Can I retire like this? (3.2 million net worth)

Can I retire like this? (3.2 million net worth)

Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

Background:

I just turned 40. My net worth is 3.2 million. 1 million liquid cash, the other 2 million is equity in my houses including primary residence and rental properties for a total of 8 properties. Cash flow is about 30K a year because I cash out refinanced a couple years ago to buy more properties with the equity rather than using cash on hand. Real estate has been my bread and butter, it's how I made my 3 million. At this point, I make 1 million a year off of it (appreciation, cash flow and principal pay down). Again, I make 1 million a year off appreciation and such when the market is good, which is most of the time...factor that in.

I was planning on buying two more houses with a total of 300K down to ride the appreciation wave long term, two more houses that will be paid off when I'm older, etc. I had planned on retiring at 40 with 1 million, this was the plan I made when I was 30. Now I have three times that but life is more expensive and complicated than it was 10 years ago. 

My living expenses:

Because I rent out part of my house, I mostly live for free housing wise. Outside of that my living expenses as far as base are 1K, but realistically 2K. That includes money to date, buy a trinket here and there, etc. To be really comfortable I'd like to have 4K a month passive income in retirement. With a paid off house, in a low property tax state, utilities, taxes, maintenance, insurance should round up to 1K. That leaves 1K for gas, car insurance, food, incidentals, internet, phone, etc. So that brings me up to 2K per month. But I'd like another 2K buffer as I have occasional rental expenses such as repairs, appliances, etc. plus I date a lot and when in a relationship we have a tendency to travel. I've been to Tampa and Orlando 4 times in 3 years with 3 different women (one of them twice). 

The why:

I'm tired of working and life. I've had many recent heart breaks and I don't want to work anymore. I haven't wanted to work for a long time but now I'm really done. I had two health scares and almost died at 29 and 34, I'm not promised another day. They say stress causes cancer. I've worked so hard, MBA, 18 career certifications that were hard to get, own and manage rentals, two full time tech management jobs, two part time jobs. I've been working so hard. To top it off I've had a series of failed relationships last few years. After having a long period of stability with one girl for 9 years, I'm an emotional mess, dating is getting harder as I get older, the women are not as good looking and all seem to have baggage/issues. After a recent life assessment I did, I realized everything in my life that I worked toward came to pass. But my relationships are rocky. I'd like to take time and heal, grow and find a life long forever girl. One that stays. Even through the bad.

How I'm thinking of doing it:

-Relocating from WA to a cheaper part of Texas, Tennessee or Florida. With the equity of my primary residence, I should be able to buy a paid off house for cash. That will drastically reduce my living expenses.-Take 1 million cash and put it in index funds or split between Apple, Tesla, Amazon, Google and Microsoft and live off 3% withdrawal rate of about 30K a year. Supplement that with rental income from properties as is, which is about 24K a year cash flow.

OR....

-Still relocate, but cash out refinance 1 million out of the houses before retiring. Between living off index funds and 1 million pulled out of the houses, that money should EASILY last me 10 years, realistically 15-20 years. By then the rents will have risen enough that they will cash flow enough I don't have to cash out refinance anymore for money to live off of. There are some people who do the cash out refinance thing every few years to live off of. Bonus is that it's tax free, it's a loan so not taxable income.

OR....

-Still relocated, use the 1 million to pay off 3 of the rentals, which should give me about 6K a month cash flow plus another 1K from the others that are still mortgaged. Move into a paid off house and retire. I like this because I've always lost my money in the stock market no matter what I've done. Options, swing trading, day trading, index funds, you name it. But real estate I've always made money. It's how I made my 3 million. At this point, I make 1 million a year off of it...so in a year I'll be worth 4 mil, in 2 years 5 mil, etc. At that point I could really retire without worrying. Maybe I hold off for now and grind a little longer. But two full time jobs, two part time ones, 8 houses and all the studying has really worn on me. Add to that endless heart ache from relationships last few years and I'm emotionally done. I want to destress and go live. 

Some problems with this:

If I move to FL, TX or TN, I'll be too far to manage the properties. My best friend will move with me but he said his parents could help out. So far I've been doing ok with video tours and hiring contractors lately. Not cheap but way cheaper than a PM. Liquidating them and moving them is risky as I may move somewhere else if I don't like it, or move back. But the properties make it very difficult to relocate since they are easier to manage locally. If I hire a PM, all my cash flow is basically gone.

