Foreign Investor - How I turned $500K into $2M

Foreign Investor - How I turned $500K into $2M

Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes

Just thought I would provide an account of my journey since I started investing in US property market in 2011 and more recently Detroit. Perhaps this can provide some inspiration/feedback for any wannabe foreign investors, it can be done. If you can invest from overseas, you most certainly can do it from outer of state too. 

I had plenty of people, family and friends give me at least 5 good reasons why I should not invest in the US market. But fortunately I ignored this and just continued doing my homework, flying over regularly to US and sorting out the best way to move forward to make it work for me.

At this time the US property market was a basket case, and I could see with the right systems in place I could buy cheap properties that would be cash flowing from day 1. I also thought how low could prices go, some States hit 70% drops, pretty scary stuff.

I started investing in Atlanta in 2011, when the market started rising, and pumped about $500,000 cash buying SFH at around $35,000-50,000 price range (each), these were 2500 sq ft homes, in South Atlanta, in the main distressed properties/foreclosures.

 At this time financing was not an option for foreigners so all my properties were cash buys, however this has changed significantly. Today there are more financial options for foreigners. 

As we know many markets have rebounded from when the market peaked/crashed in 2007? and Atlanta is no exception, these properties today are worth at least $200,000+ each. 

So it really was not that hard, the rising market  turned my $500,000 into over $2,000,000 USD

These homes today rent for approximately $1400-1500 per month. Rents have slowly risen in the last couple of years in Atlanta. But when I was buying rents were pretty much stagnant.

My Atlanta properties today generate an income of approximately $10,000 per month (net)

Fast forward today...........am playing in the Detroit market, seems to be many opportunities, whether I can repeat what I did in Atlanta.... only time will tell, fingers crossed:)

I have been purchasing a mix of C and B grade SFH using cash for now, on average generating around 15% net returns. I have a couple of properties that I will be flipping next year as some markets are appreciating nicely and I would like to bring capital back to the table, rinse and repeat. The idea is to have some cheaper properties that are cash flowing and some purely for flipping.

I have a lot to learn about this market, and it certainly is different from the Atlanta market. 

Its been 12 months to date and  I have now bedded 10 properties where I have sourced good property management, not the easiest thing to do, I believe for a foreigner/out of state investor if you get this right you are 80% there. 

There are certain areas that I am targeting that are safe areas and have a mix of home owners/renters. 

My idea at the moment is to continue increasing my cashflow which is now at around -

$15,000 per month

I am not foolish enough to believe its going to be all smooth sailing, hardly.... Detroit is a beast and I have had some unpleasant experiences, but persistence is something I can do.  

 I plan to revisit this thread in 12 months time and give you an update on my journey

Happy investing everyone

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Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
7y

timing is everything.. and you timed it perfectly . you made your equity on Appreciation.. BP most folks think its gambling etc etc. .when in fact appreciation is what makes most investors wealthy.. either by organic or forced..

I would not expect the same results in Detroit though..   PS there are lenders for your situation.. I have done well over 200 buy hold loans for Aussies..  rates are higher but in your case in Atl you would have been able to double what you bought with the same cash and well now you would have 4 mil in property instead of 2 mil.. by simply pay a little over market rates for debt.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Odessa, FL · Member since 2017 · 145 posts · 113 votes
    7y

    My 2 cents: 
    The US market is HOT no doubt about that. Prices are increasing everywhere and in places they are not there's probably a reason for that. Places like Indianapolis and Detroit where you can still pick up relatively inexpensive properties, they may cash flow but are not likely to appreciate with the same trajectory as the Atlanta properties from 2011.  

    We're in an Economic phase that everybody has money, and the ones that don't can easily access credit (other people's money). Deals today are not even close to being the same type of deals that were in 2009-2011. Thats why I'm slowing down my spending waiting for better opportunities to come.

    Cash is also a position.

  • Bellevue, WA · Member since 2019 · 19 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @Marisa R. Thank you for sharing! Very inspiring for a newbie like me who's researching and getting ready for out of state BRRRR.

