Advanced Investing with VA Loan - What is the Reality?

Advanced Investing with VA Loan - What is the Reality?

Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

This is the actual text regarding the VA Entitlement Restoration:

"VA Pamphlet 26-7, Revised
Chapter 2: Veteran's Eligibility and Entitlement
Section 6. Restoration of Previously Used Entitlement
Sub b. Special Restoration Cases
In addition to the basic restoration criteria outlined above, a veteran may obtain restoration of the entitlement used on a prior VA loan under any of the following circumstances:
• the prior VA loan has been paid in full and the veteran has made application for a refinance loan to be secured by the same property which secured the prior VA loan. This includes refinancing situations in which the prior loan will be paid off at closing from a VA refinancing loan on the same property,
OR
• the prior VA loan has been paid in full, but the veteran has not disposed of the property securing the loan. The veteran may obtain restoration of the entitlement used on the prior loan in order to purchase a different property, one time only. Once such restoration is effected, the veteran’s COE will indicate the one-time restoration. It will also advise that any future restoration will require disposal of all property obtained with a VA loan."

From reading the first bullet, it sounds like as long as the VA loan has been refinanced out you can reclaim your entitlement and move on to the next purchase. Great! Reading the second bullet seems to indicate that as soon as you try to reclaim benefit from a property you had a VA loan on and paid off you trigger this one-time restoration and set yourself up for failure.

Does anyone have FIRST-HAND understanding of leveraging their VA loan as a product to continue investing? I am focusing here on complete entitlement restoration, not using the remaining entitlement.

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Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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YES!! You can reuse the VA loan. We did it twice at the same time. Here is a article I put together on how to do the VA.

The Veteran's Assistance loan or the VA Loan as it is generally called, is an amazing loan. We bought our first and fourth house using the VA loan (using the same loan). Over the years I have seen a lot of myths perpetuated and questions asked regarding this loan.

As a self-proclaimed empire builder, who is also a mortgage nerd who struggles to understand this awesome but complicated loan, I put together this guide. I hope this helps you not only have a better understanding about the loan itself, but also about the different benefits that you might not have realized it offered.

Reluctant Landlord’s Guide to the VA Loan

Eligible Parties:
While everyone always associates the VA loan as the loan for those who served in the military or veterans, there are eight parties that are eligible for the VA loan.

  1. Veterans.
  2. Current or former National Guard or Reserve member who has been activated Federal active service.
  3. Active Duty Service member.
  4. Current National Guard or Reserve member who has been Federal active service.
  5. Discharged member of the National Guard who has never been activated for Federal active service.
  6. Discharged member of the Selected Reserve who has never been activated for Federal active service.
  7. Surviving Spouse in Receipt of DIC (Dependency & Indemnity Compensation) benefits.
  8. Surviving Spouse and not receiving DIC (dependency & Indemnity Compensation) benefits.

You can find more information and how to prove your eligibility on the VA benefits websitefollow. The specific service requirements and time periods can be found herefollow.

Use
Unfortunately, the VA loan cannot be used for ANY type of purchase. Like many federally sponsored programs there are very specific requirements to what can be bought with a VA loan.

As defined by the VA, the loan can be used for five types of homes, all of which must be your personal home. The specific VA wording can be found herefollow.

  1. Buy a home or condominium unit in a VA approved project.
  2. Build a Home.
  3. Simultaneously purchase and improve a home.
  4. Improve a home by installing energy-related features or making energy efficient improvements.
  5. Buy a manufactured home and/or lot.

My Thoughts:

Condominiums – Personally, I will not buy a condominium. The VA, FHA and other government approved loans have very specific requirements regarding condominiums. At one point (not sure if it is still in play), complexes that had more than 30% that were rentals were not eligible for these programs.

Once these complexes were no longer eligible to meet these requirements these units sat longer and even lost value. To further exasperate the problem, many condo communities have or create rules regarding the number of rentals allowed or they forbid it all together. This creates a huge issue regarding an exit plan. This is why I don't buy condos and I check all HOA's very closely to make sure there are no laws against making my home a rental once I move out of the area.

Multi-plex – The VA allows you to buy a single family, duplex (2 units), triplex (3 units) and a quadplex (4 units). The key is that you have to live in one unit, however, you are still allowed to rent the other unit(s) out.