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Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
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Thoughts:

1. If a PM kills your cash flow then I assume the bulk of your income is made from appreciation, with a smaller amount made from mortgage paydown.

2. I live in one of the cheapest states there is (TN) and it would be a tough road at 4k even with a paid-off house, if that 4k had to also account for the needs of the properties owned. Now if the 4k was just for your expenses, with a paid-off house, you could do that here. So you'd need to get the "business" to be self-sustaining first. 

3. While appreciation is where you make a lot of your worth, cash flow is what feeds you. Your portfolio sounds upside down for your ultimate goal of retiring early and living off the cash flow. A $3 million portfolio that only generates $30k in cash flow annually isn't even returning half a percent; if it was a single multi-family with that kind of cap rate you wouldn't be able to unload it on anyone. 

4. Here in TN the only health care is the federal marketplace outside of your job, if you're not so poor as to qualify for medicaid. The religious "health care" you're referring to is a health-sharing plan and independent studies of them generally rate them as garbage. So I wouldn't count on that for health care; you're best off going through the ACA marketplace.

It sounds like you've generally kicked ***, and nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy the fruits of victory. I recently retired myself, and I'm still a relatively young guy in my 50s. Based on what you have here and my limited knowledge of your situation, and that you don't mind moving, if it were me I would probably: sell everything but perhaps one of the strongest appreciating properties, pay that one off so you could hire a manager when you move, move to a cheaper state, 1031 most of the rest of it into better cash-flowing properties. $3 million worth of portfolio, even in today's ridiculous priced market, ought to be able to generate you $150-200k worth of cash flow a year, and that's certainly enough to retire more or less anywhere in the US. 

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  • Real Estate Agent · Portsmouth NH · Member since 2020 · 13 posts · 6 votes
    4y

    @Jack B.

    Sorry to hear about all of that. Hopefully it all turns around soon! 

    I know the normal stocks statement is that for every $1 million you have you can take out about 4% or 40k a year without taking down your principle. Obviously inflation has changed that (i believe I read an article saying it would be closer to about 35k a year). Adding cashflow from real estate investments can add to that. But I really think the best advice is to find a wealth management advisor where you'd like to settle down and discuss your options. Make sure they have experience with working with REI like yourself because most REI prioritize having a certain amount of cash on hand as opposed to mostly invested. By getting an advisor in the area you want to settle down they'll better understand local tax laws and also have contacts you may need such as accountants to create a better aligned strategy. Hopefully one thing they may recommend is municipal bonds. As REI we hate when rates rise but what that also does is help the bonds market payout (which most are tax free income). I am not licensed in financial advice so I'm not advising you to invest in anything but these are definitely things I would bring up with someone who is licensed to help you out. I hope my 2 cents helped.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    4y

    as you get older your health insurance is going to take a big chunk  IF you have top flight insurance that is.. 700 to 1000 a month.. right there.

    then medicare is based on your income so if you get your income down when you apply for it in 25 years who knows.

    I dont see how anyone can live off of the amounts your talking about.. but then again I am married so there is that.

  • Mike ReynoldsPro Member
    construction · Nacogdoches, TX · Member since 2011 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Matthew Balter:

    @Jack B.

    Sorry to hear about all of that. Hopefully it all turns around soon! 

    I know the normal stocks statement is that for every $1 million you have you can take out about 4% or 40k a year without taking down your principle. Obviously inflation has changed that (i believe I read an article saying it would be closer to about 35k a year). Adding cashflow from real estate investments can add to that. But I really think the best advice is to find a wealth management advisor where you'd like to settle down and discuss your options. Make sure they have experience with working with REI like yourself because most REI prioritize having a certain amount of cash on hand as opposed to mostly invested. By getting an advisor in the area you want to settle down they'll better understand local tax laws and also have contacts you may need such as accountants to create a better aligned strategy. Hopefully one thing they may recommend is municipal bonds. As REI we hate when rates rise but what that also does is help the bonds market payout (which most are tax free income). I am not licensed in financial advice so I'm not advising you to invest in anything but these are definitely things I would bring up with someone who is licensed to help you out. I hope my 2 cents helped.


     Sell it all except the one you would personally live in (in case you want to move back). Then 1031 the money into something else near where you are thinking about heading. My thinking is this. You still want something to do and since you have always done a lot of it yourself why not? I'm thinking a mobile home park that is already stabilized and just charge lot rent. There will still be things to do there but you have freedom to move around as you want to. 