    How did you manage rehab from afar? Are there tips and tricks you can share? I can imagine it'll be even harder from out of country and totally different time zone. So far rehab management remotely is my biggest fear and I'm doing all education I can to overcome that.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Marisa R.:
    Originally posted by @Jim Chuong:

    @Marisa R.congrats! Amazing story! I resonated with this because as a Canadian, this is exactly what I did in Phoenix! Buying detached houses for $50k and 2/2 condos for $30k! More power to you!

    Great.  Good on you

    we got the timing right

    Now we just find the next market that is rising

    What do they say.....

    Fortune favors the bold

    Believe Canada market has softened???? Is this correct

    the issue you have with so many US investors is they are feed this appreciation is gambling cash flow day one is the right way to do it.. when in fact its one way.. but not necessarily the best way . just look at all the arguments 5 years ago with SF BAy area investors and every one else.. well the SF investors killed it with appreciation .. were as cash flow is cash flow if the values never rise you need to have some scale.. other wise its just a slow way to build equity over time IE your tenants pay your house off.. the big wealth builders are forced appreciation or organice appreciation. you get of course by major remodel refurb.. and or getting ahead of the market.. researching were trends are going IE the move back into the urban core hip cool neighborhoods.. you take some risk sure.. and in the beginning there is not much or any cash flow but then when houses start selling to owner occ the game is on.. if SFR homes really never sell to owner occ they will just trundle along and the value will only be what another investor will pay for a given rental rate.. pop it into the BP calculator and that spits out the value.. which stays stagnet unless rents rise a ton.. which in many markets that simply does not happen rents stay pretty stable.. so for the blue collar type rental areas or towns.. that's the stability.. not much up but not much down so you need Doors.. and then to get doors U need ton of debt generally.. and that alone takes on risk of some sort.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    My 2 cents: 
    The US market is HOT no doubt about that. Prices are increasing everywhere and in places they are not there's probably a reason for that. Places like Indianapolis and Detroit where you can still pick up relatively inexpensive properties, they may cash flow but are not likely to appreciate with the same trajectory as the Atlanta properties from 2011.  

    We're in an Economic phase that everybody has money, and the ones that don't can easily access credit (other people's money). Deals today are not even close to being the same type of deals that were in 2009-2011. Thats why I'm slowing down my spending waiting for better opportunities to come.

    Cash is also a position.

    those market conditions are going to be hard to replicate.. maybe something else will causes massive devaluation of real estate ..  

  • Atlanta, GA · Member since 2019 · 10 posts · 2 votes
    7y

    @Marisa R.

    This is incredible I live in Atlanta and I’m about to start my Rental investing career. This post gives me hope that I can still profit well in Atlanta. What are some of the areas you recommend?

  • Rental Property Investor · Odessa, FL · Member since 2017 · 145 posts · 113 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
    Originally posted by @Account Closed:

    My 2 cents: 
    The US market is HOT no doubt about that. Prices are increasing everywhere and in places they are not there's probably a reason for that. Places like Indianapolis and Detroit where you can still pick up relatively inexpensive properties, they may cash flow but are not likely to appreciate with the same trajectory as the Atlanta properties from 2011.  

    We're in an Economic phase that everybody has money, and the ones that don't can easily access credit (other people's money). Deals today are not even close to being the same type of deals that were in 2009-2011. Thats why I'm slowing down my spending waiting for better opportunities to come.

    Cash is also a position.

    those market conditions are going to be hard to replicate.. maybe something else will causes massive devaluation of real estate ..  

     Thats one of the reasons maintaining a cash position is a good idea. But who knows ? you could be sitting on a pile of cash for 10 years

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 5 posts · 4 votes
    7y

    Love your story.  Truly inspirational. Keep at it.

  • Lititz, PA · Member since 2013 · 595 posts · 272 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
    Originally posted by @Max T.:

    How did u get the 500k?

