Hope you are all well. I am new to this platform and real estate investing. I have been reading and doing research and now I am ready to start looking for locations to possibly invest. I am looking for multifamily homes at the moment but I am open to single as well. What cities & states do you guys recommend?
Virtually every mid west rust belt state and big city has sub 100k housing. as the markets have moved though
in value.. sub 100k is going to be high touch rental properties to down right war zones..
Unless you can really scale these for what purpose would you leave CA just to buy a rental that maybe makes you 100 to 200 a month and ties up your credit and capital..??? think that through.
if you do this you want to have a plan to scale to 10 doors asap so its worth your time and risk.
Hey Alicia, depending on your return/location criteria, we could potentially find you something in the Dayton OH market that meets your under 100K price requirement. I'd be happy to talk in more detail about the market itself if you are interested, feel free to reach out.
I really recommend investing where you have an edge on the market. This could be the city you grew up in, where you went to college, where your network is, AND/OR where you have a great local team on the ground such as an investor friendly agent, property manager, lender, and contractor.
The midwest is nice because it has low price points so you can learn in a lot more easier way if you choose to invest out of state compared to the highly expensive markets where you need to start with putting $100-200k down on a multi-family.
It really depends on your goals too - single family is great and have been going up steadily and are nice when tenants stay 5+ years. Multi-family is also great and allows you to scale more quickly and hedge against vacancy.
I invest in the Cleveland area, and second the comments about using it as a great opportunity to learn. I've done BRRRR deals, conventional financed deals, and seller financed deals all out there, and am working on my first multifamily deals in the same market. The dangerous neighborhood potential is real though, and the importance of having boots on the ground goes up exponentially. All in all I'm so grateful for the contacts I've made out there, and the opportunities to learn, although I do plan on moving into a higher end market in the future, as my skills at team building, underwriting and raising capital improve.
@Marc - great advice! I agree about finding the edge in the market. In particular, could you please elaborate on how to get a great local team? Once a team is up and running, I think it's easy to identify gaps and strengths, but starting from square one: any pointers?
there are lots of great answers here. I personally invest in Dayton OH and specialize in the types of properties you listed. If you want to talk strategy let me know and I'd be happy to share what I do personally
@Zachary Inman Hello Zachary, thank you for responding. I am open to either, the numbers will just need to make sense. Currently, I am open to locations as long as it's in the B range cities. I don't know if this is even possible yet as I am just starting to search areas to invest. I am open to chat further to hear more about Indianapolis.
@Matt Slease Thank you for reminding me of that. I just started looking to see what I am even able to find in that price range but I definitely would not want a war zone.
@Marc Rice I would love to invest in any of the areas you mentioned as I know great contractors, and lenders in California but it's like you said, I will need to start with putting $100-200K down. It's just not something I am able to do at the moment.
Appreciate the feedback, it was very useful. Do you recommend any specific areas in the midwest to start researching more?
@Philip Hernandez Appreciate all the feedback and congratulation on working on so many different types of deals. So impressive. Look forward to creating my own resume in real estate investing.
@Lucia Rushton Great questions. Appreciate it. My specific question was, what cities/states would people suggest I start looking into further for that price point? When I was looking on my own there were a lot of places outside of California that fit the price range so I was looking to narrow down my search.
These would be homes that need work, being bought with a loan and I will be hiring a team.
@Alicia Kuluris, understanding you are just wanting ideas, but you have to assess the risks, too.
But, more importantly: is your $100k budget all in, or just acquisition cost?
For reference, I live in and invest directly in Cincinnati. There areas that I can buy property for $100k or less, but I would not personally invest in. High crime, low quality tenants, typically major Capex and repair items coming in near term, and frequent and high turnover costs. You are also limited in your appreciation due the high crime in many of those areas. But you are also in a major city that will survive the good times and bad. Lower likelihood of property losing value. Due to size, there are more property managers available.
I also have family in Mt. Vernon, OH. Small town with a university. A couple stable employers, and houses are much, much cheaper for a decent pocket and pretty well maintained property. Risks here include job market outlook, particularly if one of the major employers leaves, little to no population growth, ample land for the potential of new construction, and fewer property managers to choose from.
Whenever I talk to people that are out of state, I would factor in cost and ease to travel to these areas. Cincinnati, for instance, has one direct flight to LAX per day, one to SFO per day, maybe one to San Diego. Everything else is connecting. Dayton, OH is a 45 minute drive from Cincinnati. While you will not be traveling to your properties every month, I would imagine you will be making one or two trips per year to meet with your PM and get eyes on your property. After all, it is your money at risk. Therefore, hub cities will likely be easier, but back to first list of risks, you are likely buying in C-D areas. Secondly, I would suggest you buy in a place that you have a connection to. Extended family, corporate offices for work, something that brings you to the market anyways.
@Lucia Rushton Great questions. Appreciate it. My specific question was, what cities/states would people suggest I start looking into further for that price point? When I was looking on my own there were a lot of places outside of California that fit the price range so I was looking to narrow down my search.
These would be homes that need work, being bought with a loan and I will be hiring a team.
Best wishes!!! Keep us posted as you decide to narrow down your search.
Virtually every mid west rust belt state and big city has sub 100k housing. as the markets have moved though
in value.. sub 100k is going to be high touch rental properties to down right war zones..
Unless you can really scale these for what purpose would you leave CA just to buy a rental that maybe makes you 100 to 200 a month and ties up your credit and capital..??? think that through.
if you do this you want to have a plan to scale to 10 doors asap so its worth your time and risk.
Hey @Alicia Kuluris! the best market to invest in is the one you can get an unfair advantage in. Often times that starts out being the one you live in with your advantage being knowledge of the market. but don't limit yourself with a certain price range get creative and think how can I make this great deal work, utilize partners, seller finance, hard money, wholesaling or a number of other strategies to take it down if it's a great deal. Plus if you partner with an experienced investor you will increase your knowledgebase much faster.
@Alicia Kuluris also if you are looking to test out different markets join some virtual meetups in different markets you think might be good and network. good luck!
@Marc - great advice! I agree about finding the edge in the market. In particular, could you please elaborate on how to get a great local team? Once a team is up and running, I think it's easy to identify gaps and strengths, but starting from square one: any pointers?
A great local team usually starts with finding a rockstar investor friendly real estate agent or property manager who can then put you in touch with other rockstars. I feel these 2 tend to have a great network.