Same DSCR Loan deal, 5 different quotes from 6.75% to 8.50% - how to compare them

Same DSCR Loan deal, 5 different quotes from 6.75% to 8.50% - how to compare them

Robin SimonBusiness Member
Lender · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes

adapted from my dscr loans guide - more relvant now than ever with the crazy rates right now

See a lot of "what are DSCR rates right now?" posts on here, and the honest answer is it depends a LOT on how you structure the loan - theres no single rate even for the same borrower on the same property. Figured I'd share a real example of what I mean.

Same deal on all 5: $500k SFR purchase in a suburban market, LLC borrower with a 745 FICO, $3,300/mo rent, $375/mo taxes and $110/mo insurance.

Option 1 - 80% LTV, 7.000% with 2.5 points, 5-4-3-2-1 step-down prepay. Max leverage, but DSCR is only 1.05x and the points are covering the higher-LTV pricing hit.

Option 2 - 75% LTV, 6.750% with 2.5 points, flat 5% prepay for 5 years. Lowest rate of the bunch, roughly $230/mo less than Option 1 and DSCR goes to 1.13x, but you're locked in with a pretty harsh prepay.

Option 3 - 75% LTV, 7.500% with 0.75 points, same 5-year prepay. Way less out of pocket at closing, but the payment runs about $191/mo more than Option 2, so its roughly a 35 month breakeven on the points - if you think you'll refi or sell before then this one usually wins.

Option 4 - 70% LTV, 7.750% with 0 points ("par"), 5-year prepay. No closing fee, and even with the higher rate the cash flow is fine (1.10x) because the loan is smaller - the extra down payment is still your equity, not money lost.

Option 5 - 75% LTV, 8.500% with 1.5 points, NO prepay. Full flexibility but you pay for it, and it took a 5/6 ARM with partial interest-only just to get the DSCR to 1.05x.

A few takeaways - when you're comparing quotes make sure you're comparing the same LTV, points AND prepay, otherwise a "lower rate" from one lender can easily cost more in the end. Figure out your hold period first (are you refinancing in 2 years or holding 10?) and the right structure usually becomes pretty obvious. And if you're in a state that restricts prepays, expect the no-prepay pricing to be your starting point.

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  • Investor · Augusta · Member since 2024 · 36 posts · 25 votes
    1d

    Robin, great breakdown! This is exactly why I encourage investors to look beyond the interest rate when comparing financing options.

    One thing I'd add is the difference between the lender's DSCR calculation and the investor's actual cash flow.

    Looking at Option 1, the property qualifies at approximately 1.05 DSCR, but that leaves roughly $150 per month after principal, interest, taxes, and insurance, assuming a 30-year amortization. We haven't even accounted for vacancy, maintenance, management, or future capital expenses. That margin can disappear pretty quickly.

    As a broker, I like to start by understanding what the investor is trying to accomplish.

    Are they trying to maximize leverage to acquire more properties? Build long-term cash flow? Or maintain the flexibility to refinance when rates improve?

    Those answers can completely change which of these five options makes the most sense.

    I also think it's important to compare the actual cash needed at closing, monthly cash flow, and the cost of exiting the loan in years 2, 3, or 5. That prepayment penalty can make a significant difference if the investor's plans change.

    At the end of the day, the best financing option isn't necessarily the lowest rate or even the lowest payment. It's the one that supports the investor's strategy without putting unnecessary pressure on their cash flow.

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    • Robin SimonBusiness Member
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      Lender · Austin, TX · Member since 2022 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
      1d

      Yup, definitely important to take into account the "real life" underwritten numbers while also getting the best "on paper" underwriting numbers from your lender!

  • Noah WrightBusiness Member
    USA, Nationwide · Member since 2024 · 306 posts · 117 votes
    21h

    Pricing one file five ways teaches more than any "what are rates" thread, because it shows the rate is one dial among several. The one I'd read closest is Option 5. On a 5/6 ARM the rate is fixed for the first 5 years and then can adjust every 6 months, so the adjustment caps and the margin over the index matter as much as the start rate. Most borrowers compare start rates and never ask for those two numbers. Pairing an ARM with no prepay makes the most sense when the plan is to refinance or sell inside the fixed period. The start rate tells you about the first few years, the caps tell you about the rest.

  • James JonesPro Member
    Investor · Collierville, TN 38017 · Member since 2017 · 891 posts · 624 votes
    18h

    From the borrower's side, I compare these the way I'll actually live with them: total cost over the hold, not the rate on the quote sheet. On my BRRRR refis I take DSCR loans at 70 to 80% LTV on about a 30-year amortization, and the two lines that bite later are points paid at closing and the prepay — a cheap rate with a five-year step-down is expensive if the plan is to refi or sell in three. My sequence: first, does the rent cover the payment at the conservative number, not the lease's best case? Second, what does each option cost me all-in over the years I'll hold it? The lowest rate loses both tests more often than people expect.

  • Ray WilliamsBusiness Member
    Lender · Denver, CO · Member since 2017 · 170 posts · 75 votes
    17h

    Good thread. One thing nobody has mentioned yet: quotes are only comparable if they were priced on the same day with the same lock period. DSCR pricing moves with the market, so a Monday quote and a Thursday quote aren't really the same product, and a 30-day lock versus a 60-day lock can be a quarter point of price by itself. When I review quotes for someone, I ask every lender to price the same scenarios in writing on the same day: same LTV, same prepay, same lock. Then the only things left to compare are rate, points, and fees.

    Fees are the other place people get caught. Points show up on the quote, but underwriting, processing, and doc prep fees often don't, and on non-QM loans those can run $1,500 to $2,500. Add them to the points before you run the breakeven math Robin laid out.

    Last one, and it ties to Option 1 versus Option 2. DSCR pricing is tiered, so dropping from 80% to 75% LTV doesn't only lower the payment. It can push the ratio over a pricing break (often somewhere around 1.0, 1.15, or 1.25, it varies by lender) and improve the rate on its own. If you're sitting at 1.05x, ask each lender where their next tier break is and how much extra down it takes to reach it. Sometimes $10k more down beats paying a full point.

    Love the dialogue.

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