    I think I recall like many aussies they had massive appreciation .. so many in that country back then did a few things.

    they either sold and moved equity or they borrowed against their equity and invested in the US.. some did great like the OP others got hammered because they bought C D F class.. in many other markets. 

    on top of that the AUD was at a historic high against the dollar. 

    Class F?  Yikes!  I didn't know that asset class even existed!  I saw the Aussies get hammered when they were buying rough sfh in a working class town with one major employer that lays people off on a regular basis.

  • Realtor · Boulder, CO · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    7y

    @Marisa R. Congrats on your success and thanks for sharing your story! It’s really cool to see mo-town having a resurgence (at least I hope it is). Just curious what lead you to invest there... Have you seen a change in the market fundamentals that lead to Detroit’s collapse? We know the auto manufacturing jobs that the city was built on aren’t likely coming back so is there something else happening there that you see reversing the downward spiral? If it’s limited to outside investment and “urban revitalization” funds, I’d be worried those efforts are simply creating a bubble. If/when the market turns, credit markets will tighten, people from high-earning, high appreciation areas will have less disposable income burning a whole in their pocket causing them to want to invest in low cost/high risk places like the rust belt. So cities like Detroit that have been suffering from population decline, dilapidated housing stock, high crime, high taxes, poor tenant base, cops that won’t go to certain neighborhoods never mind PMs etc.... what’s to stop those areas that have had poor fundamentals for the better part of a century from reverting back to what they were before the recent influx of outside capital? Is the bubble effect something you’ve considered? Just seems like Atlanta and Detroit are opposites in that way: Atlanta is a place with strong fundamentals: incredible job growth and a population explosion where everyone who owns property has made easy money. Detroit is a great city with tons of cool history, the best music and awesome people but it has been suffering steady post-industrial decline, lack of jobs, population decline and is well know as an extremely risky place to invest except for a very recent uptick. Do you feel that recent uptick is sustainable, as in based on actual market metrics indicating an upward trend or is it simply being driven by outside investors a.k.a “dumb money”? I guess my question is are you long term bullish buy and hold on Detroit (and if so what do you see as driving the positive change), or are you planning to get in and get out before the market turns and the money coming in from outside the city dries up? Just curious as I’ve read a lot of posts on Detroit lately and it seems very high risk to me. The rising tide of a 10 year bull market has raised all the ships but that doesn’t mean those ships will stay afloat when the tide goes out.

  • Shea SpinelliPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 198 posts · 89 votes
    7y

    @Marisa R. Nicely done, impressive. Keep it up - you always inspire!

    What part of Australia are you from? I spent a couple weeks on the East Coast, beautiful.

  • Real Estate Agent · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2016 · 589 posts · 275 votes
    7y

    @Marisa R. how did you have the cash reserves to make all these purchases if I may ask?

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Mike G.:

    @Marisa R. how did you have the cash reserves to make all these purchases if I may ask?

     I mention in a previous post

    I was investing in property markets in Australia buying and selling  and basically rode a couple of boom cycle in 3 different States in Australia

    I started investing in US in 2011, but I also later got involved in small development projects

    Here is 3 villa development I completed sold in 2015. I have completed 5 in Australia. Two in Atlanta

    For those interested, as you can see we have we have totally different product in Oz, and generally much smaller sq ft is the norm

    https://m.realestate.com.au/sold/property-house-wa-spearwood-119276119

  • Joel OwensBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Canton, GA · Member since 2010 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
    7y

    Georgia is a warm belt state and one of the fastest growing states in the country. Plentiful jobs, great weather, low cost of living,etc.

    Detroit is a cold belt state with net migration moving away. There might be a slight uptick in population but that is mainly people that left with no jobs in the downturn that want to move back.

    2009 was a special time as the normal down cycle was really low compared to previous cycles. Most economists predict that will not happen for the next downturn.  Landlord tenant laws are more tenant friendly in Detroit compared to GA.

