Why a Triplex/Quad is not always the best investment. More units doesn't mean better

Why a Triplex/Quad is not always the best investment. More units doesn't mean better

Alan AsriantsBusiness Member
Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

When investors first start learning about real estate investing, many share a common goal: acquiring a large number of units, generating enough cash flow to leave their 9-to-5 jobs, and becoming full-time real estate investors. With their newfound knowledge, many gravitate toward the easiest type of multifamily property to acquire—quadplexes or four-unit buildings.

This preference is largely because 2–4 unit properties are classified as residential, meaning they qualify for primary residence mortgages. These loans allow buyers to purchase with lower down payments and take advantage of the best interest rates. Even for investors, this can be beneficial, as they avoid riskier commercial loans that often come with 25-year amortizations, balloon payments, and adjustable rates.

Now, don’t get me wrong—buying more units often means more cash flow. But there are nuances that many first-time investors don’t consider. Before diving into those challenges, let’s look at the benefits of purchasing a triplex or quadplex:

  1. Higher cash flow potential
  2. Typically lower price per unit, leading to better returns
  3. Easier to manage vacancies compared to single-unit rentals
  4. More tenants in one location—potentially easier than managing multiple properties in different locations

Of course, there are other reasons why a higher unit count may be attractive, but these tend to be the most significant ones. And let’s be honest—most investors are ultimately driven by financial gain. More units generally mean a higher chance of generating more cash flow.

However, since we’re talking about investment properties/generating wealth and not just financial and business like returns, it’s also important to consider the time and effort involved in managing them.

When you purchase a single-family rental or even a duplex, tenants are more likely to treat the property as their own. Think about it—especially with single-family homes, tenants are often responsible for shoveling snow, mowing the lawn, paying all utilities, and maintaining the property. Since they don’t share walls or hallways, they develop a stronger sense of ownership.

The same principle applies to many duplexes. With a duplex, a tenant is responsible for 50% of the property, which is large enough for them to feel a sense of ownership. But as you introduce more units, that dynamic starts to change. The more people living in a building, the less personal responsibility each tenant feels. This shift increases the landlord’s responsibilities.

When four separate families live in a building, shared spaces like hallways, driveways, backyards, basements, and laundry areas start to feel less personal to tenants. As a result, maintaining those spaces becomes the landlord’s responsibility.

Think about large apartment complexes—tenants don’t mow the grass, shovel the snow, or maintain the common areas. The landlord or property management company does. The same concept applies to triplexes and quadplexes. While additional units may bring in more cash flow, managing tasks like lawn care, snow removal, and hallway maintenance becomes more complicated.

Another overlooked factor is managing tenant relationships.

With a single-family home, there’s no concern about tenants disturbing each other—there’s no one living above, below, or next to them. With a duplex, there’s still some shared space, but since it’s a 50-50 split, most tenants can find a way to coexist peacefully.

However, when you introduce more units, you increase the likelihood of interpersonal conflicts. Issues such as noise complaints, cooking smells, parking disputes, and general nuisances become part of the landlord’s job to manage. These aren't hypothetical problems—I personally own a triplex and know someone who owns a 10-unit building. They’ve dealt with complaints ranging from loud neighbors and strange odors to parking disputes and even tenants throwing eggs at cars.

Another major consideration—especially in my local market—is that quality triplex and quadplex opportunities are rare. The few that do pop up are often overpriced or converted from single-family homes over a century ago. Many of these conversions desperately need full gut renovations.

If a property hasn’t undergone a major renovation in the past 25 years, it will almost certainly become your responsibility in the near future. I know this firsthand—my first investment property was one of these older conversions. When you combine outdated plumbing, inefficient heating systems, intertwined electrical wiring, and poorly designed layouts, you’re looking at major headaches.

While some multifamily properties were originally built as rentals, the majority of available triplexes and quadplexes in my market are aging conversions that require extensive rehab. Don’t fall into the trap of being lured by good-looking cash flow numbers—those properties can become money pits.

To wrap this up, my advice to clients is simple: Don’t overlook a solid duplex while chasing the dream of a better triplex or quadplex.

Good luck!

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Drew SygitBusiness Member
Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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Depends on the layout.

Have seen 3 & 4 units properties that were townhouse/row style with no shared space except yard and parking.

Also depends on property Class.

Class A rentals attract best tenants who usually take care of their homes, no matter the number of units.

Go down to Class C/D properties and those tenants are what you refer to.

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  • Robert EllisBusiness Member
    Developer · Miami, FL · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Alan Asriants:

    When investors first start learning about real estate investing, many share a common goal: acquiring a large number of units, generating enough cash flow to leave their 9-to-5 jobs, and becoming full-time real estate investors. With their newfound knowledge, many gravitate toward the easiest type of multifamily property to acquire—quadplexes or four-unit buildings.

    This preference is largely because 2–4 unit properties are classified as residential, meaning they qualify for primary residence mortgages. These loans allow buyers to purchase with lower down payments and take advantage of the best interest rates. Even for investors, this can be beneficial, as they avoid riskier commercial loans that often come with 25-year amortizations, balloon payments, and adjustable rates.

    Now, don’t get me wrong—buying more units often means more cash flow. But there are nuances that many first-time investors don’t consider. Before diving into those challenges, let’s look at the benefits of purchasing a triplex or quadplex:

    1. Higher cash flow potential
    2. Typically lower price per unit, leading to better returns
    3. Easier to manage vacancies compared to single-unit rentals
    4. More tenants in one location—potentially easier than managing multiple properties in different locations

    Of course, there are other reasons why a higher unit count may be attractive, but these tend to be the most significant ones. And let’s be honest—most investors are ultimately driven by financial gain. More units generally mean a higher chance of generating more cash flow.

