He wasn't saying rate didn't matter. It absolutely did.
His point was that when he's under contract on a good deal, knowing the financing will actually perform is sometimes worth more than saving a little on the rate.
He'd rather know the terms upfront, know what's expected from him, and know the closing timeline than spend two weeks chasing a slightly better quote and risk the deal.
I thought it was an interesting perspective, especially from someone doing multiple projects.
For investors who use hard money regularly, what matters most when you choose a lender: rate, leverage, speed, or certainty of execution?
And has your answer changed as you've done more deals?
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
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its the whole reason I am still in business.. on time everytime as I loan my own funds .. so there is not underwriter etc.. just me. and for repeat clients its pretty simple they get the smokin deals when the deals have to close in 3 to 5 days and those are my specialty.
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
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its the whole reason I am still in business.. on time everytime as I loan my own funds .. so there is not underwriter etc.. just me. and for repeat clients its pretty simple they get the smokin deals when the deals have to close in 3 to 5 days and those are my specialty.
Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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This is why real estate is a relationship-based business. If you have the right team members who surround you, especially lenders, and you treat them well, they will treat you well. When deals come around that might be a little nuanced or have an expedited timeline, that person most likely will have your back.
When I was at BPCon this past weekend, I was telling somebody that this type of relationship, even if you're paying 1% more per loan, is non-consequential because, on a $250,000 loan, $2,500 for a full year makes that much of a difference. It should not take you a year to flip a property. If that makes that much of a difference, then you should not be doing the deal in the first place.
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
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last year at BP Con Vegas I talked to a few folks and they wanted to treat private money like you see the adds for on line brokerages that advertise they broker form 30 lenders and lenders COMPETE for your loans.. Our bizz just does not work that way.. And the second someone starts in on that train of thought is when I tune out. NEXT.. :)
Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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I can’t tell you how many loans we’ve done as a result of panicked phone calls from borrowers whose lender flaked out and who need funding within a few days. Though it’s never been a planned strategy, somehow it’s become a specialty for us. Our record is funding the very next day.
This happens because we’ve gotten to know our borrowers personally, in advance, and we work hard to build those relationships. They trust that we will always do what we say. Always.
No one questions your terms when they’re in a bind like that and, of course, we don’t take advantage of the situation. Our rates are the same whether we fund tomorrow or next week.
If you need us, we’ll walk on coals to get you funded. But if you’re calling us because you think you can squeeze another quarter point out of us, you’re absolutely calling the wrong lender.
So, like @Jay Hinrichs, the fastest way to get me to blow you off is to try to negotiate our already-fair and 100% reliable terms.