Eligibility
Once you know that you qualify, the next step is to figure out your eligibility. Unfortunately, it's not as simple as it sounds because it's based on your location. The lowest total amount is $417,000 for a single family. All the numbers after that are based on location and the number of times the loan has been used. The VA location list to check eligibility can be found herefollow.

The funding fee works is also based on your current location. For example, If you lived in Virginia Beach you would have $458,850. The amount changes based on your physical location.

Multiple Loans
The great thing about the new VA rules is not only are you given a set amount, but you can buy as many houses under the amount of the last local place. You entitlement includes the purchase price AND the funding fee (described below) of your location.

This is the Equation: Current Location Entitlement – Previous Entitlement(s) if you have multiple (Funding Fee included) = amount you have left.

Personally, we have bought two houses with the same loan. Our first house was bought in Virginia Beach. We paid $234,000 and after the funding fee we had used $239k. We then bought a $163k house in Hanford, CA, for $168k after financing. While these are off the top of my head, the point is you can totally buy multiple houses. The key is to make sure you have money left over from the first house, so you can use it again.

The location amount is based on your last amount. So currently, we have used up a little less than $417,000 so most locations we would move to would not have anything less. That being said there are a few places that have a top limit of closer to a million. In one of those locations we would be able to use the difference (approx. 500,000) to buy another house.

So just because you are "out" in one location in regards to your VA loan eligibility, does not mean you should not have your mortgage broker check your eligibility in the next place you go. It never hurts to ask, you could be missing out on an opportunity!

Financing Above Your VA Loan
The VA loan does allow you to finance above your VA loan amount. The key thing to note is anything above the VA funding amount requires a down payment of 25%. So if you go above your funding amount by 10,000 you will now owe a down payment of $2,500.

It important to check all the rates. The last time I checked, mortgage rates for the VA loan they were MUCH lower than many of the of the rates available. Even with the funding fee, and having a down payment amount, this might have a lower payment than another type of loan–ESPECIALLY if you qualify for the funding fee to be raised.

VA Funding Fee
The VA funding is the only downside to the VA loan and using it for multiple loans. The VA loan charges a funding fee for all their loans. The rates depends on a couple of different variables so certainly look at this chartfollow to figure out your funding fee.

Waiving of the Funding Fee
If you have a VA disability rating then you should definitely check out this article. I explain all the regulations and how all those fees/other expenses could be waived.

The VA loan is truly an amazing loan. There are so many nuances and great benefits. I highly recommend you find a great mortgage broker who can walk you through all the different possibilities. Did I miss anything regarding the VA loan? What has been your experience

Let me know if you have any questions. We are investors with 7 houses. My husband is active duty navy and we have used the VA loan twice. It is a great investment type.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Fayetteville, NC · Member since 2014 · 884 posts · 670 votes
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    @Bryan O. - What is the benefit of using VA for lending? The funding fees are really high and the rate isn't any better than conventional.

  • Puyallup, WA · Member since 2015 · 52 posts · 13 votes
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    This is a timely thread, as I am trying to learn as much as possible about the VA loan program right now. The funding fees for me would be 2.15% from what I understand, but the VA loan would still be a great option for me as a first time home buyer with a small savings account and less than $100K in income. I am still in school using my GI Bill, so I have not started working full time yet.

    Justin, For buyers like myself, the VA loan requires no down payment, low interest rates, and, most importantly, almost guarantees that I will be approved for the loan. I can afford to pay the funding fee in cash. 

    I'm almost done with school, and my wife has a great job, but we are currently renters. It would be great to be able to finance a rental property like a four-plex even if the positive cash flow was low. We could save the money we pay in rent right now and have our mortgage get paid down at the same time. Any extra cash would just be icing on the cake. 

    Over time, we could refinance - free up the VA loan for future use.. and possibly use it again. At that point, we might be able to get financed with a regular mortgage, though.

    I'm kind of just thinking out loud here, but that is the thought I'm currently entertaining and researching. I don't know for certain that we couldn't qualify for a regular mortgage without the VA loan, but I do know for certain that I don't have a significant down payment.

    Bryan, my former Platoon Sergeant began using the VA loan before he retired (which I didn't know was possible) to buy houses in Twentynine Palms, CA and live in them for a short while. He would't do full rehabs on them, but he fixed them up enough to rent, and refinanced without using the VA loan so that he could have his entitlement restored. He would get pre-approved for another VA mortgage and do it all over again once he found a renter (which isn't hard in the middle of a desert military town).