    However, since we’re talking about investment properties/generating wealth and not just financial and business like returns, it’s also important to consider the time and effort involved in managing them.

    When you purchase a single-family rental or even a duplex, tenants are more likely to treat the property as their own. Think about it—especially with single-family homes, tenants are often responsible for shoveling snow, mowing the lawn, paying all utilities, and maintaining the property. Since they don’t share walls or hallways, they develop a stronger sense of ownership.

    The same principle applies to many duplexes. With a duplex, a tenant is responsible for 50% of the property, which is large enough for them to feel a sense of ownership. But as you introduce more units, that dynamic starts to change. The more people living in a building, the less personal responsibility each tenant feels. This shift increases the landlord’s responsibilities.

    When four separate families live in a building, shared spaces like hallways, driveways, backyards, basements, and laundry areas start to feel less personal to tenants. As a result, maintaining those spaces becomes the landlord’s responsibility.

    Think about large apartment complexes—tenants don’t mow the grass, shovel the snow, or maintain the common areas. The landlord or property management company does. The same concept applies to triplexes and quadplexes. While additional units may bring in more cash flow, managing tasks like lawn care, snow removal, and hallway maintenance becomes more complicated.

    Another overlooked factor is managing tenant relationships.

    With a single-family home, there’s no concern about tenants disturbing each other—there’s no one living above, below, or next to them. With a duplex, there’s still some shared space, but since it’s a 50-50 split, most tenants can find a way to coexist peacefully.

    However, when you introduce more units, you increase the likelihood of interpersonal conflicts. Issues such as noise complaints, cooking smells, parking disputes, and general nuisances become part of the landlord’s job to manage. These aren't hypothetical problems—I personally own a triplex and know someone who owns a 10-unit building. They’ve dealt with complaints ranging from loud neighbors and strange odors to parking disputes and even tenants throwing eggs at cars.

    Another major consideration—especially in my local market—is that quality triplex and quadplex opportunities are rare. The few that do pop up are often overpriced or converted from single-family homes over a century ago. Many of these conversions desperately need full gut renovations.

    If a property hasn’t undergone a major renovation in the past 25 years, it will almost certainly become your responsibility in the near future. I know this firsthand—my first investment property was one of these older conversions. When you combine outdated plumbing, inefficient heating systems, intertwined electrical wiring, and poorly designed layouts, you’re looking at major headaches.

    While some multifamily properties were originally built as rentals, the majority of available triplexes and quadplexes in my market are aging conversions that require extensive rehab. Don’t fall into the trap of being lured by good-looking cash flow numbers—those properties can become money pits.

    To wrap this up, my advice to clients is simple: Don’t overlook a solid duplex while chasing the dream of a better triplex or quadplex.

    Good luck!


     as someone who builds build to rent new construction triplexes in Columbus Ohio and single family homes. from a new construction perspective 3 story walk ups are the most common type of apartments built in the country and in addition in development a triplex is best economies of scale while still staying within residential building codes. We build a triplex for that reason. I don't disagree with a lot of your sentiments but the numbers don't work on duplexes in our market anymore like a traditional duplex where people want to house hack so in my opinion a triplex is the best. it also allows you to have highest asset value possible. in terms of our single family spec homes compared to our spec triplexes the triplex build to rent have the most interest. 

    • Alan AsriantsBusiness Member
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      Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:

      When investors first start learning about real estate investing, many share a common goal: acquiring a large number of units, generating enough cash flow to leave their 9-to-5 jobs, and becoming full-time real estate investors. With their newfound knowledge, many gravitate toward the easiest type of multifamily property to acquire—quadplexes or four-unit buildings.

      This preference is largely because 2–4 unit properties are classified as residential, meaning they qualify for primary residence mortgages. These loans allow buyers to purchase with lower down payments and take advantage of the best interest rates. Even for investors, this can be beneficial, as they avoid riskier commercial loans that often come with 25-year amortizations, balloon payments, and adjustable rates.

      Now, don’t get me wrong—buying more units often means more cash flow. But there are nuances that many first-time investors don’t consider. Before diving into those challenges, let’s look at the benefits of purchasing a triplex or quadplex:

      1. Higher cash flow potential
      2. Typically lower price per unit, leading to better returns
      3. Easier to manage vacancies compared to single-unit rentals
      4. More tenants in one location—potentially easier than managing multiple properties in different locations

      Of course, there are other reasons why a higher unit count may be attractive, but these tend to be the most significant ones. And let’s be honest—most investors are ultimately driven by financial gain. More units generally mean a higher chance of generating more cash flow.

      However, since we’re talking about investment properties/generating wealth and not just financial and business like returns, it’s also important to consider the time and effort involved in managing them.

      When you purchase a single-family rental or even a duplex, tenants are more likely to treat the property as their own. Think about it—especially with single-family homes, tenants are often responsible for shoveling snow, mowing the lawn, paying all utilities, and maintaining the property. Since they don’t share walls or hallways, they develop a stronger sense of ownership.

      The same principle applies to many duplexes. With a duplex, a tenant is responsible for 50% of the property, which is large enough for them to feel a sense of ownership. But as you introduce more units, that dynamic starts to change. The more people living in a building, the less personal responsibility each tenant feels. This shift increases the landlord’s responsibilities.

      When four separate families live in a building, shared spaces like hallways, driveways, backyards, basements, and laundry areas start to feel less personal to tenants. As a result, maintaining those spaces becomes the landlord’s responsibility.