    In 2009 to 2011 you could buy A to B+ markets at D to F market pricing. Today the cheap properties are mainly trash in weak areas. They are not already established great locations and instead more of a gamble to see if the area ever turns around.

    Now that you have 2 million there are much better options than Detroit. If you do buy some of those make it a very tiny percentage of your allocation and dip your toe in the water to see what happens the first few months.  Comparing GA to Detroit markets is like an A to an F.

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Steve K.:

    @Marisa R. Congrats on your success and thanks for sharing your story! It’s really cool to see mo-town having a resurgence (at least I hope it is). Just curious what lead you to invest there... Have you seen a change in the market fundamentals that lead to Detroit’s collapse? We know the auto manufacturing jobs that the city was built on aren’t likely coming back so is there something else happening there that you see reversing the downward spiral? If it’s limited to outside investment and “urban revitalization” funds, I’d be worried those efforts are simply creating a bubble. If/when the market turns, credit markets will tighten, people from high-earning, high appreciation areas will have less disposable income burning a whole in their pocket causing them to want to invest in low cost/high risk places like the rust belt. So cities like Detroit that have been suffering from population decline, dilapidated housing stock, high crime, high taxes, poor tenant base, cops that won’t go to certain neighborhoods never mind PMs etc.... what’s to stop those areas that have had poor fundamentals for the better part of a century from reverting back to what they were before the recent influx of outside capital? Is the bubble effect something you’ve considered? Just seems like Atlanta and Detroit are opposites in that way: Atlanta is a place with strong fundamentals: incredible job growth and a population explosion where everyone who owns property has made easy money. Detroit is a great city with tons of cool history, the best music and awesome people but it has been suffering steady post-industrial decline, lack of jobs, population decline and is well know as an extremely risky place to invest except for a very recent uptick. Do you feel that recent uptick is sustainable, as in based on actual market metrics indicating an upward trend or is it simply being driven by outside investors a.k.a “dumb money”? I guess my question is are you long term bullish buy and hold on Detroit (and if so what do you see as driving the positive change), or are you planning to get in and get out before the market turns and the money coming in from outside the city dries up? Just curious as I’ve read a lot of posts on Detroit lately and it seems very high risk to me. The rising tide of a 10 year bull market has raised all the ships but that doesn’t mean those ships will stay afloat when the tide goes out.

     Agree with many of your points

    As they say many ways to skin a cat

    Detroit has markets within markets, I am focusing on those that are already rising and gentrifying

    Also not just looking at buy and hold strategy in this market

    Time will tell if I succeed, will keep you poster and flag this thread in 12 months

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Matthew Mehaffey:

    @Marisa R.

    This is incredible I live in Atlanta and I’m about to start my Rental investing career. This post gives me hope that I can still profit well in Atlanta. What are some of the areas you recommend?

     Inventory in Atlanta is very tight

    I like the Beltline

    However, I think in my opinion perhaps Clayton county may have more upside as its a much lower entry level, affordability may help drive demand

    This is just my opinion and like belly buttons we all have one......lol

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Kin M.:

    @Marisa R. Thank you for sharing! Very inspiring for a newbie like me who's researching and getting ready for out of state BRRRR.

    How did you manage rehab from afar? Are there tips and tricks you can share? I can imagine it'll be even harder from out of country and totally different time zone. So far rehab management remotely is my biggest fear and I'm doing all education I can to overcome that.

     Time zone is an absolute killer

    Key is basically networking with the right people on the ground

    Its not always smooth sailing, but being persistent helps

    As they say.... what does not kill you makes you stronger......

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Courtney Duong:

    @Marisa R.

    May I ask how did you transfer money into US? Did you transfer it directly to your personal account in US for the buying or you had to go around? Asking because my brother is in Vietnam and he wants to invest in US.

