As a new investor, what was the biggest mistake you made ?

As a new investor, what was the biggest mistake you made ?

New York, NY · Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 47 votes

Hello Everyone,

As a new investor, what was the biggest mistake you made and what would you have done differently. I am opening the discussion for newbies such as myself to learn from the mistakes of others and avoid those same mistakes. I want to hear all about!

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Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
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trusting tenants and believing their BS stories

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  • Rental Property Investor · RVA · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    7y

    For me, paralysis by analysis and shiny object syndrome. Both prevented me from taking action early on. 

  • New York, NY · Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 47 votes
    7y

    @Taylor L. I have been warned about both habits, Will surely make sure to avoid both

  • Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
    Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    @Account Closed not insisting that my PM do regular inspections! New tenant or inherited tenant every 6 months first year, or longer if required. Every 12 months after that. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Durham, NC · Member since 2016 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    7y

    @Bijou Diaou. In a broad sense, investing in a turnkey property out of state was probably up there. It was a good learning experience but you have to understand there’s nothing about real estate that’s passive

  • New York, NY · Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 47 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Bjorn Ahlblad:

    @Account Closed not insisting that my PM do regular inspections! New tenant or inherited tenant every 6 months first year, or longer if required. Every 12 months after that. 

    Hello Bjorn, Just out of curiosity, Why was that such a big mistake?

  • Bjorn AhlbladPro Member
    Investor · Shelton, WA · Member since 2017 · 6k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    @Account Closed the place was completely trashed the teenage son was out of control and the single mom could not deal with him. Holes in ceiling, doors smashed, etc. Tenant move out in the middle of the night, son broke back in set off fireworks, got drunk and arrested. Long story short inspections are vital, make notes and take pics. We now self manage and video every unit before moving in a tenant, and again when they move out. We also screen inherited tenants as necessary. Thorough screening and no compromises is vital to sleeping well!

  • New York, NY · Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 47 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Bjorn Ahlblad:

    @Account Closed the place was completely trashed the teenage son was out of control and the single mom could not deal with him. Holes in ceiling, doors smashed, etc. Tenant move out in the middle of the night, son broke back in set off fireworks, got drunk and arrested. Long story short inspections are vital, make notes and take pics. We now self manage and video every unit before moving in a tenant, and again when they move out. We also screen inherited tenants as necessary. Thorough screening and no compromises is vital to sleeping well!

    Thank you Bjorn, For the shared story, Definitely will do. 

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    7y

    The worst mistake I made was trying to get the cheapest labor and it cost me alot

  • Rental Property Investor · Erie, PA · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 9k+ votes
    7y

    trusting tenants and believing their BS stories

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 31k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @John Thedford:

    The worst mistake I made was trying to get the cheapest labor and it cost me alot

    Everyone seems to learn this one the hard way, myself included.

  • Real Estate Broker · Cleveland Dayton Cincinnati Toledo Columbus & Akron, OH · Member since 2013 · 31k+ posts · 20k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Dennis M.:

    trusting tenants and believing their BS stories

     Another one I've been guilty of. Believe it or not I was not always a total savage. I savaged up real quick tho!

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2019 · 290 posts · 254 votes
    7y
    I bought a property several years ago before I knew about BP, or really anything at all about real estate investing. I thought rent covering the mortgage was great cash flow. It's worked out OK as I'm in a high appreciation area, but could have been better. I then proceeded to buy another property to live in and then eventually rent out years down the road. Moved on quicker than I thought, rent was $1K less than I thought I could get because I failed to do any research, and I can't sell it without taking a loss at this point....so I eat $1K each month praying for appreciation LOL. I actually run my numbers now....
  • Rental Property Investor · Springfield, MO · Member since 2017 · 266 posts · 312 votes
    7y

    For me it was not vetting the people working for me. My first agent was only interested in making a sale and sugar coated all the issues. My inspector must of known I was new to this and inspected a 1400 sqft property in less than 60 minutes and the inspection was about 1 page long. In spite of all my ignorance, I got some good renters (stayed 4 years) and I learned to do most of the repairs myself. I ended up making money but not without learning some hard lessons. 