      Think about large apartment complexes—tenants don’t mow the grass, shovel the snow, or maintain the common areas. The landlord or property management company does. The same concept applies to triplexes and quadplexes. While additional units may bring in more cash flow, managing tasks like lawn care, snow removal, and hallway maintenance becomes more complicated.

      Another overlooked factor is managing tenant relationships.

      With a single-family home, there’s no concern about tenants disturbing each other—there’s no one living above, below, or next to them. With a duplex, there’s still some shared space, but since it’s a 50-50 split, most tenants can find a way to coexist peacefully.

      However, when you introduce more units, you increase the likelihood of interpersonal conflicts. Issues such as noise complaints, cooking smells, parking disputes, and general nuisances become part of the landlord’s job to manage. These aren't hypothetical problems—I personally own a triplex and know someone who owns a 10-unit building. They’ve dealt with complaints ranging from loud neighbors and strange odors to parking disputes and even tenants throwing eggs at cars.

      Another major consideration—especially in my local market—is that quality triplex and quadplex opportunities are rare. The few that do pop up are often overpriced or converted from single-family homes over a century ago. Many of these conversions desperately need full gut renovations.

      If a property hasn’t undergone a major renovation in the past 25 years, it will almost certainly become your responsibility in the near future. I know this firsthand—my first investment property was one of these older conversions. When you combine outdated plumbing, inefficient heating systems, intertwined electrical wiring, and poorly designed layouts, you’re looking at major headaches.

      While some multifamily properties were originally built as rentals, the majority of available triplexes and quadplexes in my market are aging conversions that require extensive rehab. Don’t fall into the trap of being lured by good-looking cash flow numbers—those properties can become money pits.

      To wrap this up, my advice to clients is simple: Don’t overlook a solid duplex while chasing the dream of a better triplex or quadplex.

      Good luck!


       as someone who builds build to rent new construction triplexes in Columbus Ohio and single family homes. from a new construction perspective 3 story walk ups are the most common type of apartments built in the country and in addition in development a triplex is best economies of scale while still staying within residential building codes. We build a triplex for that reason. I don't disagree with a lot of your sentiments but the numbers don't work on duplexes in our market anymore like a traditional duplex where people want to house hack so in my opinion a triplex is the best. it also allows you to have highest asset value possible. in terms of our single family spec homes compared to our spec triplexes the triplex build to rent have the most interest. 


       When it comes to running numbers, triplex will also make more sense. Unfortunately in my market there are slim to no options. And the nice options downtown are too expensive to even consider cash flow. 

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    • Robert EllisBusiness Member
      Developer · Miami, FL · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:

      When investors first start learning about real estate investing, many share a common goal: acquiring a large number of units, generating enough cash flow to leave their 9-to-5 jobs, and becoming full-time real estate investors. With their newfound knowledge, many gravitate toward the easiest type of multifamily property to acquire—quadplexes or four-unit buildings.

      This preference is largely because 2–4 unit properties are classified as residential, meaning they qualify for primary residence mortgages. These loans allow buyers to purchase with lower down payments and take advantage of the best interest rates. Even for investors, this can be beneficial, as they avoid riskier commercial loans that often come with 25-year amortizations, balloon payments, and adjustable rates.

      Now, don’t get me wrong—buying more units often means more cash flow. But there are nuances that many first-time investors don’t consider. Before diving into those challenges, let’s look at the benefits of purchasing a triplex or quadplex:

      1. Higher cash flow potential
      2. Typically lower price per unit, leading to better returns
      3. Easier to manage vacancies compared to single-unit rentals
      4. More tenants in one location—potentially easier than managing multiple properties in different locations

      Of course, there are other reasons why a higher unit count may be attractive, but these tend to be the most significant ones. And let’s be honest—most investors are ultimately driven by financial gain. More units generally mean a higher chance of generating more cash flow.

      However, since we’re talking about investment properties/generating wealth and not just financial and business like returns, it’s also important to consider the time and effort involved in managing them.

      When you purchase a single-family rental or even a duplex, tenants are more likely to treat the property as their own. Think about it—especially with single-family homes, tenants are often responsible for shoveling snow, mowing the lawn, paying all utilities, and maintaining the property. Since they don’t share walls or hallways, they develop a stronger sense of ownership.

      The same principle applies to many duplexes. With a duplex, a tenant is responsible for 50% of the property, which is large enough for them to feel a sense of ownership. But as you introduce more units, that dynamic starts to change. The more people living in a building, the less personal responsibility each tenant feels. This shift increases the landlord’s responsibilities.

      When four separate families live in a building, shared spaces like hallways, driveways, backyards, basements, and laundry areas start to feel less personal to tenants. As a result, maintaining those spaces becomes the landlord’s responsibility.

      Think about large apartment complexes—tenants don’t mow the grass, shovel the snow, or maintain the common areas. The landlord or property management company does. The same concept applies to triplexes and quadplexes. While additional units may bring in more cash flow, managing tasks like lawn care, snow removal, and hallway maintenance becomes more complicated.

      Another overlooked factor is managing tenant relationships.

      With a single-family home, there’s no concern about tenants disturbing each other—there’s no one living above, below, or next to them. With a duplex, there’s still some shared space, but since it’s a 50-50 split, most tenants can find a way to coexist peacefully.

      However, when you introduce more units, you increase the likelihood of interpersonal conflicts. Issues such as noise complaints, cooking smells, parking disputes, and general nuisances become part of the landlord’s job to manage. These aren't hypothetical problems—I personally own a triplex and know someone who owns a 10-unit building. They’ve dealt with complaints ranging from loud neighbors and strange odors to parking disputes and even tenants throwing eggs at cars.