     I have 3 bank accounts in USA

    I have set up 3 LLCs. I worked out my structure using my Australian accountant, US lawyer and US accountant. My Australian Trust is my member

    Sounds complicated, but it is not

    I use Ozforex, they are a brilliant company for transferring funds and bringing money home

    I was slso using xe trade, world wide for transactions, but they were not as efficient.  Do your homework on this

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Shea Spinelli:

    @Marisa R. Nicely done, impressive. Keep it up - you always inspire!

    What part of Australia are you from? I spent a couple weeks on the East Coast, beautiful.

     Thanks

    Perth, west coast

    Just to change the subject for a moment..... come on down

    this part of my world, Eagle Bay, Dunsborough

    https://www.tripadvisor.com.au/AttractionsNear-g488341-d2253759-Eagle_Bay_Brewery-Dunsborough_Margaret_River_Region_Western_Australia.html

    Google. Eagle Bay

  • Realtor · Boulder, CO · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Marisa R.:
    Originally posted by @Steve K.:

    @Marisa R. Congrats on your success and thanks for sharing your story! It’s really cool to see mo-town having a resurgence (at least I hope it is). Just curious what lead you to invest there... Have you seen a change in the market fundamentals that lead to Detroit’s collapse? We know the auto manufacturing jobs that the city was built on aren’t likely coming back so is there something else happening there that you see reversing the downward spiral? If it’s limited to outside investment and “urban revitalization” funds, I’d be worried those efforts are simply creating a bubble. If/when the market turns, credit markets will tighten, people from high-earning, high appreciation areas will have less disposable income burning a whole in their pocket causing them to want to invest in low cost/high risk places like the rust belt. So cities like Detroit that have been suffering from population decline, dilapidated housing stock, high crime, high taxes, poor tenant base, cops that won’t go to certain neighborhoods never mind PMs etc.... what’s to stop those areas that have had poor fundamentals for the better part of a century from reverting back to what they were before the recent influx of outside capital? Is the bubble effect something you’ve considered? Just seems like Atlanta and Detroit are opposites in that way: Atlanta is a place with strong fundamentals: incredible job growth and a population explosion where everyone who owns property has made easy money. Detroit is a great city with tons of cool history, the best music and awesome people but it has been suffering steady post-industrial decline, lack of jobs, population decline and is well know as an extremely risky place to invest except for a very recent uptick. Do you feel that recent uptick is sustainable, as in based on actual market metrics indicating an upward trend or is it simply being driven by outside investors a.k.a “dumb money”? I guess my question is are you long term bullish buy and hold on Detroit (and if so what do you see as driving the positive change), or are you planning to get in and get out before the market turns and the money coming in from outside the city dries up? Just curious as I’ve read a lot of posts on Detroit lately and it seems very high risk to me. The rising tide of a 10 year bull market has raised all the ships but that doesn’t mean those ships will stay afloat when the tide goes out.

     Agree with many of your points

    As they say many ways to skin a cat

    Detroit has markets within markets, I am focusing on those that are already rising and gentrifying

    Also not just looking at buy and hold strategy in this market

    Time will tell if I succeed, will keep you poster and flag this thread in 12 months

    Detroit seems like a challenging market but from reading your posts, you don’t seem like one to shy away from a challenge. Many people would take that $2M and invest in a safer, more “blue chip”/passive investment vehicle. They say high risk can have high rewards, let’s hope that’s the case for you in Detroit! 

  • Rental Property Investor · Brooke Park Drive · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    Are you on Instagram just wanted to uhh follow the Detroit projects

  • Real Estate Agent · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2016 · 589 posts · 275 votes
    7y

    @Marisa R. wow excellent work there on those projects that gave you the footing to invest here in the US. Very cool stuff!!

