South Floridian buying in Central Florida?

South Floridian buying in Central Florida?

New to Real Estate · Miami · Member since 2025 · 46 posts · 23 votes

I bring up the rental property calculator, and as I’m in South Florida, it shows that nothing cash flows but incorrectly priced properties or unless I significantly increase the down payment to the likes of 80K or 100K. But bringing up Central Florida shows cash flow at the regular/default down payment amounts. I’ve asked before about buying in a different state and have gotten mixed responses. I am waiting for next month to see if a full time position opens up at my work, which would significantly broaden my mortgage/loan possibilities.

Some of my stock positions have gone down, so I consider those funds inaccessible for now. I’m not buying any more risky stocks and am trying to transition everything else I can in my stock portfolio into cash or equivalent. I figure that right now I have about $100K available if I were to liquidate what hasn’t gone down significantly.

If my job situation pans out, I am thinking about making a move to purchase a couple of properties in Central Florida rather than South Florida. I think even paying a property manager would allow for cashflow (obviously I would check before buying any specific property.) In South Florida, though I could self-manage, I would probably only be able to purchase one by using most of my accessible money. I figure that though far away, Central Florida is not another state, and I could be there in 3-4 hours if needed. We even have the Brightline train as an option here.

Could this work and what could I be missing?

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Michael SmytheBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2023 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
1y

Guessing you're looking at Class A properties - which will no cashflow for 3-5 years typically.

Whether you buy locally, central FL or OOS, if you want positive cashflow you'll have to look at Class B or C properties.

What are property Classes?

Read our copy & paste info below:

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Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location/neighborhoods to invest in.

Why is Property Class so important for investors to understand and apply in their investing strategies?

Because the Property Class dictates the Class of the tenant pool that the property will attract.

The Tenant Class greatly impacts rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

Both Property Class and Tenant Class affect what type of contractors, handymen and property management companies will work on a property.

If you buy & renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what Tenant Class will rent it?

Or, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A four-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

So, if you fail to apply the correct assumptions to a property, your expectations won’t be met and it may even be a financial disaster.

We use the following to rank Property Classes, in order of importance:

  • Property Tenant Pool: closely linked to location, but not always.
  • Property Location: closely linked to tenant pool, but not always.
  • Property Condition & Amenities: it’s important to, “Maintain to the Neighborhood.”

Key metrics for each Property Class:

Class A Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.

Class B Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
Tenant Default
: 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Vacancies
: 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.

Class C Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

Class D Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.

Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.

Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?

Check out this chart:

FICO Score

Pct of Population

Default Probability

800 or more

13.00%

1.00%

750-799

27.00%

1.00%

700-749

18.00%

4.40%

650-699

15.00%

8.90%

600-649

12.00%

15.80%

550-599

8.00%

22.50%

500-549

5.00%

28.40%

Less than 499

2.00%

41.00%

Source: Fair Isaac Company

Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

Metro Detroit has 132 cities, the City of Detroit 183 Neighborhoods, which we’re analyzing and classifying. Check out the map on our website where we’ve made this all easy to follow.

We can also share numerous examples of properties & portfolios we’ve assisted investors with!

DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!

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  • Orlando FL/Allentown, PA · Member since 2023 · 36 posts · 24 votes
    1y

    Where exactly in central Florida are you seeing positive cash flow with “default down”? May want to check your numbers..

    • New to Real Estate · Miami · Member since 2025 · 46 posts · 23 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Robert B.:

      Where exactly in central Florida are you seeing positive cash flow with “default down”? May want to check your numbers..

      I'm looking mostly in Polk county.

    • New to Real Estate · Miami · Member since 2025 · 46 posts · 23 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Robert B.:

      Where exactly in central Florida are you seeing positive cash flow with “default down”? May want to check your numbers..

      You may be right. I thought the "Monthly Cash Flow" amount from the rental income calculator took into account all other expenses, but I see now that it does not. Apparently I just have to subtract other expenses manually (at least without a Pro account).
  • Tyler GibsonBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Orlando, FL · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Mat Garcia:

    I bring up the rental property calculator, and as I’m in South Florida, it shows that nothing cash flows but incorrectly priced properties or unless I significantly increase the down payment to the likes of 80K or 100K. But bringing up Central Florida shows cash flow at the regular/default down payment amounts. I’ve asked before about buying in a different state and have gotten mixed responses. I am waiting for next month to see if a full time position opens up at my work, which would significantly broaden my mortgage/loan possibilities.

    Some of my stock positions have gone down, so I consider those funds inaccessible for now. I’m not buying any more risky stocks and am trying to transition everything else I can in my stock portfolio into cash or equivalent. I figure that right now I have about $100K available if I were to liquidate what hasn’t gone down significantly.

    If my job situation pans out, I am thinking about making a move to purchase a couple of properties in Central Florida rather than South Florida. I think even paying a property manager would allow for cashflow (obviously I would check before buying any specific property.) In South Florida, though I could self-manage, I would probably only be able to purchase one by using most of my accessible money. I figure that though far away, Central Florida is not another state, and I could be there in 3-4 hours if needed. We even have the Brightline train as an option here.