      Another major consideration—especially in my local market—is that quality triplex and quadplex opportunities are rare. The few that do pop up are often overpriced or converted from single-family homes over a century ago. Many of these conversions desperately need full gut renovations.

      If a property hasn’t undergone a major renovation in the past 25 years, it will almost certainly become your responsibility in the near future. I know this firsthand—my first investment property was one of these older conversions. When you combine outdated plumbing, inefficient heating systems, intertwined electrical wiring, and poorly designed layouts, you’re looking at major headaches.

      While some multifamily properties were originally built as rentals, the majority of available triplexes and quadplexes in my market are aging conversions that require extensive rehab. Don’t fall into the trap of being lured by good-looking cash flow numbers—those properties can become money pits.

      To wrap this up, my advice to clients is simple: Don’t overlook a solid duplex while chasing the dream of a better triplex or quadplex.

      Good luck!


       as someone who builds build to rent new construction triplexes in Columbus Ohio and single family homes. from a new construction perspective 3 story walk ups are the most common type of apartments built in the country and in addition in development a triplex is best economies of scale while still staying within residential building codes. We build a triplex for that reason. I don't disagree with a lot of your sentiments but the numbers don't work on duplexes in our market anymore like a traditional duplex where people want to house hack so in my opinion a triplex is the best. it also allows you to have highest asset value possible. in terms of our single family spec homes compared to our spec triplexes the triplex build to rent have the most interest. 


       When it comes to running numbers, triplex will also make more sense. Unfortunately in my market there are slim to no options. And the nice options downtown are too expensive to even consider cash flow. 


       have you looked at new constrction in your market and lot prices? I think I could find a place where the economics are favorable. every city has investments properties 

    • Alan AsriantsBusiness Member
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      Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:

      When investors first start learning about real estate investing, many share a common goal: acquiring a large number of units, generating enough cash flow to leave their 9-to-5 jobs, and becoming full-time real estate investors. With their newfound knowledge, many gravitate toward the easiest type of multifamily property to acquire—quadplexes or four-unit buildings.

      This preference is largely because 2–4 unit properties are classified as residential, meaning they qualify for primary residence mortgages. These loans allow buyers to purchase with lower down payments and take advantage of the best interest rates. Even for investors, this can be beneficial, as they avoid riskier commercial loans that often come with 25-year amortizations, balloon payments, and adjustable rates.

      Now, don’t get me wrong—buying more units often means more cash flow. But there are nuances that many first-time investors don’t consider. Before diving into those challenges, let’s look at the benefits of purchasing a triplex or quadplex:

      1. Higher cash flow potential
      2. Typically lower price per unit, leading to better returns
      3. Easier to manage vacancies compared to single-unit rentals
      4. More tenants in one location—potentially easier than managing multiple properties in different locations

      Of course, there are other reasons why a higher unit count may be attractive, but these tend to be the most significant ones. And let’s be honest—most investors are ultimately driven by financial gain. More units generally mean a higher chance of generating more cash flow.

      However, since we’re talking about investment properties/generating wealth and not just financial and business like returns, it’s also important to consider the time and effort involved in managing them.

      When you purchase a single-family rental or even a duplex, tenants are more likely to treat the property as their own. Think about it—especially with single-family homes, tenants are often responsible for shoveling snow, mowing the lawn, paying all utilities, and maintaining the property. Since they don’t share walls or hallways, they develop a stronger sense of ownership.

      The same principle applies to many duplexes. With a duplex, a tenant is responsible for 50% of the property, which is large enough for them to feel a sense of ownership. But as you introduce more units, that dynamic starts to change. The more people living in a building, the less personal responsibility each tenant feels. This shift increases the landlord’s responsibilities.

      When four separate families live in a building, shared spaces like hallways, driveways, backyards, basements, and laundry areas start to feel less personal to tenants. As a result, maintaining those spaces becomes the landlord’s responsibility.

      Think about large apartment complexes—tenants don’t mow the grass, shovel the snow, or maintain the common areas. The landlord or property management company does. The same concept applies to triplexes and quadplexes. While additional units may bring in more cash flow, managing tasks like lawn care, snow removal, and hallway maintenance becomes more complicated.

      Another overlooked factor is managing tenant relationships.

      With a single-family home, there’s no concern about tenants disturbing each other—there’s no one living above, below, or next to them. With a duplex, there’s still some shared space, but since it’s a 50-50 split, most tenants can find a way to coexist peacefully.

      However, when you introduce more units, you increase the likelihood of interpersonal conflicts. Issues such as noise complaints, cooking smells, parking disputes, and general nuisances become part of the landlord’s job to manage. These aren't hypothetical problems—I personally own a triplex and know someone who owns a 10-unit building. They’ve dealt with complaints ranging from loud neighbors and strange odors to parking disputes and even tenants throwing eggs at cars.

      Another major consideration—especially in my local market—is that quality triplex and quadplex opportunities are rare. The few that do pop up are often overpriced or converted from single-family homes over a century ago. Many of these conversions desperately need full gut renovations.

      If a property hasn’t undergone a major renovation in the past 25 years, it will almost certainly become your responsibility in the near future. I know this firsthand—my first investment property was one of these older conversions. When you combine outdated plumbing, inefficient heating systems, intertwined electrical wiring, and poorly designed layouts, you’re looking at major headaches.

      While some multifamily properties were originally built as rentals, the majority of available triplexes and quadplexes in my market are aging conversions that require extensive rehab. Don’t fall into the trap of being lured by good-looking cash flow numbers—those properties can become money pits.

