Notice of Default - Process and options

Notice of Default - Process and options

Lender · Pennysylvania · Member since 2018 · 140 posts · 68 votes

Hey Lenders,  I'm going through my first default process on a private loan for an investment property and I've done so with the assistance of an Attorney.  However, I’m curious how much of this process needs to be done with the Attorney and what I might be able to do myself. Presently, we (the Attorney) just sent out the Notice of Default and the Borrower has 10 days to cure. If not cured, it’s my understanding they are then in default. It’s at that time that I can start to charge default rate of interest and we can begin the foreclosure process. Given the legal challenges that can come with Foreclosure, I recognize the importance of having an Attorney involved for the Foreclosure process. However, I’m wondering if I need to engage an Attorney a borrower has missed a payment and it’s time to send a Notice of Default.

Must the Notice of Default (NoD) be a letter sent certified mail or would an email sent to the borrower notifying them of non-payment be considered sufficient as a Notice of Default. Does it have to come from an Attorney or is that simply the best way to ensure Notice was given and to minimize issues if Foreclosure is necessary?  What I’ve learned in my first experience is Notice must be given to start the process but I am not familiar with what is the minimum standard for the Notice of Default.   I assume state laws dictate and for reference if necessary, this is in Pennsylvania. 

Thanks in advance for any guidance or sharing of experience,

Steve

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Real Estate Agent · Tooele, Salt Lake City UT · Member since 2020 · 136 posts · 54 votes
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In Pennsylvania, an attorney isn’t required to send a Notice of Default (NoD), but it ensures compliance with laws. Certified mail is the best method, as emails usually don’t meet legal standards unless allowed by the loan agreement. The NoD must clearly state the missed payment, cure period, and consequences; consulting an attorney for your first default is a smart precaution.

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  • Real Estate Agent · Tooele, Salt Lake City UT · Member since 2020 · 136 posts · 54 votes
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    In Pennsylvania, an attorney isn’t required to send a Notice of Default (NoD), but it ensures compliance with laws. Certified mail is the best method, as emails usually don’t meet legal standards unless allowed by the loan agreement. The NoD must clearly state the missed payment, cure period, and consequences; consulting an attorney for your first default is a smart precaution.

  • Steve HiltabiddlePro Member
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    Lender · Pennysylvania · Member since 2018 · 140 posts · 68 votes
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    @Ryan Konen  Thanks for your reply.  I think your points cover my limited knowledge on this.   I've had the opportunity to see what the Attorney's version of the NoD looks like so if there was a situation where the borrower just needed their feet held to the fire and I didn't anticipate a need to go down the Foreclosure path, I feel comfortable sending an NoD letter myself, certified mail with noted stipulations to cure and outcome if not cured.  I know as the Lender, I always have the option to modify things but the NoD helps set the stage if the borrower doesn't act or respond in a way I feel is beneficial to getting the project across the finish line and me my capital back.     

    I'll see if I can track down a suitable NoD template that I can work with for those very specific instances.

    Thanks again,

    Steve

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
    1y
    Quote from @Steve Hiltabiddle:

    Hey Lenders,  I'm going through my first default process on a private loan for an investment property and I've done so with the assistance of an Attorney.  However, I’m curious how much of this process needs to be done with the Attorney and what I might be able to do myself. Presently, we (the Attorney) just sent out the Notice of Default and the Borrower has 10 days to cure. If not cured, it’s my understanding they are then in default. It’s at that time that I can start to charge default rate of interest and we can begin the foreclosure process. Given the legal challenges that can come with Foreclosure, I recognize the importance of having an Attorney involved for the Foreclosure process. However, I’m wondering if I need to engage an Attorney a borrower has missed a payment and it’s time to send a Notice of Default.

    Must the Notice of Default (NoD) be a letter sent certified mail or would an email sent to the borrower notifying them of non-payment be considered sufficient as a Notice of Default. Does it have to come from an Attorney or is that simply the best way to ensure Notice was given and to minimize issues if Foreclosure is necessary?  What I’ve learned in my first experience is Notice must be given to start the process but I am not familiar with what is the minimum standard for the Notice of Default.   I assume state laws dictate and for reference if necessary, this is in Pennsylvania. 

