So what's holding you back?

So what's holding you back?

Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

When I help new investors with buying their first property I often want to know what is holding them back from pulling the trigger.

So I'll ask here. What is holding you back?

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Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 29 posts · 409 votes
7y

Having just recently bought my first property, I know for myself what was holding me back was the fear that I would overpay, especially in this type of a market. I would get analysis paralysis and basically talk myself out of every property I looked at.

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  • Member since 2019 · 1 post · 1 vote
    7y

    @Frank Patalano

    Not understanding the financing side. I’m pretty comfortable with the physical property side. The financing, and everything involved with it terrifies me. I’m looking a property now and need to figure out how to fund it... any advice on books to read or other sources of information for creative financing?

  • Member since 2018 · 13 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano, What holding me back is money and fear of failure. I want to take a loan out, but credit is fair right now. But I am definitely working on it. I get disability income but I don’t want to be on it. I am to young for disability income. Also, I do not want to work for anyone else, meaning I don’t want to be a employee. I want to build wealth.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Eric Hurtt:

    @Frank Patalano

    I haven't purchased my first property yet. I want to purchase a full duplex. I keep going back and fourth on doing a BRRR or just buying a full duplex that's move in ready. I know that a BRRR property would make more money and probably more business since but it seems like more risk and more cash is needed up front.

     I don't know what the phrase full-duplex means. You could go either way. Buying a turnkey is definitely less costly but in the long run will probably make you less profit. House hacking is still better than buying a single-family, so go for either way. More importantly, take action. No quadruplex in your future?

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @John Stetson:

    crap credit from a divorce, but my score is up from a 492 last year to 683. Debt free and currently saving a down payment. I should be over 700 and have enough of a down payment for a duplex or triplex house hack by next year

     Okay. One step at a time. Just set realistic goals on how much you think you can save every month. How many pages can you read a day? How many podcasts can you listen to? Start networking. Keep educating. I was in Boston six times in the last month networking.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Natasha B.:

    @Frank Patalano, What holding me back is money and fear of failure. I want to take a loan out, but credit is fair right now. But I am definitely working on it. I get disability income but I don’t want to be on it. I am to young for disability income. Also, I do not want to work for anyone else, meaning I don’t want to be a employee. I want to build wealth.

     What are the things that you are currently doing to make sure that you never have to be an employee? What what strategy for investing are you currently focused on?

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Robert L Rossman II:

    @Frank Patalano

    Not understanding the financing side. I’m pretty comfortable with the physical property side. The financing, and everything involved with it terrifies me. I’m looking a property now and need to figure out how to fund it... any advice on books to read or other sources of information for creative financing?

     Check out this Blog on Bigger Pockets...



    https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/creative-financing


  • Member since 2018 · 13 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    I am honestly not sure what you mean. I have just been paying my credit to get it back up.  If your asking the things I focus on is either wholesaling or selling real estate. My plan is to get a score up and take out a loan from the bank to buy a two-family. My other idea is to start wholesaling. I live in Ohio and I think I would need a broker license to do it. I think wholesaling is illegal here. Do you have any suggestions? 

    @Frank Patalano

  • Rental Property Investor · Metro Detroit, MI · Member since 2018 · 2 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Frank Patalano good ways of finding deals

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Natasha B.:

    I am honestly not sure what you mean. I have just been paying my credit to get it back up.  If your asking the things I focus on is either wholesaling or selling real estate. My plan is to get a score up and take out a loan from the bank to buy a two-family. My other idea is to start wholesaling. I live in Ohio and I think I would need a broker license to do it. I think wholesaling is illegal here. Do you have any suggestions?

     You said that you never wanted to be an employee. I wasn't sure if you were doing something specific already to follow that path.

    There are ways to borrow money without having a bank. 

    For example if you have the time you could find a partner with money but no time and flip houses. Not wholesale. Fix and flip.

    I don't know if wholesaling is illegal or not in your state. Go to your local real estate group and ask there.

  • Member since 2018 · 13 posts · 3 votes
    7y

    How would I find a partner? Just don't know exactly how to approach or locate a partner. Is a partner someone I know? Or is this consider angel investing?  I will look into a real estate group about wholesaling. Is there something I could read so I can find a partner that you might know about?

    Thank you.

    @Frank Patalano

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Natasha B.:

    How would I find a partner? Just don't know exactly how to approach or locate a partner. Is a partner someone I know? Or is this consider angel investing?  I will look into a real estate group about wholesaling. Is there something I could read so I can find a partner that you might know about?

    Thank you.

    @Frank Patalano

     Join as many local REIAs as you have time to go to. 

    Usually a money partner is someone whom you already know. They want to get into real estate but they have no time to get involved. You are doing all of the work, they are providing the money.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Cole Burgess:

    @Frank Patalano good ways of finding deals

    Not MLS!!!!

    Off Market. Networking. Sending out letters. Housing Violations. etc.

  • Investor · Columbia, SC · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 2 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Andrew R. Lucas:

    Great point @Frank Patalano.  Hey @Ricky Jackson, Jr. here is your next networking event to attend: 

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/521/topics/731824-rei-live-columbia-sc-meet-up

    You will meet plenty of connections there to help you get going!

    Thanks for the insights and the meet up invite! 

  • Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano

    I’m in learning mode right now. I’ve learned a lot in past 4 weeks and hope to make first offer in August. I’ve aligned mortgage lenders, and investors, have contractors aligned to do work, have just recently found real estate agent that understands what I want to do, which is own single family and duplex properties. What’s holding me back is two things. First do you base your estimate on 15 or 30 year loans?

    Second question is on foreclosures. I’ve been on websites like Auction.com, what I don’t know is what to ask or check for prior to bidding?

    Excited to get number one and the next one soon after.

  • Leominster, MA · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano The uncertainty of venturing into uncharted waters. It's the deep breath before the plunge.

    In simplest terms; failure.

    But I/ we (my wife) are working on it.

  • Investor · Wake Forest, NC · Member since 2016 · 1 post · 2 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano

    I live in the Raleigh-Durham area and the competition is fierce. Not having cash on hand to make deals quickly puts me at a disadvantage. There are plenty of deals to make but lack of readily accessible cash holds me back. That said, I have 2 rehabs happening now and 2 more under contract. While I will make money, I likely overpaid but it was a risk I chose to take just to break into the market, network, and establish relationships I hope will pay off in the future.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Scott Walters:

    @Frank Patalano

    I’m in learning mode right now. I’ve learned a lot in past 4 weeks and hope to make first offer in August. I’ve aligned mortgage lenders, and investors, have contractors aligned to do work, have just recently found real estate agent that understands what I want to do, which is own single family and duplex properties. What’s holding me back is two things. First do you base your estimate on 15 or 30 year loans?

    Second question is on foreclosures. I’ve been on websites like Auction.com, what I don’t know is what to ask or check for prior to bidding?

    Excited to get number one and the next one soon after.

    I always base my estimates on 30 year amortizations. Inflation keeps reducing the price of the dollar. Also, you will be making the same payment with higher rents over time.

     You have an agent. He should explain to you what to check. Auction websites have special rules. Check the zoning. The housing violations. Can you see the inside? If so bring someone who knows a little about rehabbing but is willing to walk with you for free. Find out if there is a buyer's premium. There is plenty more but I have not bought from an auction website before.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Matt Lanza:

    @Frank Patalano The uncertainty of venturing into uncharted waters. It's the deep breath before the plunge.

    In simplest terms; failure.

    But I/ we (my wife) are working on it.

     Matt, I understand. I lost money on my first deal. But failures make me stronger. I still fail once in a while, especially when I get too confident or start to take to on a lot of risk.

  • Member since 2019 · 6 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    @Frank Patalano in short : money :(

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Nick Senuta:

    @Frank Patalano

    I live in the Raleigh-Durham area and the competition is fierce. Not having cash on hand to make deals quickly puts me at a disadvantage. There are plenty of deals to make but lack of readily accessible cash holds me back. That said, I have 2 rehabs happening now and 2 more under contract. While I will make money, I likely overpaid but it was a risk I chose to take just to break into the market, network, and establish relationships I hope will pay off in the future.

    Nick. You are doing great. This is a beginner forum. You have 2 rehabs right now and 2 under contract. Wow. You will learn a lot from these. Keep it up. Keep networking. Keep learning. Yes Raleigh is hot. If you want start to send out your own mailers. Find your own opportunities, hopefully with no competition. 

  • Investor · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2016 · 5 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Frank Patalano Trying to find properties that aren't overpriced in the current market. I want to grow my holdings but I will not make unsustainable purchases just to grow.

    Also I have a top tier credit score, and I don't want to wreck it with reepated hard pulls from banks for loans, so I'm looking for diamonds in the rough when it comes to private lenders who will loan at low rates w/o credit pulls.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Hassan Habib:

    @Frank Patalano in short : money :(

     What type of investing do you plan on doing?

    You can be successful at real estate if you are strong in one of the following. Money, Time, Experience.

    If you can put in the time you can find partners with money but no time to do deals with.

  • Rental Property Investor · East Providence, RI · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Brian Witherby:

    @Frank Patalano Trying to find properties that aren't overpriced in the current market. I want to grow my holdings but I will not make unsustainable purchases just to grow.

    Also I have a top tier credit score, and I don't want to wreck it with reepated hard pulls from banks for loans, so I'm looking for diamonds in the rough when it comes to private lenders who will loan at low rates w/o credit pulls.

     I agree about many overpriced options. The best deals are the ones that you find yourself.

    I've never had a private lender pull my credit before. Weird. Probably because all of my loans are referral based.

  • Realtor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2019 · 32 posts · 11 votes
    7y
    Thank you! Love that the advise is practical and things that I can accomplish immediately. What are your favorite resources when looking into other markets? There have to better tools than just Zillow or other sites like that. 

    Originally posted by @Frank Patalano:

     Set goals. Read so many Pages a week. Listen to a set number of podcasts a day. Go to to real estate meetups a month. Two or three times a year I go down to a meet-up in Brooklyn. Going to other markets is important. I've networked up in Boston six times in the last 2 weeks. I've heard about some opportunities in Albany, Troy, and Schenectady area. I like Fishkill myself but have not looked at it in a few years. Don't wait for the perfect property. If I did I would still be waiting. Try to run the numbers and buy one that makes sense even if it's not perfect.

  • Member since 2019 · 1 post · 1 vote
    7y

    @Frank Patalano

    I have capital, some time, I just (1 week ago) decided that I want to start investing. However, I need a mentor!

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