      To wrap this up, my advice to clients is simple: Don’t overlook a solid duplex while chasing the dream of a better triplex or quadplex.

      Good luck!


       as someone who builds build to rent new construction triplexes in Columbus Ohio and single family homes. from a new construction perspective 3 story walk ups are the most common type of apartments built in the country and in addition in development a triplex is best economies of scale while still staying within residential building codes. We build a triplex for that reason. I don't disagree with a lot of your sentiments but the numbers don't work on duplexes in our market anymore like a traditional duplex where people want to house hack so in my opinion a triplex is the best. it also allows you to have highest asset value possible. in terms of our single family spec homes compared to our spec triplexes the triplex build to rent have the most interest. 


       When it comes to running numbers, triplex will also make more sense. Unfortunately in my market there are slim to no options. And the nice options downtown are too expensive to even consider cash flow. 


       have you looked at new constrction in your market and lot prices? I think I could find a place where the economics are favorable. every city has investments properties 


       Most markets in US are stagnant besides NE market. Thats because there isn't enough new construction. And forget about multi family new construction. Feel free to look it up. The newest multi family home on the market in Bucks County and Montgomery county, NE phila is 1981, and that is an overpriced duplex thats been on the market for 223 days. 1980 is considered very new in my area. 

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    • Robert EllisBusiness Member
      Developer · Miami, FL · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
      1y
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:

      When investors first start learning about real estate investing, many share a common goal: acquiring a large number of units, generating enough cash flow to leave their 9-to-5 jobs, and becoming full-time real estate investors. With their newfound knowledge, many gravitate toward the easiest type of multifamily property to acquire—quadplexes or four-unit buildings.

      This preference is largely because 2–4 unit properties are classified as residential, meaning they qualify for primary residence mortgages. These loans allow buyers to purchase with lower down payments and take advantage of the best interest rates. Even for investors, this can be beneficial, as they avoid riskier commercial loans that often come with 25-year amortizations, balloon payments, and adjustable rates.

      Now, don’t get me wrong—buying more units often means more cash flow. But there are nuances that many first-time investors don’t consider. Before diving into those challenges, let’s look at the benefits of purchasing a triplex or quadplex:

      1. Higher cash flow potential
      2. Typically lower price per unit, leading to better returns
      3. Easier to manage vacancies compared to single-unit rentals
      4. More tenants in one location—potentially easier than managing multiple properties in different locations

      Of course, there are other reasons why a higher unit count may be attractive, but these tend to be the most significant ones. And let’s be honest—most investors are ultimately driven by financial gain. More units generally mean a higher chance of generating more cash flow.

      However, since we’re talking about investment properties/generating wealth and not just financial and business like returns, it’s also important to consider the time and effort involved in managing them.

      When you purchase a single-family rental or even a duplex, tenants are more likely to treat the property as their own. Think about it—especially with single-family homes, tenants are often responsible for shoveling snow, mowing the lawn, paying all utilities, and maintaining the property. Since they don’t share walls or hallways, they develop a stronger sense of ownership.

      The same principle applies to many duplexes. With a duplex, a tenant is responsible for 50% of the property, which is large enough for them to feel a sense of ownership. But as you introduce more units, that dynamic starts to change. The more people living in a building, the less personal responsibility each tenant feels. This shift increases the landlord’s responsibilities.

      When four separate families live in a building, shared spaces like hallways, driveways, backyards, basements, and laundry areas start to feel less personal to tenants. As a result, maintaining those spaces becomes the landlord’s responsibility.

      Think about large apartment complexes—tenants don’t mow the grass, shovel the snow, or maintain the common areas. The landlord or property management company does. The same concept applies to triplexes and quadplexes. While additional units may bring in more cash flow, managing tasks like lawn care, snow removal, and hallway maintenance becomes more complicated.

      Another overlooked factor is managing tenant relationships.

      With a single-family home, there’s no concern about tenants disturbing each other—there’s no one living above, below, or next to them. With a duplex, there’s still some shared space, but since it’s a 50-50 split, most tenants can find a way to coexist peacefully.

      However, when you introduce more units, you increase the likelihood of interpersonal conflicts. Issues such as noise complaints, cooking smells, parking disputes, and general nuisances become part of the landlord’s job to manage. These aren't hypothetical problems—I personally own a triplex and know someone who owns a 10-unit building. They’ve dealt with complaints ranging from loud neighbors and strange odors to parking disputes and even tenants throwing eggs at cars.

      Another major consideration—especially in my local market—is that quality triplex and quadplex opportunities are rare. The few that do pop up are often overpriced or converted from single-family homes over a century ago. Many of these conversions desperately need full gut renovations.

      If a property hasn’t undergone a major renovation in the past 25 years, it will almost certainly become your responsibility in the near future. I know this firsthand—my first investment property was one of these older conversions. When you combine outdated plumbing, inefficient heating systems, intertwined electrical wiring, and poorly designed layouts, you’re looking at major headaches.

      While some multifamily properties were originally built as rentals, the majority of available triplexes and quadplexes in my market are aging conversions that require extensive rehab. Don’t fall into the trap of being lured by good-looking cash flow numbers—those properties can become money pits.

      To wrap this up, my advice to clients is simple: Don’t overlook a solid duplex while chasing the dream of a better triplex or quadplex.

      Good luck!


       as someone who builds build to rent new construction triplexes in Columbus Ohio and single family homes. from a new construction perspective 3 story walk ups are the most common type of apartments built in the country and in addition in development a triplex is best economies of scale while still staying within residential building codes. We build a triplex for that reason. I don't disagree with a lot of your sentiments but the numbers don't work on duplexes in our market anymore like a traditional duplex where people want to house hack so in my opinion a triplex is the best. it also allows you to have highest asset value possible. in terms of our single family spec homes compared to our spec triplexes the triplex build to rent have the most interest. 