    From what I understand, he owns around ten properties in Southern California now, and he rents them all out. I do know that he doesn't do anything other than travel for pleasure right now. 

  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Justin Tahilramani

    @Greg Cooksey is right. Using the VA loan, I can get into a property with 0% down, and $0 down. I do not have to pay a funding fee, so it is quite literally infinite returns for each property bought that way. I would buy 1,000 properties if I could ;)

    Greg, are you in touch with your old Sergeant? I'd love it if you can verify that he was able to reuse the VA loan for each property. Perhaps he built equity in the first, then cash-out refinanced to fund the down payment on the rest of them.

  • Puyallup, WA · Member since 2015 · 52 posts · 13 votes
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    Bryan, how do you get around the funding fee? Do you have a service connected disability? I hope that's not too personal of a question. I still speak with him from time to time, I'll be sure to ask him as soon as I can. 

    Something else that the VA loan offers that is very appealing to me is the benefits it offers on rehab loans. From what I understand, a VA rehab loan does not require you to pay on the mortgage until the rehab is complete.

  • Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    YES!! You can reuse the VA loan. We did it twice at the same time. Here is a article I put together on how to do the VA.

    The Veteran's Assistance loan or the VA Loan as it is generally called, is an amazing loan. We bought our first and fourth house using the VA loan (using the same loan). Over the years I have seen a lot of myths perpetuated and questions asked regarding this loan.

    As a self-proclaimed empire builder, who is also a mortgage nerd who struggles to understand this awesome but complicated loan, I put together this guide. I hope this helps you not only have a better understanding about the loan itself, but also about the different benefits that you might not have realized it offered.

    Reluctant Landlord’s Guide to the VA Loan

    Eligible Parties:
    While everyone always associates the VA loan as the loan for those who served in the military or veterans, there are eight parties that are eligible for the VA loan.

    1. Veterans.
    2. Current or former National Guard or Reserve member who has been activated Federal active service.
    3. Active Duty Service member.
    4. Current National Guard or Reserve member who has been Federal active service.
    5. Discharged member of the National Guard who has never been activated for Federal active service.
    6. Discharged member of the Selected Reserve who has never been activated for Federal active service.
    7. Surviving Spouse in Receipt of DIC (Dependency & Indemnity Compensation) benefits.
    8. Surviving Spouse and not receiving DIC (dependency & Indemnity Compensation) benefits.

    You can find more information and how to prove your eligibility on the VA benefits websitefollow. The specific service requirements and time periods can be found herefollow.

    Use
    Unfortunately, the VA loan cannot be used for ANY type of purchase. Like many federally sponsored programs there are very specific requirements to what can be bought with a VA loan.

    As defined by the VA, the loan can be used for five types of homes, all of which must be your personal home. The specific VA wording can be found herefollow.

    1. Buy a home or condominium unit in a VA approved project.
    2. Build a Home.
    3. Simultaneously purchase and improve a home.
    4. Improve a home by installing energy-related features or making energy efficient improvements.
    5. Buy a manufactured home and/or lot.

    My Thoughts:

    Condominiums – Personally, I will not buy a condominium. The VA, FHA and other government approved loans have very specific requirements regarding condominiums. At one point (not sure if it is still in play), complexes that had more than 30% that were rentals were not eligible for these programs.

    Once these complexes were no longer eligible to meet these requirements these units sat longer and even lost value. To further exasperate the problem, many condo communities have or create rules regarding the number of rentals allowed or they forbid it all together. This creates a huge issue regarding an exit plan. This is why I don't buy condos and I check all HOA's very closely to make sure there are no laws against making my home a rental once I move out of the area.

    Multi-plex – The VA allows you to buy a single family, duplex (2 units), triplex (3 units) and a quadplex (4 units). The key is that you have to live in one unit, however, you are still allowed to rent the other unit(s) out.

    Eligibility
    Once you know that you qualify, the next step is to figure out your eligibility. Unfortunately, it's not as simple as it sounds because it's based on your location. The lowest total amount is $417,000 for a single family. All the numbers after that are based on location and the number of times the loan has been used. The VA location list to check eligibility can be found herefollow.

    The funding fee works is also based on your current location. For example, If you lived in Virginia Beach you would have $458,850. The amount changes based on your physical location.

    Multiple Loans
    The great thing about the new VA rules is not only are you given a set amount, but you can buy as many houses under the amount of the last local place. You entitlement includes the purchase price AND the funding fee (described below) of your location.