    But first I would take several vacations to scout out the areas you are thinking about. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Sisters, OR · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    If I were you I would absolutely quit my job.  I would move somewhere warm and get a girl friend and probably a puppy.  

    It seems to me you could work somewhere easy and fun part-time that was flexible (bar tend, coffee guy, whatever) make 2 or 3k a month (after a year or so off) and still have all your rental income and many respectable ladies out there would think you were a catch!  I wouldn't worry about maximizing appreciation etc.  Go trade your properties for something easy to manage, give you good cashflow, and sacrifice some appreciation.  Then you can kick back and enjoy all the time and relaxation that will afford you.  

    Your done buddy take a bunch of those chips off the table, then let your boss know and do it!

    I don't see any sense in waiting best of luck,

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles · Member since 2018 · 844 posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    You have a lot of dry powder and equity which isn't bring you very much in the way of cash-flow. Since you are single and willing to relocate, I would liquidate everything and buy a small, low maintenance house in the place you want to live. And don't limit yourself to just the US either. Use your remaining 2.5 million or so to buy public REITs or syndications and live off the six figure cash flow that will provide you. 

    I'm with @Jay Hinrichs regarding your cash flow figures. I think you can do much better.

    BTW, as a married man who wouldn't have a prayer at doing anything like the above, I envy your situation. I would love to convert everything to zero-maintenance, high cash-flowing assets and live in a nice beach city in Spain or Asia or south of the border.

  • Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Quote from @Eric Bilderback:

    If I were you I would absolutely quit my job.  I would move somewhere warm and get a girl friend and probably a puppy.  

    It seems to me you could work somewhere easy and fun part-time that was flexible (bar tend, coffee guy, whatever) make 2 or 3k a month (after a year or so off) and still have all your rental income and many respectable ladies out there would think you were a catch!  I wouldn't worry about maximizing appreciation etc.  Go trade your properties for something easy to manage, give you good cashflow, and sacrifice some appreciation.  Then you can kick back and enjoy all the time and relaxation that will afford you.  

    Your done buddy take a bunch of those chips off the table, then let your boss know and do it!

    I don't see any sense in waiting best of luck,


     Thank you, may I ask why you would do the same if you were in my situation?

  • Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:

    as you get older your health insurance is going to take a big chunk  IF you have top flight insurance that is.. 700 to 1000 a month.. right there.

    then medicare is based on your income so if you get your income down when you apply for it in 25 years who knows.

    I dont see how anyone can live off of the amounts your talking about.. but then again I am married so there is that.

     If I make below 40K a year (easy to do with a paid off house in a LCOLA) in many states such as my current one you get free health insurance. Dental not included, but there is Groupon for that. Also there are religious organizations that have a flat fee $150 a month health plan. I found this out from my friend who is below 40K a year and got free health insurance instead of paying $500 a month through his employer plan....

  • Real Estate Agent · Sisters, OR · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Jack B.:
    Quote from @Eric Bilderback:

    If I were you I would absolutely quit my job.  I would move somewhere warm and get a girl friend and probably a puppy.  

    It seems to me you could work somewhere easy and fun part-time that was flexible (bar tend, coffee guy, whatever) make 2 or 3k a month (after a year or so off) and still have all your rental income and many respectable ladies out there would think you were a catch!  I wouldn't worry about maximizing appreciation etc.  Go trade your properties for something easy to manage, give you good cashflow, and sacrifice some appreciation.  Then you can kick back and enjoy all the time and relaxation that will afford you.  

    Your done buddy take a bunch of those chips off the table, then let your boss know and do it!

    I don't see any sense in waiting best of luck,


     Thank you, may I ask why you would do the same if you were in my situation?


     You have 3+ million dollars.  If work is making you miserable quit.

  • Real Estate Broker · Memphis, TN · Member since 2020 · 202 posts · 203 votes
    4y

    Most people who get themselves to your position realistically won't be happy once they conventionally retire. 

    Regardless of the portfolio decision, I believe that you have the capital & net worth to pivot into a "career" that you enjoy. They are out there. Personally, I would set up people's beach chairs for them in the mornings at a nice resort. After a break that is long enough for you to recharge. Just my two cents, I am towards the beginning of my journey. 

  • Rental Property Investor · South shore, MA · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    Congratulations on your success.. hard work pays off.

