How to lose money in tax liens

How to lose money in tax liens

Delafield, WI · Member since 2013 · 3 posts · 1 vote

Purchasing OTC tax liens can be fun but here are two examples of how to lose money when a purchased tax lien is redeemed.
Mohave and Maricopa Counties in Az both charge administrative fees that must be paid by the purchaser of a tax lien. I was unaware of these administrative fees and it resulted in a negative return....always read the find print!!!
Examples:
1)Mohave County--tax lien purchased for $384.40 at 12%, earned $14.78 in interest and had to pay $10 processing fee and $10 auction fee....net loss $5.22
2) Maricopa County--tax lien purchased for $35.67 at 10% earned $.28 in interest and had to pay a $5 processing fee .....net loss $4.72

I don't understand why the tax lien purchaser has to pay for the administration fees. So read the fine print for each county you want to purchase a tax lien in and understand what fees have to be paid and who has to pay them :)

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  • Joel OwensBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    13y

    Does the admin fee go up for how big the tax lien is or does it reach a cap??

    If a cap then you want to target above a certain threshold that even after admin fees you will see your target positive return.

    If it's too small as mentioned above then it doesn't make sense to buy it.

  • Abingdon, MD · Member since 2013 · 193 posts · 60 votes
    13y

    Thanks for the Post Deane, I got really worried when I first saw the title. Being that I am new and getting ready to start in Tax Lien Investing. It does stink to lose money, (especially in fees). But it wasn't a disaster. It sounds like both liens redeemed in a short amount of time. Had the owner taken more time to pay thier taxes, you would of profitted. Had they taken too long, you would of had an oppurtunity to foreclose on the properties. (assuming you can in WI). I guess that's the gamble you take, purchasing the smaller liens.

    I avoided the auction becuase of the $100 registration fee. Now I'm wondering if I will get hit with a small fee at the counter.

  • Delafield, WI · Member since 2013 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    13y

    Joel, the admin fees are not tied to the cost of the lien rather they are straight $5 or $10 fees. Obviously the bigger the face value of the tax lien or the longer it takes to redeem the greater the chance the cost of the admin fees will be recouped. This was just a little "gottcha" of which I was not aware.

  • Dawn AnastasiPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2013 · 6k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    13y

    Deane Jaeger -- I am also in WI. Can you please explain why you chose to invest in tax liens in AZ and what your plans are if the owner does not pay?

  • Delafield, WI · Member since 2013 · 3 posts · 1 vote
    13y

    Dawn, I invest in online tax liens and Az is one of the states that offer online bidding. It is the opportunity to use online bidding as opposed to in-person bidding that is attractive to me. If the property owner does not redeem the tax lien in the appropriate amount of time then the foreclosure process is the next step.

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