    Thanks in advance for any guidance or sharing of experience,

    Steve


     We always use an attorney even though one is not needed as it just makes sure we are compliant and not something that can be later contested. Saw one person who sent their own demand letters and screwed up the amount owed so the borrower waited up until day before FC, filed an injunction/ temporary restraining order and won and got the case thrown out and started all over again. That was over 10 months. So the $200 to send a demand letter which is a recoverable cost you can charge the borrower to me seems well worth the cost to outweigh the risk.

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  • Steve HiltabiddlePro Member
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    Lender · Pennysylvania · Member since 2018 · 140 posts · 68 votes
    1y

    @Chris Seveney   Point well taken.  I think my father might have called my thinking, "A penny wise, a pound foolish."   

    Thanks,

    Steve

  • Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    Penny-wise and pound-foolish, indeed @Steve Hiltabiddle.   Always listen to your dad. 

    Eviction and foreclosure are two common real estate processes where you always want to use a lawyer from beginning to end. These are not for the do-it-yourselfer. One false move on your part could jeopardize your entire claim and expose you to potential liability. This is not the place to cheap out over a few hundred dollars.

    Lots of lenders and virtually all borrowers never read their loan documents. If you haven’t already, now is the time to read yours. Assuming they were professionally prepared and compliant with state law, these should define your default interest terms – probably in your note. I also hope you got a personal guarantee and have advised your borrower that you intend to enforce it.

  • Steve HiltabiddlePro Member
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    Lender · Pennysylvania · Member since 2018 · 140 posts · 68 votes
    1y

    @Jeff S.  Another sound reminder to leverage a team of experts.  Thank you.

    I see a lot of posts from people asking how to start lending.  If one can learn anything from this thread it should be to use an Attorney knowledgeable in the laws of lending for the state you are lending in.  Make sure your loan documents are solid and hopefully you have a borrower where your loan documents stay filed away and they don't have to be referenced again.  

    However, in my case, you'll be thankful they are well drafted so that Attorney can then protect your capital through default and perhaps foreclosure.  

    These documents are the lifeline to your capital so as Jeff and @Chris Seveney have noted, don't skimp on the documents or the use of an Attorney to make use of the terms within those documents.

    I once heard Gary Keller of Keller Williams note that legal documents shouldn't be called 'agreements' but 'disagreements' because they only become valuable when there is a disagreement between 2 parties. 

    Thanks again for the great reminders.   I've contacted my attorney again for another request to file a Notice of Default.   

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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    Quote from @Steve Hiltabiddle:

    @Chris Seveney   Point well taken.  I think my father might have called my thinking, "A penny wise, a pound foolish."   

    Thanks,

    Steve

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  • Steve HiltabiddlePro Member
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    Lender · Pennysylvania · Member since 2018 · 140 posts · 68 votes
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    Quote from @Chris Seveney:
    Quote from @Steve Hiltabiddle:

    @Chris Seveney   Point well taken.  I think my father might have called my thinking, "A penny wise, a pound foolish."   

    Thanks,

    Steve

    if you ever need attorney referrals let me know I have a laundry list of attorneys

     Chris,  That's a very nice offer and I'll keep that in mind in the future.  Right now, I think I have some folks who can help me through these 2 I'm dealing with now.  However, if I feel they are coming up short, I'll reach out.    Again, the offer is greatly appreciated.    Have a great day.

  • Steven LeeBusiness Member
    Lender · 18021 Norwalk Blvd Suite 209. Artesia, CA 90701 · Member since 2015 · 488 posts · 43 votes
    1y

    Hi Steve,

    I'm sorry you're in the situation. What caused you to get into a NOD? I might be able to help you get out of the notice of default. I have investor who do bail out loans. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. Thank you!

  • Chris SeveneyBusiness Member
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    Investor · VA · Member since 2015 · 21k+ posts · 19k+ votes
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    Quote from @Steven Lee:

    Hi Steve,

    I'm sorry you're in the situation. What caused you to get into a NOD? I might be able to help you get out of the notice of default. I have investor who do bail out loans. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. Thank you!


     she is the lender not the borrower

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