Fastest growing Cities in the US.

Fastest growing Cities in the US.

Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes

According to the U.S. Census Bureau from 1APR2010 to 1JULY2018 Bend-Redmond grew by 27.3%. That mean on average about 12 people are moving to Bend every day making it one of the most popular cities to move to in the US.

After reading Long-Distance Real Estate Investing by "David Greene," I have realized that investing in Bend-Redmond might be a great move.

The unaffordability in most places of California is pushing more people to expand up to Oregon and East to places like Las Vegas which has also seen a significant increase in population growth. 

Bend, Redmond, Sunriver, Prineville, and Sisters make up most of Central Oregon. As bend keeps growing people are expanding outwards to the smaller towns around Bend such as Redmond and Sunriver. 

There is great potential in Central Oregon for real estate and job growth. Yes Bend is not the cheapest. The median home value in Bend is $462,050. On a $400,000 duplex, with 2 rooms on each side you can still come within .8 to 1 percent of the rents equal to the purchase price (1% rule). According to Zillow home prices increased by 3.8% last year and have a forecast to grow by 3.6% in the coming year. 

In my opinion Central Oregon has the opportunity to cash flow and has a ton of room for appreciation. Not only do the numbers work but Bend is right next to the mountain and the Deschutes river. I see a very positive outlook for Bend in the near future.

Those are just a couple important things to know and there are a lot more. I grew up in Bend my whole life and know the ins and outs. I hope that this information was helpful. If you are looking to move to Bend or invest there I would love to help.

Also I am currently looking to buy a multifamily property as a rental. If there are any locals that would like to connect I would be more than happy to get together!

Thanks,

Frank Lesowske.

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Developer · McMinnville, OR · Member since 2017 · 20 posts · 9 votes
6y

Hi Frank,

I'm a real estate agent and investor here in OR.  I live on the west side in McMinnville.  I'm centered here for now but think I'll be moving into Portland within the year.  I invest in McMinnville because we renovate older homes with character and do vacation rentals.  Our business is focused on the wine industry that runs up and down the Willamette Valley.  We've focused and created a little niche for ourselves.

I mention this only to say, it depends what you are wanting to do with the properties as to whether Bend is a good area or not.  Knowing what I do about the tourism over there, I think you might have better luck at vacation rentals.  I have found that because of our relatively high purchase prices in OR, it is hard to get the same cap rates as other areas.  And yet, rents are not that much higher when you get out of Portland metro.  The other great thing about vacation rentals is that it takes rent control and tenant laws out of the equation as those laws don't apply to vacation rental properties.

To be sure, there are plenty of other laws that do effect you as an investor if you go this route.

If you'd be interested in a conversation, I'd be happy to tell you more about what we do and why.  Depending on your interest, we could always talk about working together somehow too.

Best of luck!  I've only been in Real Estate investing and sales for about 3 years now and it has totally changed my life.  It's a wild, fun ride!

Cheers,

Tim

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  • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2014 · 408 posts · 209 votes
    6y

    Welcome to BP @Account Closed. Thanks for this info. I thought I remember hearing, in the last year or two, about some massive state-wide rent control legislation in Oregon. Do you know anything about that?

  • Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    You're welcome @Simcha Davidman. 

    Yes I have looked into the state-wide rent control legislation. I understand why its happening in states like Oregon (Specifically Portland) where rents have increased by 30% since 2011. As more people continue to move to Oregon, affordability will also become harder for people.

    With that being said, I believe that if you find a deal where the numbers on a property work for you then there will be no problem with the new laws. 

    The only downside I can see is that it will be more difficult to evict a tenant. If you have a great property manager that screens tenants the right way then everything will go a lot smoother.

    Is there anything that you would look out for yourself when it comes to rent control?

  • Anthony GaydenPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Omaha, NE · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    The fastest growing metro areas in the US are:

    Phoenix

    San Antonio

    Fort Worth

    Seattle

    Charlotte

    Keeping that in mind I would look for the area that offers the best potential for rental price growth and appreciation.

    As an out of state investor I prefer warmer climates in more landlord friendly locations. Also I prefer areas with less government regulations, lower taxes, and lower overall barriers to entry.

  • Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    Thank you @Anthony Gayden that is very useful information and you make a lot of good points.

    Originally I was really interested in Tucson and Phoenix, then I realized how fast my town was growing. I have been trying to figure out which location I will be able to excel in the most.

    With the new laws being put into place it looks like AZ could also be a good option.

    What are some areas in Tucson or Phoenix that you could guide me towards? 

  • Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    @Anthony Gayden I also have a question on whether or not you have looked into investing in Oregon? 

    OR is the most moved to state in the US. I see a lot of growth potential for the future. What do you think?

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    6y

    I do not like that a state would implement rent control “because rent climbed 30% in 8 or 9 years”. That’s almost zero rent increase. It’s About the rate of inflation. And that scared them in to taking away landlord’s rights? What if rents had increased 50 or 60% over 8-9 years like they have in other areas? Would they have mandated rent cuts?

    Did properties increase in value more than 30% in the last 8-9 years? Did they consider that a problem and pass a law saying they couldn’t? If they didn’t appreciate faster than the cap you would never want to invest there, if they did, the landlord side of the deal gets worse and worse. As long as property appreciation stays under rent cap it might not kill their rental market.