    This is the Equation: Current Location Entitlement – Previous Entitlement(s) if you have multiple (Funding Fee included) = amount you have left.

    Personally, we have bought two houses with the same loan. Our first house was bought in Virginia Beach. We paid $234,000 and after the funding fee we had used $239k. We then bought a $163k house in Hanford, CA, for $168k after financing. While these are off the top of my head, the point is you can totally buy multiple houses. The key is to make sure you have money left over from the first house, so you can use it again.

    The location amount is based on your last amount. So currently, we have used up a little less than $417,000 so most locations we would move to would not have anything less. That being said there are a few places that have a top limit of closer to a million. In one of those locations we would be able to use the difference (approx. 500,000) to buy another house.

    So just because you are "out" in one location in regards to your VA loan eligibility, does not mean you should not have your mortgage broker check your eligibility in the next place you go. It never hurts to ask, you could be missing out on an opportunity!

    Financing Above Your VA Loan
    The VA loan does allow you to finance above your VA loan amount. The key thing to note is anything above the VA funding amount requires a down payment of 25%. So if you go above your funding amount by 10,000 you will now owe a down payment of $2,500.

    It important to check all the rates. The last time I checked, mortgage rates for the VA loan they were MUCH lower than many of the of the rates available. Even with the funding fee, and having a down payment amount, this might have a lower payment than another type of loan–ESPECIALLY if you qualify for the funding fee to be raised.

    VA Funding Fee
    The VA funding is the only downside to the VA loan and using it for multiple loans. The VA loan charges a funding fee for all their loans. The rates depends on a couple of different variables so certainly look at this chartfollow to figure out your funding fee.

    Waiving of the Funding Fee
    If you have a VA disability rating then you should definitely check out this article. I explain all the regulations and how all those fees/other expenses could be waived.

    The VA loan is truly an amazing loan. There are so many nuances and great benefits. I highly recommend you find a great mortgage broker who can walk you through all the different possibilities. Did I miss anything regarding the VA loan? What has been your experience

    Let me know if you have any questions. We are investors with 7 houses. My husband is active duty navy and we have used the VA loan twice. It is a great investment type.

  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Greg Cooksey Correct. I have 10%. If you get the chance to ask that would be great.

    @Elizabeth Colegrove I completely forgot you were building your distance empire! Great podcast by the way :)  Thank you for the great summary article. What I'm looking for is reclaiming the full entitlement to use again. I understand that you can use the remaining entitlement for another purchase, but in this area I would be expecting to spend $400k-$450k for a single property. Ultimately, the question is if I can refinance conventional and be ready to go with full entitlement again. Have you had any experience with that?

  • Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Bryan yes it's possible but I have not done it. Most brokers know how to resubmit the paperwork. Don't forget unless you are veteran with a disability rating the funding fee goes way up to 3% I believe. Personally I keep my va loans and just use the 5% conventional loans. Yes there Pmi but for a slightly higher rate it goes away. Just thoughts 

    Good luck

  • Upen PatelPro Member
    Lender · Nationwide Lender · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 814 votes
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    @Bryan O. You can refinance the property away from your VA loan to restore your entitlement. The issue comes when you want to keep the VA loan and have a life even to get approval from VA for a 2nd loan within the area.

    Upen Patel
    Mortgage Banker
  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Hi @Upen Patel. Thanks for joining the discussion. So if you refinance out, then you can use your full entitlement again, but if you want to keep the VA loan on the first, then you need to have reasoning to use the remaining entitlement in the same area? I assume that means things like moving for work, family size grew, etc.

  • Upen PatelPro Member
    Lender · Nationwide Lender · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 814 votes
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    Originally posted by @Bryan O.:

    Hi @Upen Patel. Thanks for joining the discussion. So if you refinance out, then you can use your full entitlement again, but if you want to keep the VA loan on the first, then you need to have reasoning to use the remaining entitlement in the same area? I assume that means things like moving for work, family size grew, etc.

    That is correct. The file has to be send to the local VA loan center for pre-approval. VA loans are for primary homes, so they don't folks to use it as an investment vehicle. If the reason is valid then they usually approve.

    Another aspect to keep in mind is that you don't have to free up the entitlement if you have left over entitlement and the VA gives you an approval. The benefit is that VA will allow you to use the rental income to of set the mortgage payment (even if you are not a qualified landlord). And you can use VA IRRRL refi on the investment in the future (assuming it passes IRRRL requirements).

