Growth Equity Group - How 170+ investors were scammed

Growth Equity Group - How 170+ investors were scammed

Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

In 2014-2015, more than 170 investors purchased 2 and 3 bedroom condo units from Growth Equity Group. This company specializes in investment properties in a self-directed IRA. More than 85% of their sales are bought in this fashion.

Business was solicited mainly at investment conferences (Las Vegas a popular site), and some here at BP. I was one of those people who fell for their marketing.

I was sold a condo in a neighborhood in Virginia (specific details to be disclosed later). They sold me the condo for almost $90K. The property value was however, at best, $65K. They came with sweet talk, a personable friendly nature, like a predator (although I didn't know it at the time.) They only allowed an appraisal to be performed through them. One can see why, a legitimate appraiser operating legally would not appraise these condos for what they were selling for.

Growth Equity Group sold units to more than 170+ investors. 3BRs went for $96K, 2BR for $86K. Of course, they also used an "in house" lender specializing in non-recourse loans. They wouldn't allow you to use your own lender. It sounds fishy looking back at it, but not when they present it in a such a welcoming and favorable way. The rate would be 5%, which would balloon to 9% in 4 years!

I see three main issues with what transpired:

1. Sales. Growth Equity Group knowingly sold condos which were valued at $60-65K, for $85K-100K. They did this with open eyes and a smile. They even rushed me to sign on the dotted line.

2. The Appraisal process. Appraisers in the past have been fined and jailed for falsifying numbers, for elevating the appraisal amount. If the appraiser is on the payroll of the company who is selling you a property, or they are getting business or money from the company who is selling you the property, this is a major conflict of interest.

3. Financing. Industry standard for a non-resource loan is - during the balloon period, the interest rate cannot go up more than 0.5% per year or more than 2% total, no matter the interest rate environment. Growth Equity Group again used a lender that they were "working with" and did not let you use your own lender. Their loans carried an interest rate of 5%, which immediately jumps to 9% at the 4 year mark.

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Asheville, NC · Member since 2017 · 170 posts · 242 votes
7y

@Andrey Y.

I’m so sorry this happened to you.

I would comment further but I got stuck at the part where you refer to people in their 50’s as elderly.

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  • Rental Property Investor · St. Louis, MO · Member since 2015 · 41 posts · 28 votes
    7y

    I was not part of the Virginia development but bought into one of their deals in Dyersburg, TN. It's the exact same story, just with numbers about half of what the OP had (purchase price $55k, down payment $30k). Mine was not in an IRA, so I guess I could take the loss if I walked away. This was before I was doing this full-time. I would NEVER even consider this house today. I actually forgot I still need to deal with this headache...

    My tenant is a long term tenant. He was there before I bought the house and still is and has always paid the same price.  So it is odd that the price that GEG told me my rent was in the pro-forma was 25% higher than what was being paid and increasing every year.  When I spoke with the property manager they said there is no way I could get more than I was getting without significant work and upgrades to the house. To be fair, I think they were probably put in a tough situation.

    When I talked to GEG about it they give some excuse about how they give you a one-time payment for the first year differences 6-months into ownership.  Ignoring the fact that the ENTIRE BASIS of the purchases is predicated on the rent being what they stated. This IS in their paperwork, but as you are signing it you are thinking "who cares, the rent is what you told me it is". In other words, they aren't super clear on the fact that they are just basically making up numbers on the pro-forma, not even the current rent, which they DO have, is used.

    Their pro-forma is a real piece of work. I mean it's a wonderland for people who like to play in Excel all day, but it's just pencil-whipping a property. Value is built up around assumed appreciation. 

    Does anyone have an interest in seeing the paperwork from this deal (with personal information removed obviously)?

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Matt Bowler:

    I was not part of the Virginia development but bought into one of their deals in Dyersburg, TN. It's the exact same story, just with numbers about half of what the OP had (purchase price $55k, down payment $30k). Mine was not in an IRA, so I guess I could take the loss if I walked away. This was before I was doing this full-time. I would NEVER even consider this house today. I actually forgot I still need to deal with this headache...

    My tenant is a long term tenant. He was there before I bought the house and still is and has always paid the same price.  So it is odd that the price that GEG told me my rent was in the pro-forma was 25% higher than what was being paid and increasing every year.  When I spoke with the property manager they said there is no way I could get more than I was getting without significant work and upgrades to the house. To be fair, I think they were probably put in a tough situation.

    When I talked to GEG about it they give some excuse about how they give you a one-time payment for the first year differences 6-months into ownership.  Ignoring the fact that the ENTIRE BASIS of the purchases is predicated on the rent being what they stated. This IS in their paperwork, but as you are signing it you are thinking "who cares, the rent is what you told me it is". In other words, they aren't super clear on the fact that they are just basically making up numbers on the pro-forma, not even the current rent, which they DO have, is used.