    Could this work and what could I be missing?


     Yes, this would work. With the property manager in place, there's very few situations that require you to come physically visit the property. In the past I've successfully helped out-of-state investors buy here in Central Florida and they never visited the property in person. Some of them to this day have never been to the properties in person.

  • Michael SmytheBusiness Member
    Real Estate Agent · Metro Detroit · Member since 2023 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    1y

    Guessing you're looking at Class A properties - which will no cashflow for 3-5 years typically.

    Whether you buy locally, central FL or OOS, if you want positive cashflow you'll have to look at Class B or C properties.

    What are property Classes?

    Read our copy & paste info below:

    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    Recommend you first figure out the property Class you want to invest in, THEN figure out the corresponding location/neighborhoods to invest in.

    Why is Property Class so important for investors to understand and apply in their investing strategies?

    Because the Property Class dictates the Class of the tenant pool that the property will attract.

    The Tenant Class greatly impacts rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.

    Both Property Class and Tenant Class affect what type of contractors, handymen and property management companies will work on a property.

    If you buy & renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what Tenant Class will rent it?

    Or, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A four-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?

    So, if you fail to apply the correct assumptions to a property, your expectations won’t be met and it may even be a financial disaster.

    We use the following to rank Property Classes, in order of importance:

    • Property Tenant Pool: closely linked to location, but not always.
    • Property Location: closely linked to tenant pool, but not always.
    • Property Condition & Amenities: it’s important to, “Maintain to the Neighborhood.”

    Key metrics for each Property Class:

    Class A Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
    Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
    Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.

    Class B Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
    Tenant Default
    : 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Vacancies
    : 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
    Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.

    Class C Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
    Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
    Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
    Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

    Class D Properties:
    Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
    Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.

    Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
    Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
    Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.

    Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?

    Check out this chart:

    FICO Score

    Pct of Population

    Default Probability

    800 or more

    13.00%

    1.00%

    750-799

    27.00%

    1.00%

    700-749

    18.00%

    4.40%

    650-699

    15.00%

    8.90%

    600-649

    12.00%

    15.80%

    550-599

    8.00%

    22.50%

    500-549

    5.00%

    28.40%

    Less than 499

    2.00%

    41.00%

    Source: Fair Isaac Company

    Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.

    Metro Detroit has 132 cities, the City of Detroit 183 Neighborhoods, which we’re analyzing and classifying. Check out the map on our website where we’ve made this all easy to follow.

    We can also share numerous examples of properties & portfolios we’ve assisted investors with!

    DM us if you’d like to discuss this logical approach in greater detail!

    Logical Property Management4.9455 Reviews
  • Todd AndersonPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Cape Coral, FL · Member since 2023 · 392 posts · 175 votes
    1y

    @Mat Garcia,

    The investors that I am working with are finding the same thing in Central Florida right now.  We have been talking to investors about new construction investment properties in Central Florida.  

    With some of the incentives that we are able to find from the builders that we work with we are finding cash flow day one.  This part of the state is growing nicely in population and jobs and has not been overbuilt.  When we negotiate with the builders for the investors that we work with we are able to solve for some of the biggest problems in today's market.  That being interest rates. We are also able to find builder will pay up to two years of the property management.  this also makes the properties create more cash flow.  

    It can be done in the state you are in.

    Best of luck and let me know if you have more questions.  

  • New to Real Estate · Miami, FL · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 465 votes
    1y

    Yes, buying in Central Florida makes sense if the cash flow numbers check out,especially compared to the high prices and low returns in South Florida. Being a few hours away isn’t a deal-breaker, especially with a property manager in place.

    Just be sure to double-check all expenses, taxes, insurance, HOA, and realistic rent comps,before moving forward. Sounds like a smart shift based on your current position.

    • New to Real Estate · Miami · Member since 2025 · 46 posts · 23 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Drago Stanimirovic:

      ...Being a few hours away isn’t a deal-breaker, especially with a property manager in place.

      Would it be possible/practical to manage remotely, being that it is just a few hours away?

    • New to Real Estate · Miami, FL · Member since 2024 · 1k+ posts · 465 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Mat Garcia:
      Quote from @Drago Stanimirovic:

      ...Being a few hours away isn’t a deal-breaker, especially with a property manager in place.

      Would it be possible/practical to manage remotely, being that it is just a few hours away?


       Yes, managing remotely can work, especially since you’re just a few hours away. With the right tools and local contacts, many investors do it successfully. It’s practical for one or two properties, but be prepared for the occasional trip or unexpected issue. You can self-manage at first, then hire a property manager as you scale.



  • Property Manager · Orlando, FL · Member since 2025 · 29 posts · 7 votes
    1y

    Definitely doable - living in SFL and investing in Central. Obviously, it's not ideal to travel 3-4 hours to deal with any issues regardless of how easy the Brightline is. Hiring the right PM company will be a lifesaver. 

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