       When it comes to running numbers, triplex will also make more sense. Unfortunately in my market there are slim to no options. And the nice options downtown are too expensive to even consider cash flow. 


       have you looked at new constrction in your market and lot prices? I think I could find a place where the economics are favorable. every city has investments properties 


       Most markets in US are stagnant besides NE market. Thats because there isn't enough new construction. And forget about multi family new construction. Feel free to look it up. The newest multi family home on the market in Bucks County and Montgomery county, NE phila is 1981, and that is an overpriced duplex thats been on the market for 223 days. 1980 is considered very new in my area. 


       I'm going to let you in on a little secret called zoning. go read your zoning codes on where allows multifamily and then rezone to it or find those plots of land. super simple. you make it sound like it's impossible yet I'm sure there are apartments being built 

    • Alan AsriantsBusiness Member
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      Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
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      When investors first start learning about real estate investing, many share a common goal: acquiring a large number of units, generating enough cash flow to leave their 9-to-5 jobs, and becoming full-time real estate investors. With their newfound knowledge, many gravitate toward the easiest type of multifamily property to acquire—quadplexes or four-unit buildings.

      This preference is largely because 2–4 unit properties are classified as residential, meaning they qualify for primary residence mortgages. These loans allow buyers to purchase with lower down payments and take advantage of the best interest rates. Even for investors, this can be beneficial, as they avoid riskier commercial loans that often come with 25-year amortizations, balloon payments, and adjustable rates.

      Now, don’t get me wrong—buying more units often means more cash flow. But there are nuances that many first-time investors don’t consider. Before diving into those challenges, let’s look at the benefits of purchasing a triplex or quadplex:

      1. Higher cash flow potential
      2. Typically lower price per unit, leading to better returns
      3. Easier to manage vacancies compared to single-unit rentals
      4. More tenants in one location—potentially easier than managing multiple properties in different locations

      Of course, there are other reasons why a higher unit count may be attractive, but these tend to be the most significant ones. And let’s be honest—most investors are ultimately driven by financial gain. More units generally mean a higher chance of generating more cash flow.

      However, since we’re talking about investment properties/generating wealth and not just financial and business like returns, it’s also important to consider the time and effort involved in managing them.

      When you purchase a single-family rental or even a duplex, tenants are more likely to treat the property as their own. Think about it—especially with single-family homes, tenants are often responsible for shoveling snow, mowing the lawn, paying all utilities, and maintaining the property. Since they don’t share walls or hallways, they develop a stronger sense of ownership.

      The same principle applies to many duplexes. With a duplex, a tenant is responsible for 50% of the property, which is large enough for them to feel a sense of ownership. But as you introduce more units, that dynamic starts to change. The more people living in a building, the less personal responsibility each tenant feels. This shift increases the landlord’s responsibilities.

      When four separate families live in a building, shared spaces like hallways, driveways, backyards, basements, and laundry areas start to feel less personal to tenants. As a result, maintaining those spaces becomes the landlord’s responsibility.

      Think about large apartment complexes—tenants don’t mow the grass, shovel the snow, or maintain the common areas. The landlord or property management company does. The same concept applies to triplexes and quadplexes. While additional units may bring in more cash flow, managing tasks like lawn care, snow removal, and hallway maintenance becomes more complicated.

      Another overlooked factor is managing tenant relationships.

      With a single-family home, there’s no concern about tenants disturbing each other—there’s no one living above, below, or next to them. With a duplex, there’s still some shared space, but since it’s a 50-50 split, most tenants can find a way to coexist peacefully.

      However, when you introduce more units, you increase the likelihood of interpersonal conflicts. Issues such as noise complaints, cooking smells, parking disputes, and general nuisances become part of the landlord’s job to manage. These aren't hypothetical problems—I personally own a triplex and know someone who owns a 10-unit building. They’ve dealt with complaints ranging from loud neighbors and strange odors to parking disputes and even tenants throwing eggs at cars.

      Another major consideration—especially in my local market—is that quality triplex and quadplex opportunities are rare. The few that do pop up are often overpriced or converted from single-family homes over a century ago. Many of these conversions desperately need full gut renovations.

      If a property hasn’t undergone a major renovation in the past 25 years, it will almost certainly become your responsibility in the near future. I know this firsthand—my first investment property was one of these older conversions. When you combine outdated plumbing, inefficient heating systems, intertwined electrical wiring, and poorly designed layouts, you’re looking at major headaches.

      While some multifamily properties were originally built as rentals, the majority of available triplexes and quadplexes in my market are aging conversions that require extensive rehab. Don’t fall into the trap of being lured by good-looking cash flow numbers—those properties can become money pits.

      To wrap this up, my advice to clients is simple: Don’t overlook a solid duplex while chasing the dream of a better triplex or quadplex.

      Good luck!


       as someone who builds build to rent new construction triplexes in Columbus Ohio and single family homes. from a new construction perspective 3 story walk ups are the most common type of apartments built in the country and in addition in development a triplex is best economies of scale while still staying within residential building codes. We build a triplex for that reason. I don't disagree with a lot of your sentiments but the numbers don't work on duplexes in our market anymore like a traditional duplex where people want to house hack so in my opinion a triplex is the best. it also allows you to have highest asset value possible. in terms of our single family spec homes compared to our spec triplexes the triplex build to rent have the most interest. 