    Expensive properties with slow rent rate increases and rent control? Sounds like they’re becoming “California North” even faster than we are becoming “California East” in Nevada. Might as well start looking farther East to Idaho, or pretty soon Texas and Florida. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Baltimore, MD · Member since 2014 · 408 posts · 209 votes
    6y

    @Account Closed aside from the general apprehension of the legislative/political climate of a government that would curtail free enterprise, I'd be concerned about the ability to push rents = raising value of the property. Aside from SFRs, your asset value is determined by NOI, and if you're limited on how much income you can bring it, it could limit how high you can drive your NOI. It is possible that the rent control in OR is loose enough that it won't be an issue for you. I'm not familiar with it to comment on.

  • Developer · McMinnville, OR · Member since 2017 · 20 posts · 9 votes
    6y

    Hi Frank,

    I'm a real estate agent and investor here in OR.  I live on the west side in McMinnville.  I'm centered here for now but think I'll be moving into Portland within the year.  I invest in McMinnville because we renovate older homes with character and do vacation rentals.  Our business is focused on the wine industry that runs up and down the Willamette Valley.  We've focused and created a little niche for ourselves.

    I mention this only to say, it depends what you are wanting to do with the properties as to whether Bend is a good area or not.  Knowing what I do about the tourism over there, I think you might have better luck at vacation rentals.  I have found that because of our relatively high purchase prices in OR, it is hard to get the same cap rates as other areas.  And yet, rents are not that much higher when you get out of Portland metro.  The other great thing about vacation rentals is that it takes rent control and tenant laws out of the equation as those laws don't apply to vacation rental properties.

    To be sure, there are plenty of other laws that do effect you as an investor if you go this route.

    If you'd be interested in a conversation, I'd be happy to tell you more about what we do and why.  Depending on your interest, we could always talk about working together somehow too.

    Best of luck!  I've only been in Real Estate investing and sales for about 3 years now and it has totally changed my life.  It's a wild, fun ride!

    Cheers,

    Tim

  • Real Estate Broker · Alaska and Oregon · Member since 2018 · 44 posts · 35 votes
    6y

    I have a rental in Redmond and I do believe this area is growing and will continue to for a few more years. I really think the deals are in some older homes and foreclosure or distressed duplexes.  I'd rather find something where rents are low because the landlord hasn't even attempted to give it a light refresh in the last decade and put a little money into it and raise rents and give tenants a place they are proud to come home to.  

  • Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    Thanks @Bill B. I will check out other states. Rent control will allow you to increase rent by 7% per year. 

  • Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    Hows it going @Tim Wade. 

    Vacation rentals would be a great idea in the market we have going right now. I don't know how they will all hold up in a crash like 2008 though?

    You sound experienced in the Oregon market. Ill send you a request right now.

  • Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    Thats very true @Brandi Croom I see that there are plenty of deals to be made in the Bend-Redmond area, especially on multi family properties that people have held for a long time.

    Whats your opinion on the new rent control laws? Have they directly or indirectly effected your business?

  • Lender · Wildwood Crest, NJ · Member since 2017 · 317 posts · 56 votes
    6y

    They are the best areas usually to purchase

  • Real Estate Broker · Alaska and Oregon · Member since 2018 · 44 posts · 35 votes
    6y
    it does not affect me yet, I don’t have any units that would justify more than a 10% rate in increase and I i can still do a no cause eviction in their first year. 
    Originally posted by @Account Closed
  • Lender · Bend, OR · Member since 2016 · 64 posts · 45 votes
    6y

    Hi @Account Closed! Did you know we have a local meetup here in Bend? First Thurs of every month at Level 2 in the Old Mill - 5:30pm. Come hang out with us next time! Also, I help a lot of investors to get financing for their rental purchases and refinances - if you'd ever like a lender's perspective on how to plan/strategize for buying in this market, let's grab a beer and chat!

  • Jason B.Pro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Boise, ID · Member since 2017 · 228 posts · 180 votes
    6y

    Hi Frank.  Brand new investor here, no doors YET, so trying to learn everything I can.  I'm here in Boise, about 45 minutes from the Oregon border (Ontario is close) and researching areas to place my focus on.  With the allowable rent increases due to the rent control, do you see (or have you seen) a trend developing where rather than allowing the market/individual landlord to determine rent increase rates, landlord's will automatically go for the maximum (7% you stated) to ensure they're capturing as much growth as possible, basically creating a 'market' that increases by 7% no matter what? 

  • Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    @Josh Garner 

    Message sent, ill be there!

  • Lender · Clearwater Florida · Member since 2019 · 31 posts · 36 votes
    6y

    @Jason B.

    You have some great questions. 

    Of course if the property is in a good location and the market allows for a 7% increase on their specific property then Im positive that landlords would increase their rents by the highest amount possible.

    The question is what do you think will happen to the economy during another downturn? And will the market in Central Oregon fall as hard as other places where rents have gone too high for people to afford.

    Will there also be less vacancy due to more affordable rent?

    I don't know the answers to those questions but if the numbers work and the property cash flows, you'll be in good shape.

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