    Their pro-forma is a real piece of work. I mean it's a wonderland for people who like to play in Excel all day, but it's just pencil-whipping a property. Value is built up around assumed appreciation. 

    Does anyone have an interest in seeing the paperwork from this deal (with personal information removed obviously)?

     "they aren't super clear on the fact that they are just basically making up numbers on the pro-forma"

    Now, that is an understatement! The made up appraisal number (if one was even done) and the lending terms is what gets me. To think they could lie to so many people at scale and get away with it, and do it with a straight face.. is making money worth it when you are knowingly cheating others out of theirs?

    Sure please share the pro-forma. The lessons learned from this are so valuable to me. It's hard for me to put a price on it.

  • Member since 2018 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    I just joined this website and thread after doing a google search on Growth Equity Group. I am another person who was scammed by them -- it has taken me several months to track down this group as the actual 'seller' of properties I bought in VA in 2014. It is a long story, but the short of it is that I put the bulk of my retirement savings into these condos after "working with" a financial adviser who seemed to be genuinely interested in helping me with retirement planning. I was terribly mislead and at this time have both condos on the market. I bought two (their plan) for $115,900 each w/ a mortgage on each of them -- they just sold in the low $60,000s and at this time I still owe about 51,000 on each. I was terribly mislead, trusting the financial adviser because I considered him the "expert" in a field in which I have no to little experience.

    This was the bulk of my retirement savings and the "gentlemen" who guided me knew that at the time. I was 62 yrs old then and am now 66. I have lost over $100,000 because of the misguidance. I would like to know if there is any legal recourse and I plan to contact a real estate attorney for advice. I thought that introducing myself here might be a good next step in an attempt to reach others in a similar situation w/ Growth Equity Group. My units were purchased in October 2014 for $69,400 and on the same day sold to me for $115,900 each. I am astounded that the financial planner sold me two -- I could have bought one without a mortgage and then I would possibly be in a little better situation than I find myself in at this time. By selling me two he was able to make twice as much. He made about $93,000 in one day by misleading me. Not only is this terribly unethical, but I also consider it a form of elder abuse. Although I don't like to think of myself as an elder, I checked the definition of "elder" and I fit in the category. I am curious if this situation could be considered for a class action lawsuit.

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Barbara B.:

    I just joined this website and thread after doing a google search on Growth Equity Group. I am another person who was scammed by them -- it has taken me several months to track down this group as the actual 'seller' of properties I bought in VA in 2014. It is a long story, but the short of it is that I put the bulk of my retirement savings into these condos after "working with" a financial adviser who seemed to be genuinely interested in helping me with retirement planning. I was terribly mislead and at this time have both condos on the market. I bought two (their plan) for $115,900 each w/ a mortgage on each of them -- they just sold in the low $60,000s and at this time I still owe about 51,000 on each. I was terribly mislead, trusting the financial adviser because I considered him the "expert" in a field in which I have no to little experience.

    This was the bulk of my retirement savings and the "gentlemen" who guided me knew that at the time. I was 62 yrs old then and am now 66. I have lost over $100,000 because of the misguidance. I would like to know if there is any legal recourse and I plan to contact a real estate attorney for advice. I thought that introducing myself here might be a good next step in an attempt to reach others in a similar situation w/ Growth Equity Group. My units were purchased in October 2014 for $69,400 and on the same day sold to me for $115,900 each. I am astounded that the financial planner sold me two -- I could have bought one without a mortgage and then I would possibly be in a little better situation than I find myself in at this time. By selling me two he was able to make twice as much. He made about $93,000 in one day by misleading me. Not only is this terribly unethical, but I also consider it a form of elder abuse. Although I don't like to think of myself as an elder, I checked the definition of "elder" and I fit in the category. I am curious if this situation could be considered for a class action lawsuit.

     I think there is definitely a case for a class action lawsuit. The problem goes even deeper than you may know. Send me a private message on here and we can talk further on the phone.

    There are several other folks that are looking to pursue legal action that the local realtor told me about. I haven't yet asked for their names as I've been trying to deal with an eviction and getting the unit re-rented. There is a wave of people in the complex just looking to sell these units and be done with it.

  • Member since 2018 · 2 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    Thank you for your reply, Andrey. I would be grateful to talk with you. I will figure out how to send a private message sometime this week. I am in CA on PST and will contact you when I can. Again, thanks for your interest and support. 

  • Verde Valley Arizona USA · Member since 2018 · 115 posts · 98 votes
    7y

    Gather your hurt investors together and find a litigation attorney to sue GEG. Did GEG get into your Roth IRA, too?

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Henry Kaldenbaugh:

    Gather your hurt investors together and find a litigation attorney to sue GEG. Did GEG get into your Roth IRA, too?

     We have. I can't comment on the legal stuff for now as anyone can view it. GEG has dissolved that entity as are still doing the same thing in other cities under a different name.