       When it comes to running numbers, triplex will also make more sense. Unfortunately in my market there are slim to no options. And the nice options downtown are too expensive to even consider cash flow. 


       have you looked at new constrction in your market and lot prices? I think I could find a place where the economics are favorable. every city has investments properties 


       Most markets in US are stagnant besides NE market. Thats because there isn't enough new construction. And forget about multi family new construction. Feel free to look it up. The newest multi family home on the market in Bucks County and Montgomery county, NE phila is 1981, and that is an overpriced duplex thats been on the market for 223 days. 1980 is considered very new in my area. 


       I'm going to let you in on a little secret called zoning. go read your zoning codes on where allows multifamily and then rezone to it or find those plots of land. super simple. you make it sound like it's impossible yet I'm sure there are apartments being built 


       Are you serious? Zoning, I've never heard of that! How simple it really is!

      Robert, please do your research before you suggest such silly things. There is a housing shortage in NE areas for the exact problem you think is so simple to fix. Not only is land so expensive, but the process of rezoning the land not only requires a lot of capital of soft costs that are really expensive and often not financeable, but then you have to build on it which is also not cheap. Local townships are really tough to convince to rezone land to Mulit family. Its the exact opposite of what they want in their zoning plans. 

      I will agree with you, nothing is impossible. But I highly doubt you would find something that you claim is so "super simple." 

      Please prove me wrong. Find a plot of land that you can simply rezone in my area, where it would make sense to build a multi family building. Then put it here for all of us to evaluate and we can decide how super simple it is. 

      Thanks

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    • Robert EllisBusiness Member
      Developer · Miami, FL · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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      Quote from @Alan Asriants:
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:
      Quote from @Robert Ellis:
      Quote from @Alan Asriants:

      When investors first start learning about real estate investing, many share a common goal: acquiring a large number of units, generating enough cash flow to leave their 9-to-5 jobs, and becoming full-time real estate investors. With their newfound knowledge, many gravitate toward the easiest type of multifamily property to acquire—quadplexes or four-unit buildings.

      This preference is largely because 2–4 unit properties are classified as residential, meaning they qualify for primary residence mortgages. These loans allow buyers to purchase with lower down payments and take advantage of the best interest rates. Even for investors, this can be beneficial, as they avoid riskier commercial loans that often come with 25-year amortizations, balloon payments, and adjustable rates.

      Now, don’t get me wrong—buying more units often means more cash flow. But there are nuances that many first-time investors don’t consider. Before diving into those challenges, let’s look at the benefits of purchasing a triplex or quadplex:

      1. Higher cash flow potential
      2. Typically lower price per unit, leading to better returns
      3. Easier to manage vacancies compared to single-unit rentals
      4. More tenants in one location—potentially easier than managing multiple properties in different locations

      Of course, there are other reasons why a higher unit count may be attractive, but these tend to be the most significant ones. And let’s be honest—most investors are ultimately driven by financial gain. More units generally mean a higher chance of generating more cash flow.

      However, since we’re talking about investment properties/generating wealth and not just financial and business like returns, it’s also important to consider the time and effort involved in managing them.

      When you purchase a single-family rental or even a duplex, tenants are more likely to treat the property as their own. Think about it—especially with single-family homes, tenants are often responsible for shoveling snow, mowing the lawn, paying all utilities, and maintaining the property. Since they don’t share walls or hallways, they develop a stronger sense of ownership.

      The same principle applies to many duplexes. With a duplex, a tenant is responsible for 50% of the property, which is large enough for them to feel a sense of ownership. But as you introduce more units, that dynamic starts to change. The more people living in a building, the less personal responsibility each tenant feels. This shift increases the landlord’s responsibilities.

      When four separate families live in a building, shared spaces like hallways, driveways, backyards, basements, and laundry areas start to feel less personal to tenants. As a result, maintaining those spaces becomes the landlord’s responsibility.

      Think about large apartment complexes—tenants don’t mow the grass, shovel the snow, or maintain the common areas. The landlord or property management company does. The same concept applies to triplexes and quadplexes. While additional units may bring in more cash flow, managing tasks like lawn care, snow removal, and hallway maintenance becomes more complicated.

      Another overlooked factor is managing tenant relationships.

      With a single-family home, there’s no concern about tenants disturbing each other—there’s no one living above, below, or next to them. With a duplex, there’s still some shared space, but since it’s a 50-50 split, most tenants can find a way to coexist peacefully.

      However, when you introduce more units, you increase the likelihood of interpersonal conflicts. Issues such as noise complaints, cooking smells, parking disputes, and general nuisances become part of the landlord’s job to manage. These aren't hypothetical problems—I personally own a triplex and know someone who owns a 10-unit building. They’ve dealt with complaints ranging from loud neighbors and strange odors to parking disputes and even tenants throwing eggs at cars.

      Another major consideration—especially in my local market—is that quality triplex and quadplex opportunities are rare. The few that do pop up are often overpriced or converted from single-family homes over a century ago. Many of these conversions desperately need full gut renovations.

      If a property hasn’t undergone a major renovation in the past 25 years, it will almost certainly become your responsibility in the near future. I know this firsthand—my first investment property was one of these older conversions. When you combine outdated plumbing, inefficient heating systems, intertwined electrical wiring, and poorly designed layouts, you’re looking at major headaches.

      While some multifamily properties were originally built as rentals, the majority of available triplexes and quadplexes in my market are aging conversions that require extensive rehab. Don’t fall into the trap of being lured by good-looking cash flow numbers—those properties can become money pits.

      To wrap this up, my advice to clients is simple: Don’t overlook a solid duplex while chasing the dream of a better triplex or quadplex.