    I would suggest taking some of that effort and put it into your personal life! There needs to be a balance IMO. 

    Nothing good comes easy, but that applies to every area of your life. It all takes hard work. 

  • Joe S.Pro Member
    Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    4y

    What are your certificates/degrees in?

  • JD MartinBusiness Member
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    Rock Star Extraordinaire · Northeast, TN · Member since 2015 · 10k+ posts · 16k+ votes
    4y

    Thoughts:

    1. If a PM kills your cash flow then I assume the bulk of your income is made from appreciation, with a smaller amount made from mortgage paydown.

    2. I live in one of the cheapest states there is (TN) and it would be a tough road at 4k even with a paid-off house, if that 4k had to also account for the needs of the properties owned. Now if the 4k was just for your expenses, with a paid-off house, you could do that here. So you'd need to get the "business" to be self-sustaining first. 

    3. While appreciation is where you make a lot of your worth, cash flow is what feeds you. Your portfolio sounds upside down for your ultimate goal of retiring early and living off the cash flow. A $3 million portfolio that only generates $30k in cash flow annually isn't even returning half a percent; if it was a single multi-family with that kind of cap rate you wouldn't be able to unload it on anyone. 

    4. Here in TN the only health care is the federal marketplace outside of your job, if you're not so poor as to qualify for medicaid. The religious "health care" you're referring to is a health-sharing plan and independent studies of them generally rate them as garbage. So I wouldn't count on that for health care; you're best off going through the ACA marketplace.

    It sounds like you've generally kicked ***, and nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy the fruits of victory. I recently retired myself, and I'm still a relatively young guy in my 50s. Based on what you have here and my limited knowledge of your situation, and that you don't mind moving, if it were me I would probably: sell everything but perhaps one of the strongest appreciating properties, pay that one off so you could hire a manager when you move, move to a cheaper state, 1031 most of the rest of it into better cash-flowing properties. $3 million worth of portfolio, even in today's ridiculous priced market, ought to be able to generate you $150-200k worth of cash flow a year, and that's certainly enough to retire more or less anywhere in the US. 

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  • Rental Property Investor · Denver, CO · Member since 2019 · 78 posts · 66 votes
    4y

    @Jack B. You sound scared to quit your job. I get it. Change is hard. Just take the leap. What’s the worst that happens? You have to get another job at some point? So what? You already hate the one you have. It’s the most difficult choices and conversations that are often the ones that have the best result.

    You’ll watch your finances closely once you don’t have a job for a while until you’re comfortable and realize you’re okay. It may also motivate you to find ways to optimize your income and enjoyment.

  • Property Manager · Raleigh/Durham NC · Member since 2015 · 210 posts · 293 votes
    4y

    @Jack B. There are a lot of good youtube videos of people that retire early and break down how they live. 

    My favorite is this one w/ Graham breaking down their video.

    (link won't post in this thread so type this in the youtube search bar): Millionaire reacts: retiring early on $870K in Arizona

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @JD Martin:

    Thoughts:

    1. If a PM kills your cash flow then I assume the bulk of your income is made from appreciation, with a smaller amount made from mortgage paydown.

    2. I live in one of the cheapest states there is (TN) and it would be a tough road at 4k even with a paid-off house, if that 4k had to also account for the needs of the properties owned. Now if the 4k was just for your expenses, with a paid-off house, you could do that here. So you'd need to get the "business" to be self-sustaining first. 

    3. While appreciation is where you make a lot of your worth, cash flow is what feeds you. Your portfolio sounds upside down for your ultimate goal of retiring early and living off the cash flow. A $3 million portfolio that only generates $30k in cash flow annually isn't even returning half a percent; if it was a single multi-family with that kind of cap rate you wouldn't be able to unload it on anyone. 

    4. Here in TN the only health care is the federal marketplace outside of your job, if you're not so poor as to qualify for medicaid. The religious "health care" you're referring to is a health-sharing plan and independent studies of them generally rate them as garbage. So I wouldn't count on that for health care; you're best off going through the ACA marketplace.

