up 3X or more.. this is a good one.. 

its hard for me to pay assignment fee's and I paid this one within literally 30 minutes of the seller pulling the plug.. but took the risk and now looks like its going to work out just fine..  and this market while not red hot multiple offer type market its quite consistent .. 

so the risk/reward on this was I risked the 125k BEFORE we were annexed and certainly before approvals.. I spent another 250k getting to tonight's meeting  and I will spend another 125k on final engineering..  So while the wholesaler had a nice payday.. I certainly like my position.

Development is BIG time gamble but when it works boy does it work..  and of course all this money is cash up front since we don't own the dirt yet.

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Investor · Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
8y

Awww! It's so beautiful when @Jay Hinrichs admits he loves wholesalers :')

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  • Investor · Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    Awww! It's so beautiful when @Jay Hinrichs admits he loves wholesalers :')

  • Ned CareyPro Member
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    Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2008 · 17k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    8y

    Cool congrats.

  • Investor/ Real Estate Agent · Burton, OH · Member since 2015 · 167 posts · 53 votes
    8y

    @Jay Hinrichs thanks for sharing this. Congrats! Taking the risk when others won't/ can't and then reaping the benefits. I am looking forward to hearing more about this deal!

  • Wholesaler · Memphis, TN · Member since 2016 · 89 posts · 16 votes
    8y

    Love seeing this! I would like to make the move at some point to The development side, and this is definitely inspiring.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Doug P.:

    Awww! It's so beautiful when @Jay Hinrichs admits he loves wholesalers :')

     this wholesaler worked on this property for 2 years through multiple hearings and put money into the deal.

    so I was OK with it.. but its not my fav move.. I am used to the little wak a do mid west east coast 2 to 5k guys.. running around pimping low end props..  LOL>

  • Austin, TX · Member since 2015 · 92 posts · 45 votes
    8y

    Congratulations, good to see your deal take a major step to fruition. Keep us posted!

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    I see a lot of investors struggle with this question, I am of the belief that the assignment fee should not matter at all. Like you said your position on this one is good so isn't it better if everyone makes money in the deal? On most properties, a wholesaler will make 5-10k while the investor looks to make 40k+ on most deals that come through my office. If you're buying something at a great %ARV then isn't it better if everyone in the deal is making money? In the end, you wouldn't have found the deal without the wholesaler

    this guy Is not a wholesaler  he is a land acquisition specialist who does a lot of the behind the scenes and we are not ripping equity from the seller the seller is getting 7.4 million that's what its worth..  bid difference in low end wholesaling.  

  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    8y
    No risk no reward ! This would horrify most investors . I’m glad there’s guys out there like you jay !
  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Dennis M.:
    No risk no reward ! This would horrify most investors . I’m glad there’s guys out there like you jay !

     we all play in our sandbox's    some days I wonder why I do this.. but then I have a project go like this and 

    well its a fine day..  I have Toll Brothers Lennar and DR wanting to buy this from me  LOL and boy does it feel good to beat the big boys to this deal.. !! 

  • Kevin SchaeferPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Emerson, NJ · Member since 2013 · 182 posts · 34 votes
    8y

    @Jay Hinrichs congrats this is awesome to read. Very inspiring. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    8y

    I’m almost starting to consider that this is a preferable way to making money than arguing with tenants over the bedsheets for curtains and the junk  83’ dodge caravan on blocks in the yard 

  • Contractor · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y
    @Dennis M. I couldn't agree more dennis.. doing land deals, even small ones, are looking better everyday....
  • Investor · Houston, TX · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 871 votes
    8y

    @Jay Hinrichs great story, thanks for sharing.  

    Best of luck in the development project.

  • Professional · Philadelphia PA, PA · Member since 2013 · 25 posts · 6 votes
    8y

    Nice, we'll be closing out a 135k assignment in the next couple weeks.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Tim Stover:

    Nice, we'll be closing out a 135k assignment in the next couple weeks.

    you paying it or making it ???   

  • Professional · Philadelphia PA, PA · Member since 2013 · 25 posts · 6 votes
    8y

    @Jay Hinrichs making it. 3 buildings, 33 units.  Value Add and 100% occupied.  Was initially making more but had to lower the assignment because of bank appraisal.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Tim Stover:

    @Jay Hinrichs making it. 3 buildings, 33 units.  Value Add and 100% occupied.  Was initially making more but had to lower the assignment because of bank appraisal.

     Nicely done and commiserate with the value is that a 3 plus million dollar deal ???

  • Professional · Philadelphia PA, PA · Member since 2013 · 25 posts · 6 votes
    8y

    @Jay Hinrichs spot on.  3.3 range 

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Tim Stover:

    @Jay Hinrichs spot on.  3.3 range 

     so commersate with a real estate brokerage fee  sounds about right.

  • Professional · Philadelphia PA, PA · Member since 2013 · 25 posts · 6 votes
    8y

    @Jay Hinrichs yup.  Interestingly enough a lot of owners/landlords don't want to work with agents in Philly.  We were able to get this done in one walkthrough with 5 people that lasted about an hour and a half.  Limited disturbance to tenants in the beginning which was key 

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Tim Stover:

    @Jay Hinrichs yup.  Interestingly enough a lot of owners/landlords don't want to work with agents in Philly.  We were able to get this done in one walkthrough with 5 people that lasted about an hour and a half.  Limited disturbance to tenants in the beginning which was key 

     ya its regional... In Oregon those that get into trouble are the ones that set up like borkers IE websites e mails craigslist adds etc and market properties they don't own.. that's illegal.. these bigger transactions that are never advertised and such tend to be OK as they don't get public scrutiny or marketed in the public domain.. you will always have those that don't want to talk with brokers and leave tons of meat on the bone and fubar themselves.. thinking they are saving money when in fact they are losing money ( sellers that is)

  • Investor · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2015 · 227 posts · 66 votes
    8y

    Awesome! @Jay Hinrichs 

    It's always inspiring and educational to read your posts sir.

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