      Good luck!


       as someone who builds build to rent new construction triplexes in Columbus Ohio and single family homes. from a new construction perspective 3 story walk ups are the most common type of apartments built in the country and in addition in development a triplex is best economies of scale while still staying within residential building codes. We build a triplex for that reason. I don't disagree with a lot of your sentiments but the numbers don't work on duplexes in our market anymore like a traditional duplex where people want to house hack so in my opinion a triplex is the best. it also allows you to have highest asset value possible. in terms of our single family spec homes compared to our spec triplexes the triplex build to rent have the most interest. 


       When it comes to running numbers, triplex will also make more sense. Unfortunately in my market there are slim to no options. And the nice options downtown are too expensive to even consider cash flow. 


       have you looked at new constrction in your market and lot prices? I think I could find a place where the economics are favorable. every city has investments properties 


       Most markets in US are stagnant besides NE market. Thats because there isn't enough new construction. And forget about multi family new construction. Feel free to look it up. The newest multi family home on the market in Bucks County and Montgomery county, NE phila is 1981, and that is an overpriced duplex thats been on the market for 223 days. 1980 is considered very new in my area. 


       I'm going to let you in on a little secret called zoning. go read your zoning codes on where allows multifamily and then rezone to it or find those plots of land. super simple. you make it sound like it's impossible yet I'm sure there are apartments being built 


       Are you serious? Zoning, I've never heard of that! How simple it really is!

      Robert, please do your research before you suggest such silly things. There is a housing shortage in NE areas for the exact problem you think is so simple to fix. Not only is land so expensive, but the process of rezoning the land not only requires a lot of capital of soft costs that are really expensive and often not financeable, but then you have to build on it which is also not cheap. Local townships are really tough to convince to rezone land to Mulit family. Its the exact opposite of what they want in their zoning plans. 

      I will agree with you, nothing is impossible. But I highly doubt you would find something that you claim is so "super simple." 

      Please prove me wrong. Find a plot of land that you can simply rezone in my area, where it would make sense to build a multi family building. Then put it here for all of us to evaluate and we can decide how super simple it is. 

      Thanks


      sound like a realtor 

  • Drew SygitBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Royal Oak, MI · Member since 2012 · 13k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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    Depends on the layout.

    Have seen 3 & 4 units properties that were townhouse/row style with no shared space except yard and parking.

    Also depends on property Class.

    Class A rentals attract best tenants who usually take care of their homes, no matter the number of units.

    Go down to Class C/D properties and those tenants are what you refer to.

    • Alan AsriantsBusiness Member
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      Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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      Quote from @Drew Sygit:

      Depends on the layout.

      Have seen 3 & 4 units properties that were townhouse/row style with no shared space except yard and parking.

      Also depends on property Class.

      Class A rentals attract best tenants who usually take care of their homes, no matter the number of units.

      Go down to Class C/D properties and those tenants are what you refer to.

       I've never seen that kind of layout here is east coast. Its possible its available elsewhere. In that event a side by side by side will certainly alleviate that concern. But in my area you're talking easily over $1m price point for something like that. Side by side beat up duplex in my area goes for 650k. If one of those options, which I don't think exist even close to here come onto the market there will be a war for it. This puts any newbie out of contention unfortunately. 

      in terms of class, I agree to an extent. But it all depends on the relationship between the tenants. More variables more opportunities for disagreements. 

      Its just something to consider. Doesn't mean that you shouldn't buy a triplex

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  • Gregory SchwartzBusiness Member
    Rental Property Investor · College Station, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    You make some really good points. I've invested in both single-family and multifamily (duplexes fourplex , etc.). Turnover is definitely higher on the multifamily to closer to an apartment complex you get the closer you get to two year average occupancies. People like to point out that you're buying four units with only one roof, but they forget to mention that you have four water heaters and four HVAC. 

    Even taking all that into account. My four Plex units tend to cash flow better and have appreciated as well as my single family invest investments. 

  • Investor · Miami, FL · Member since 2015 · 355 posts · 268 votes
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    2-4 units typically sit on the same size lots and have the same FAR's meaning the buildable square footage is the same. So the developer can build 4 smaller units or 2 larger units, assuming zoning allows. The 4 will still generally cashflow better overall but usually nowhere near double a comparable 2-unit.

    • Alan AsriantsBusiness Member
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      Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2019 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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      Quote from @Robert Rixer:

      2-4 units typically sit on the same size lots and have the same FAR's meaning the buildable square footage is the same. So the developer can build 4 smaller units or 2 larger units, assuming zoning allows. The 4 will still generally cashflow better overall but usually nowhere near double a comparable 2-unit.


       In the city of Philadelphia, if you have RM1 zoning, you can build 2-4 unit by right. The issue becomes if you want 3+ units you need to start adding in sprinkler system costs. These will certainly increase your budget - which is why many avoid building 3+ units, but you also need space to fit your system. 

      There are also specific 2-family zoning overlays in philadelphia. Only allowing 2 family homes. There is nothing specific for only 3 or 4 unit. 

      When you go outside the city, most townships have very little land available for multi family construction. You likely need variances for those. Duplex zoning is much easier to permit than 3+ units, due to local ordinances and zoning plan. I have a duplex in Bensalem. in Bensalem there is a specific 2 family zoning code. There are no specific 3 or 4 family zoning codes, only for a duplex. In the entire township, there is only one pocket where that use is by right. and it has been already built on. So in order to build a multi family in this township, you need possibly commercial zoning, or a variance. 

      This is the case for most townships in the surrounding areas of Montgomery and Bucks county. 

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