    It sounds like you've generally kicked ***, and nothing wrong with wanting to enjoy the fruits of victory. I recently retired myself, and I'm still a relatively young guy in my 50s. Based on what you have here and my limited knowledge of your situation, and that you don't mind moving, if it were me I would probably: sell everything but perhaps one of the strongest appreciating properties, pay that one off so you could hire a manager when you move, move to a cheaper state, 1031 most of the rest of it into better cash-flowing properties. $3 million worth of portfolio, even in today's ridiculous priced market, ought to be able to generate you $150-200k worth of cash flow a year, and that's certainly enough to retire more or less anywhere in the US. 


     exactly their is health care then there is health care and as you age out it does become a focus and also there is potential income tax that would come to play although moving to a state with no state income tax helps.. FLA comes to mind for retirement.  As successful RE investors the thought of being able to live on 40k a year is just well I dont know how anyone could do that other than being a stay at home investors  LOL

  • Investor · Milwaukee - Mequon, WI · Member since 2010 · 5k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    4y

    Sorry to hear @Jack B. - clearly you need some change and you are wrestlying with the finality of it. But that is actullay a self-imposed condition. 

    How about you quit your job and go away for a year, get lost, for example go to Thailand, rent a house on the beach, someone to cook and clean for you, it's cheap. Do nothing until you are done doing nothing.

    After a year you will probably feel very different about life, work and everything else. You can then come back and work in tech agin, maybe a different field or company, part time, full time or as a consultant... or whatever you feel like. The point is: you don't need to decide the rest of your life today! You don't even need to leave Seattle.

    If you are tired (burnt out), get the rest you need. But trust me on this: if you are a race horse (and you sound like you've been one), retirement is not fun. I know because I have tried.

  • Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 708 votes
    4y

    Yours is really a financial advice question, rather than a real estate question.  I strongly urge you to visit www. Early-retirement.org. This is a very large and active online forum mostly of folks who either did or are planning on doing what you are thinking about (I.e. retire early).  If you post your question there and provide enough information, you will get plenty of useful input.  It all depends on your lifestyle, your needs and wants.  On early-retirement.org, you will find tons of people who live happily on 40k or less a year.  You’ll also find folks who need 400k a year.  So, you will get advice on how to figure things out and what questions to ask yourself.

    Regarding real estate, you will find plenty of successful real estate folks on early-retirement.org, but you will also find folks who would never touch real estate and would much rather focus on other types of investments.  In the end, like I said, yours is a bigger picture question.  Real Estate is only one way to answer it.  While I lover RE and BiggerPockets, you will obviously tent to get RE focused advice here.  Nothing wrong with that, but my advice is to look for input beyond just RE for this particular issue.

  • Dana WhickerPro Member
    Investor · Fernandina Beach, FL · Member since 2014 · 557 posts · 374 votes
    4y

    @Jack B. You gotta do something brother. You're hurting. It's right there in your words. I hope you don't mind me suggesting some counseling. Maybe seek out a talk therapist. At a minimum, quit some of those jobs. Pick the most stressful one and quit today.

    Hope this helps.

  • Rental Property Investor · Chicago and mainly invests in KS remotely · Member since 2018 · 360 posts · 314 votes
    4y

    @Jack B. look into retiring in a socialized medicine country like Canada or Germany. You take healthcare out of the equation, your net worth is doable to retire, otherwise, it's not enough. You have to pay US taxes for your RE though, but I don't think that's a huge deal. Plus Europe is 10x better than US for idyllic living and travelling is way more fun.


    check out nomad capitalist on YouTube. 

  • Spring, TX · Member since 2017 · 1 post · 1 vote
    4y

    You have already quit in your mind.  Quit now and make it work.  You didn't accumulate real estate by thinking about buying something, you went out and did it.  Anything you want bad enough you can make it happen.  Good luck!

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2020 · 26 posts · 18 votes
    4y

    You've done really well, so congrats on your success.  

    My advice is that you work through some of the issues that you have been struggling with rather than ignoring them and moving (in this case physically) to a different place.  I'd be worried that it sounds like a form of escape.  I don't blame you for it - most in your situation would probably do it.  I don't see any issue with you moving generally, but I just would want to make sure that you're doing it for the right reasons, not to escape.

    Beyond that, you've put yourself in a great position financially to have a lot of options.  You could sell in WA and buy in the new city, you could keep the old in WA and be a long-distance landlord (challenging but doable with the right protections involved), you could stay where you are and continue until you are in an even better position financially.  None of those would be bad moves.  