    Hope this is helpful.

  • Investor · Eastlake, OH · Member since 2015 · 174 posts · 85 votes
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    @Elizabeth Colegrove Quick Question. I have heard so many times that I could re use my VA loan. When I attempted last time I received from the VA a form that said I had zero entitlement, and the lender said no and wouldn't move forward with it. Originally I purchased a SFR in Alaska (higher entitlement) and then Refinanced wiht the VA refi, is that where I used up more of my entitlement? We will be trasnferrign again next year and would like to do an Owner occupied BRRR. Thanks for posting

  • Real Estate Broker · Anchorage, AK · Member since 2015 · 170 posts · 46 votes
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    Originally posted by @Joel W.:

    @Elizabeth Colegrove Quick Question. I have heard so many times that I could re use my VA loan. When I attempted last time I received from the VA a form that said I had zero entitlement, and the lender said no and wouldn't move forward with it. Originally I purchased a SFR in Alaska (higher entitlement) and then Refinanced wiht the VA refi, is that where I used up more of my entitlement? We will be trasnferrign again next year and would like to do an Owner occupied BRRR. Thanks for posting

    You have a maximum loan limit for the VA loan of $625,500 I believe.

    The VA also doesn't want you to use the loan to "build your portfolio." You either need to refi out of your VA loan and go conventional, or make your case to lender under writing that you are getting a fourplex that will better your conditions in life. Usually, if you go from a 2 bed 1 bath SFH to a 3 bed 1.5 bath fourplex, it can be done.

  • Rental Property Investor · Fayetteville, NC · Member since 2014 · 884 posts · 670 votes
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    Originally posted by @Elizabeth Colegrove:

    Bryan yes it's possible but I have not done it. Most brokers know how to resubmit the paperwork. Don't forget unless you are veteran with a disability rating the funding fee goes way up to 3% I believe. Personally I keep my va loans and just use the 5% conventional loans. Yes there Pmi but for a slightly higher rate it goes away. Just thoughts 

    Good luck

    Elizabeth is correct - there is no benefit to using VA loans over and over - especially when you consider the funding fee. Just do the 5% down on a conventional and be done with it. If you don't have ANY money to put into a house - you probably should not be buying.

  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Hi @Justin Tahilramani. Have you identified 5% loan products that allow you to purchase a 4-unit property? I haven't. The ones I found are for SFR only. Also, there is a huge benefit to using VA loans over and over again. If you have a service-connected disability (10% or higher) the funding fee is waived. That means that if I put $0 into buying a 4-plex, I have that extra money in my account ($20,000 in my area if you look at a 5% down), plus a higher cash flow because of no PMI. This is a huge advantage. That makes me $20k+ closer to another deal that I have to put 20% down on.

    If you use this strategy for value-add properties you may be able to do this every couple of years (assumes being able to add 20% equity over 2 years). Adding 2 doors per year for free disagrees with your "no benefit to using VA loans over and over" logic, and may be a strategy that can launch someone into greater success.

  • Investor · Midlothian, VA · Member since 2015 · 980 posts · 822 votes
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    Bryan,

    I bought a townhouse in 2001 with a VA Loan. Because of the appreciation I was able to refinance it into a conventional and buy another townhouse in the same area in 2004. I still own both properties. My intent was to continue with that strategy to infinity but you will quickly find that it is very difficult to make the numbers work when you are doing 100% financing. Thus I had to switch to a different strategy. Realistically, properties do not appreciate fast enough for you to refinance out of the VA...unless you are in one of the largest runups in history.

    To answer your original question, though, I read that the same way that you do. You will not be allowed to build your portfolio through a BRRRR strategy using VA loans. They must have changed it because that is exactly what people were doing in the 2000's. I personally was never aware of that clause so it may have always been there. Like I mentioned above though, you should be able to get started with the VA, that's what I did. And if you play your cards right, you could acquire 8+ doors even with the limitations.

    I completely disagree with Justin. There is definitely benefit to reusing the VA over and over if you are able. The funding fee is just another cost of capital that you must factor in. But if the numbers work and you don't have to put any of your own money into it, why wouldn't you do that? Why should you only invest if you can come up with 5% down. That seems pretty arbitrary to me. Why not set the limit at 20% down, 25%, 30%? No, take advantage of the benefits available to you and get started, you earned them. And thank you for your service.