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Steve K.:
    Originally posted by @Marisa R.:
    Originally posted by @Steve K.:

    @Marisa R. Congrats on your success and thanks for sharing your story! It’s really cool to see mo-town having a resurgence (at least I hope it is). Just curious what lead you to invest there... Have you seen a change in the market fundamentals that lead to Detroit’s collapse? We know the auto manufacturing jobs that the city was built on aren’t likely coming back so is there something else happening there that you see reversing the downward spiral? If it’s limited to outside investment and “urban revitalization” funds, I’d be worried those efforts are simply creating a bubble. If/when the market turns, credit markets will tighten, people from high-earning, high appreciation areas will have less disposable income burning a whole in their pocket causing them to want to invest in low cost/high risk places like the rust belt. So cities like Detroit that have been suffering from population decline, dilapidated housing stock, high crime, high taxes, poor tenant base, cops that won’t go to certain neighborhoods never mind PMs etc.... what’s to stop those areas that have had poor fundamentals for the better part of a century from reverting back to what they were before the recent influx of outside capital? Is the bubble effect something you’ve considered? Just seems like Atlanta and Detroit are opposites in that way: Atlanta is a place with strong fundamentals: incredible job growth and a population explosion where everyone who owns property has made easy money. Detroit is a great city with tons of cool history, the best music and awesome people but it has been suffering steady post-industrial decline, lack of jobs, population decline and is well know as an extremely risky place to invest except for a very recent uptick. Do you feel that recent uptick is sustainable, as in based on actual market metrics indicating an upward trend or is it simply being driven by outside investors a.k.a “dumb money”? I guess my question is are you long term bullish buy and hold on Detroit (and if so what do you see as driving the positive change), or are you planning to get in and get out before the market turns and the money coming in from outside the city dries up? Just curious as I’ve read a lot of posts on Detroit lately and it seems very high risk to me. The rising tide of a 10 year bull market has raised all the ships but that doesn’t mean those ships will stay afloat when the tide goes out.

     Agree with many of your points

    As they say many ways to skin a cat

    Detroit has markets within markets, I am focusing on those that are already rising and gentrifying

    Also not just looking at buy and hold strategy in this market

    Time will tell if I succeed, will keep you poster and flag this thread in 12 months

    Detroit seems like a challenging market but from reading your posts, you don’t seem like one to shy away from a challenge. Many people would take that $2M and invest in a safer, more “blue chip”/passive investment vehicle. They say high risk can have high rewards, let’s hope that’s the case for you in Detroit! 

     But I am not investing $2M in Detroit market. That would be high risk, 

  • Shea SpinelliPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tyler, TX · Member since 2016 · 198 posts · 89 votes
    7y

    @Marisa R. gorgeous! I’ve heard it’s great on the west coast too. I may have to check it out! I love Australia, it was a real good time. 

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
    Originally posted by @Max T.:

    How did u get the 500k?

    I think I recall like many aussies they had massive appreciation .. so many in that country back then did a few things.

    they either sold and moved equity or they borrowed against their equity and invested in the US.. some did great like the OP others got hammered because they bought C D F class.. in many other markets. 

    on top of that the AUD was at a historic high against the dollar. 

    That's correct during 2011 the AUD was on parity or higher with USD. Today a different story.

    So there is another interesting twist to this story, there is a currency play here, if I bring my capital home I will actually be making 45% profits just in the currency play. However, I would then still need to pay capital gains tax. Not planning to sell at the moment, enjoying the cash flow.

  • Developer · Atlanta and Detroit · Member since 2018 · 601 posts · 821 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:
    Originally posted by @Max T.:

    How did u get the 500k?

    I think I recall like many aussies they had massive appreciation .. so many in that country back then did a few things.

    they either sold and moved equity or they borrowed against their equity and invested in the US.. some did great like the OP others got hammered because they bought C D F class.. in many other markets. 

    on top of that the AUD was at a historic high against the dollar. 

    Yes, correct in 2011 the AUD was on parity to USD, if not even higher, this was due to the Aussie mining boom, it was the mother of all booms. We saw some properties double within 12 months, nuts really.

    Anyway, the thing is there is an interesting twist here, if I decide to bring my capital home, the currency play means I make 45% on my USD? Of course still have to pay capital gains tax etc. though I don't plan to sell at the moment, enjoying the cash flow.

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