    With respect to the cash, you've got to invest that (at least everything over your cash emergency fund - like 6 months of expenses or whatever you're comfortable with).  Put it in VTI or VOO or another low-cost, well diversified index fund (I prefer ETFs to mutual funds) at a minimum, which has historically averaged a 10-12% annual return (which is nothing to sneeze at - especially over a long period of time).  If you want to put a portion of it in single stocks, be smart about it and put a small percentage of your investments in a few stocks (spread it out in other words) - like no more than 20-25% in single stocks (with no more than [5%] in any one stock) and the rest in VTI/VOO.

    Best of luck, and again, congrats for putting yourself in a great financial position.
      
      

  • Investor · Amherst, NH · Member since 2017 · 42 posts · 20 votes
    4y

    It sounds like your burnt out, less than a financial problem and more on an lifestyle problem. Type A personalities have one speed, charge forward! Sounds like you have the assets in place to take a break and re evaluate. Take a little money and go visit the places your discussing. Just don't burn any bridges and keep your options open.Type A personalities don't usually do well in a retirement mode and you may find you get bored quickly. My grandfather told me his biggest mistake was retiring as young as he did (that was 65). Having been through it you have to do something to break the cycle. My way of doing that was jumping into Real estate investing several years ago but everyone needs to find there own way. Just my two cents. Good luck I'm sure you will find your way!

  • Rental Property Investor · Lehigh Valley, PA · Member since 2017 · 200 posts · 191 votes
    4y

    Congrats Jack, well done.  3M at 40 you're never going to retire brother.  You'll go nuts two weeks into.  A better way to look at it is that you now control 100% of your time. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Escondido, CA · Member since 2017 · 684 posts · 550 votes
    4y

    @Jack B. I agree with @Jay Hinrichs and @Allen L.

    My plan, which could be informative for you, has two parts based on the financial foundation you describe (which has similarities to mine):

    1. I am in the process of adding a few turnkey eco-friendly tiny houses in desirable locations (i.e. Belize/Panama, South America, Eastern Mediterranean) that each cost less than $200K, are managed as short term rentals, are new, and allow me to come and stay whenever I like.

    2. I plan on having residence in Spain or Portugal. Allen L stated the benefit of the medical system in Europe. You might know Coach Carson (check YouTube). He and his family will spend the next 12-15 months in Spain and did the research. The cost for health insurance for their family in Spain for 1 year is about the same as for 1 month in South Carolina (they are self-employed).

    So, selecting desirable locations that allow you to have fun, enjoy culture, and in your case, maybe also find the right partner could be your plan. I have my partner but the rest is actually my plan. 

    Living your passion will change your outlook, your mindset, and put smiles and enjoyment in your life. Besides, it will also keep you healthy.

  • Investor · Garwood, NJ · Member since 2018 · 66 posts · 66 votes
    4y

    Hey @Jack B. sorry to hear about the current challenges in your personal life, but it's great to hear you are working on taking control of that as much as possible to make changes that will make you happier :)

    I agree with @Mike Reynolds that it sounds like if you really want to be done with everything you should sell your properties except for the one you may want to live in..if you were going to buy another property I would focus on picking something that you would enjoy having, like a vacation home or two that you can use occasionally and AirBNB through a property manager the rest of the time. It sounds like you need to infuse more things into your life that make you happy, so maybe a vacation home might help with that. Just a thought.

    Besides that, have you considered passively investing in real estate syndications? If what you're looking for is 100% passive income without worrying about property management or needing to be in close proximity to the properties you are invested in - this could be a great option for you. Totally hands-off. No work required from you. This would allow you more time freedom to do things you like doing (or figure out what you like doing). To a few other people's points - you may get bored doing nothing, but that doesn't mean you have to stay in a job you despise in the meantime. Especially given the health scares you've experienced - I'm sure you feel strongly that life is about living, and tomorrow's not promised, so we should do our best to make the most of today. Although, if you decide you want to personally buy more properties and are getting loans on them, you may want to stay at your job until you do so because lenders like W2s.

    Let's say you decide to keep your current rentals, but you just took the $300K you were talking about investing into 2 more properties and put it into syndications instead, you could probably make 10% in cash flow from it (depending on the deals you get involved with), which would be $30K a year/$2500 a month...plus more from appreciation once they are sold, and you get tax write offs from depreciation the same way you do with rentals you personally own..sometimes on an even larger scale because of cost segs and bonus depreciation. You can use the write-offs from syndication against the returns you get from investing in them, and you can also use them against the other rental income you collect on your existing properties if you decide to keep them.

    We're all rooting for you!! Hope you keep us updated when you make your decision - would love to hear what route you decide to go in.

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