  • Member since 2019 · 1 post · 0 votes
    7y

    Andrey,  I purchased a property in 2014 in Tulsa from GEG with the exact same story.  My loan had a balloon which is up now.  Is it too late to join your litigation?  

  • Investor · Weston, WI · Member since 2016 · 105 posts · 114 votes
    7y

    I'm curious about your property. What did you end up doing with it? Did you walk away? Do you still own it?

  • Investor · Naples, FL · Member since 2016 · 256 posts · 75 votes
    7y

    I also fell victim to GEG...........

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Eric M.:

    I'm curious about your property. What did you end up doing with it? Did you walk away? Do you still own it?

    Ended up dumping it. Lost about $25,000 on it. Been super busy moving overseas and with other investments so I hadn't even thought about it recently. So glad to be out of this.

  • Investor · Naples, FL · Member since 2016 · 256 posts · 75 votes
    7y

    You can file a complaint with the Cook County attorney general. If they receive enough complaints they will investigate.

    Mortgage Fraud Investigations and Prosecutions Unit

    2650 S. California, 13th Floor
    Chicago, IL 60608
    https://www.cookcountystatesat...

  • Investor · Fremont, CA · Member since 2015 · 211 posts · 125 votes
    6y

    Growth equity group is back with new name sdirawealth. I wonder how they survive and how to hold them accountable?

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Harish V.:

    Growth equity group is back with new name sdirawealth. I wonder how they survive and how to hold them accountable?

     No idea but I forgot that fiasco like a bad dream.

    They survive because they have no qualms about lying to someone's face to get them to part with their hard-earned money. There will always be people like this. Sad.

  • Member since 2018 · 563 posts · 562 votes
    6y

    WOW, now I understand why you were so cryptic in my apartment syndication thread.

    Please remember sociopaths and psychopaths are about 1-3/100 so that means there are around 75-300 million of them on planet. They view world as "wolf or sheep", meaning you either hunt or be hunted, kill or be killed. The financial industry and a few other industries attract(and reward) a slightly higher rate of these personality types.

    It's sad to be victimized, especially when the most basic RE investment principals would have helped all involved avoid the scam.

  • Member since 2020 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    I can be added to the trail of tears on this one.  Hopefully I will be out of it soon but I too will have lost a significant portion of my retirement investment.  Lesson is... don't trust people that are not hired to represent you... don't buy anything that you can't see, inspect and manage the managers.

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @B Smith:

    I can be added to the trail of tears on this one.  Hopefully I will be out of it soon but I too will have lost a significant portion of my retirement investment.  Lesson is... don't trust people that are not hired to represent you... don't buy anything that you can't see, inspect and manage the managers.

     PM me. We'll get you on our email string.

  • Member since 2020 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    Finally got out of this nightmare.  GEG now gone and renamed themselves SDIRA Wealth.  The company they colluded with to make a mortgage for and manage the property has also folded up shop and apparently left town.  I will be filing a complaint with states Atty. office.  These guys are really bad news and it appears they are going to keep defrauding people out of their life savings as long as there are people that are gullible enough to go along with their promise of stable consistent portfolio growth.

  • Specialist · Honolulu, HI · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @B Smith:

    Finally got out of this nightmare.  GEG now gone and renamed themselves SDIRA Wealth.  The company they colluded with to make a mortgage for and manage the property has also folded up shop and apparently left town.  I will be filing a complaint with states Atty. office.  These guys are really bad news and it appears they are going to keep defrauding people out of their life savings as long as there are people that are gullible enough to go along with their promise of stable consistent portfolio growth.

     Make sure you get the three names of the guys involved (all can be found in this thread)

  • Member since 2020 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    George Golub - Sales Guy from GEG.  Now VP of SDIRA Wealth

    Jonathan Borkowsky - Sarno Properties

    Jonathan was never mentioned on any of the contracts but his name is all over the property title. At one time he was a real estate agent in the Chicago area. It appears he was connected with or an officer of Sarno Investments or Sarno Properties or Sarno Management all different LLC's. They recently sold their office/home/property and moved... no forwarding address.

    Jonathan at one point masqueraded as a third party real estate agent that was going to help me get out of the property by selling it for less than it was worth.  

    Sarno Management is the company that was locked into the hard money loan contract (mortgage holder) as the management company for this turnkey property.  As time went on, and as things started to unravel I started to see how much mismanagement was being done... how much was not being fixed, how the property was not being kept up and how the tenants were being ignored.  So sad they have done this to so many.  Hope this helps someone else.  I don't know How SDIRA Wealth is able to stay in business without having some of this baggage attached to them.  When you do google searches you can't find anything on them.

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    Rental Property Investor · memphis, TN · Member since 2009 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    5y

    @Andrey Y. I guess I started following this thread  a long time ago and saw a new post this am.  I hate that you guys are having to deal with this stuff.   Hopefully this doesn't get too much more convoluted, but there is a connection with SDIRA wealth and Morris invest team as well.  

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