Seasoning for Cash Out Refinance on a Hard Money Loan

Seasoning for Cash Out Refinance on a Hard Money Loan

Investor · PA · Member since 2022 · 4 posts · 1 vote

I was informed of a new regulation requiring 12 months of seasoning in certain scenarios and wanted to find out if this would apply if the primary loan of an investment property was a hard money one. It seems to not apply to a HELOC. Please see below and thanks in advance!

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Lender · Austin Texas · Member since 2022 · 319 posts · 156 votes
3y

I believe this only applies to fannie/freddie loans.

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  • Lender · Austin Texas · Member since 2022 · 319 posts · 156 votes
    3y

    I believe this only applies to fannie/freddie loans.

  • Jay HurstBusiness Member
    Lender · Dallas, TX · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Gedaliah Fineman:

    I was informed of a new regulation requiring 12 months of seasoning in certain scenarios and wanted to find out if this would apply if the primary loan of an investment property was a hard money one. It seems to not apply to a HELOC. Please see below and thanks in advance!

     @Gedaliah Fineman  The 12 month seasoning DOES come into effect if the property was purchased with a hard money loan.  The important thing to understand is that this is only for cash out loans meaning you can refi what is owed with no wait period. That is called a rate/term refi. Or, if you can get a bridge loan to pull the cash out with a non-conventional loan like we have been doing for years, then turn around and refi right away with the conventional loan which has no seasoning because it is a rate/term refi.

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  • Lender · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2023 · 41 posts · 20 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Gedaliah Fineman:

    I was informed of a new regulation requiring 12 months of seasoning in certain scenarios and wanted to find out if this would apply if the primary loan of an investment property was a hard money one. It seems to not apply to a HELOC. Please see below and thanks in advance!

    Some non-qm lenders would be ok with less than 12 months seasoning. Best way to find out is contact a mortgage broker that works with lenders that offer these loans and is licensed in the state in question,

  • Simmy AhluwaliaPro Member
    Lender · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 200 votes
    3y

    That's correct for Agency financing. With private DSCR lenders, you're looking at 3 months title seasoning.

  • Investor · Austin, TX · Member since 2021 · 9k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    3y

    Is DSCR going to follow?

  • Lender · Orange County, CA · Member since 2019 · 299 posts · 255 votes
    3y

    @Eliott Elias not likely. DSCR lenders will mostly be happy to fill the gap left by the agencies.

  • Erik EstradaBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6h

    DSCR lenders do not require any title seasoning to pay off a hard money loan and to cash out.

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