  • Member since 2019 · 135 posts · 25 votes
    7y

    Let the PM manage all the rental properties at the beginning and it makes me feel I have less control on my own property. 

  • Member since 2019 · 56 posts · 49 votes
    7y

    Biggest mistake was giving discounted rent in exchange for putting off capex (flooring). The tenants stayed four years at $150 off market rent. Flooring cost  me 1k out of pocket. Nearly 6k in lost rents. 

    I was worried about finding a tenant even though history told me my house would never be empty more then two weeks

  • New York, NY · Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 47 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Caleb Heimsoth:

    @Bijou Diaou. In a broad sense, investing in a turnkey property out of state was probably up there. It was a good learning experience but you have to understand there’s nothing about real estate that’s passive

    Hello Caleb, I am actually looking to purchase a turnkey property out of state, If you do not mind can you elaborate on why it was a mistake.

  • New York, NY · Member since 2019 · 34 posts · 47 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Thomas Dougherty:

    Let the PM manage all the rental properties at the beginning and it makes me feel I have less control on my own property. 

    Hello Thomas, 

    If you can please elaborate on why giving the PM most of the control was an issue?

  • Investor · Vacaville, CA · Member since 2016 · 433 posts · 249 votes
    7y

    I feel like I could write a book... a long one.  Some key mistakes:

    - Focusing on gross rents without considering all costs of ownership; 

    - Looking at pro formas and thinking they could be true; 

    - Not paying enough attention at first to what my PM was doing; 

    That's a good start but I could come up with more.  Good luck!

  • Member since 2019 · 13 posts · 9 votes
    7y

    Never trust a tennant, always get EVERYTHING in writing, cover all bases when you wrote up your contracts.

  • Member since 2019 · 295 posts · 159 votes
    7y

    @Bijou Diaou Not using my contractor for every aspect of the job and using random stocks do the job takes longer and not as good of quality trying to save a few hundred dollars

  • Investor · Richmond, VA · Member since 2016 · 164 posts · 114 votes
    7y

    @Danielle Wolter this describes my first blunder perfectly. Hang in there. Only way to go from here is up.

  • Investor · Richmond, VA · Member since 2016 · 164 posts · 114 votes
    7y

    @John P. Can you elaborate on the pro forma comment?

  • Rental Property Investor · Toronto, Canada · Member since 2012 · 102 posts · 95 votes
    7y

    @Bijou Diaou As a Canadian, I started investing in US real estate in 2010 during the Great Recession. The Canadian Dollar was at parity with the US dollar and I had no competition. My biggest mistake was that I should’ve bought a lot more

  • Rental Property Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2017 · 439 posts · 578 votes
    7y

    @John Thedford

    Same.

    “Pay nice or pay twice” is a saying I live by now.

  • Real Estate Agent · Bayonne, NJ · Member since 2016 · 41 posts · 30 votes
    7y

    @Bijou Diaou First investment when I was 21, cost me tons in legal fees. The lawyers took advantage of me but I was young and intimidated so I paid. Just be sure you ask any type of professional you use the amount they are charging for each new situation that occurs. Second mistake in a later investment, slightly older but not much, was underestimating income taxes. Those killed me financially and emotionally. The sticker shock gave me PTSD which I feel every year when filing. Third mistake, (well not really but more of a lesson), was for a property I purchase last year. New construction in a C class neighborhood but I didn’t put a cover/lock on my water spigot so the homeless/drug dealers/addicts...I don’t know who...would walk into my alley and used my water at their leisure. The tenants told me about it or else I wouldn’t have known. Cameras would have helped too but it isn’t “that bad” of a neighborhood where my tenants requested them.

    Oh my favorite mistake...which I want to physically assault myself when I think about it...was also when I was younger and uneducated. Owned a condo unit and my neighbor in the next unit asked me to let her know if I wanted to sell. I kept the unit for about 9 months and just with life being the way it was at that time, I had it listed. The same neighbor bought it! Lost so much in commission payment. I cough it up to the young party life...but what an idiot I was for not slowing down and remembering small conversations in the hallway.

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