    Ed

  • Rental Property Investor · Fayetteville, NC · Member since 2014 · 884 posts · 670 votes
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    @Bryan O.- Do you have a service related disability? If so - then it makes complete sense. Sorry if I missed that....

  • Specialist · Lakewood, CO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Thanks @Edward B. for the information. Just to be clear, your second property was not bought using the "secondary" entitlement, but a fully entitled VA loan? You're right, that kind of appreciation is rare, which is why this strategy would require value-add properties (usually listed as needing "a little TLC" ;)

    @Justin Tahilramani I met an investor yesterday at the local BP meetup that said he was able to find 5% down loans for 2-4 unit properties but he had to engage the local bank/credit unions to find them. So it looks like that is another tool to stick in the tool belt.

  • Investor · Midlothian, VA · Member since 2015 · 980 posts · 822 votes
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    @Bryan O.

    Correct, I completely refinanced out of the VA loan, thereby allowing me to use the whole entitlement again. I was not even aware of the secondary entitlement until recently but I doubt that it will be of any benefit to me now. I am beyond house hacking and when I tried to use my wife's VA with my income in 2010 to house hack, Wells Fargo could not make it happen. They were slow rolling the dickens out of us and I wound up having to put 30% down with a conventional. I was only willing to do that because the new bank turned right around and gave me a HELOC at 90% LTV so that I was still able to access 20% of that equity.

  • Miami, FL · Member since 2015 · 100 posts · 34 votes
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    @Elizabeth Colegrove

    Hopefully you have some time to answer this question, as you seem very knowledgeable in the VA side of things.

    Occupancy requirements say that you must "intend" to live in the residence and I couldn't find a specified amount of time on an "official" site or document although people tend to assume it's 12 months.

    My question is, suppose I purchased a home using my VA loan, what do I need to provide as proof of "intent" to live in the new residence, and also, I haven't seen anything that says you can't resell the home within any specified time frame.

    So... I could purchase a home (that fulfills VA requirements). "Live" in it, update it or do whatever repairs and changes I may feel necessary, and then sell it? I've read that there is no pre-payment fees as well.

    Would this be a hack of some sort to use the VA loan for a flip? I'm just curious what is needed for proof of intent to live in the new residence as well.

  • Hanford, CA · Member since 2013 · 5k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    Originally posted by @Joshua Pavao:

    @Elizabeth Colegrove

    Hopefully you have some time to answer this question, as you seem very knowledgeable in the VA side of things.

    Occupancy requirements say that you must "intend" to live in the residence and I couldn't find a specified amount of time on an "official" site or document although people tend to assume it's 12 months.

    I have been told it is 12 months unless you cannot control the situation i.e. orders, etc.. So if you move into a house and than are given order 6 months later, you are golden as long as those written orders didn't exist prior. IE orders stating from Jan to July would be problematic. (again that is what I have been told) but Jan to .... is fine as long as your intention is a year.

    My question is, suppose I purchased a home using my VA loan, what do I need to provide as proof of "intent" to live in the new residence, and also, I haven't seen anything that says you can't resell the home within any specified time frame.

    We did a slow fixer. Move in the house fix it up and than rent it out. We know people who has sold it. 2 years is the golden rule for capital gains for those who do slow fixes. Otherwise you have to pay on the profit. 

    We got started with a VA loan. It let us get into a foreclosure and use our money to fix it up. We decided to rent it out because it provided more value to us that way. That being said we know people who sell at the end of the duty station.

    PS. Not a lawyer or anything but an investor who has spent way to much time in brokers offices. So take my answers with a grain of salt. See above for my thoughts, experienced and what I have been told third hand. lol

    Hoep that helps

  • Realtor · Oakland, CA and a Real Estate Investor with Multi-Family Units and a Self Storage Facility · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
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    It's interesting how the VA Loan works....I used it to buy a duplex in 2016 in Oakland, Ca. I get something in the mail at least once a week from different banks offering to re-do my VA Loan, etc.

    I'm in a position where I would LOVE to refi out of the VA Loan on the place I bought in 2016 without paying PMI (I don't pay PMI now, so why start?) AND use the VA Loan again to buy another duplex, for zero down and no PMI.

  • Rental Property Investor · Los Angeles CA · Member since 2017 · 100 posts · 37 votes
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    @Justin Tahilramani rates are usually better, funding fee is waived based on disability, and no downpayment

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