self directed IRA

self directed IRA

Morristown, NJ · Member since 2013 · 1 post · 0 votes

I am considering a self directed IRA. Has anyone worked with BuyPD, Am Estate and Trust and Accuplan? I also talked to IRA Financial Group in NY but they do not work as custodians'. Is a custodian required?

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Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
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Tawnya,

it looks that you work as a real estate agent (based on your profile description), and while self directed IRA will allow you to use your retirement funds to invest in real estate and other non-traditional investments, I want to make sure that you are aware of another option that is available to you: Self-Directed Solo 401k. If you are self-employed you would qualify for this option and there are several major advantages of using Solo 401k over self directed IRA. Here are few:

  • No need for a custodian (save $$ on transaction and asset based fees)
  • Checkbook control - you don't need to ask custodian consent to make the investment, simply write the check
  • Roth sub-account - in essence you can have two accounts in one: regular pre-tax as well as Roth after tax
  • High contribution limits up to $56,500 per year, this is nearly 10 times more than an IRA. This feature makes Solo 401k great tax sheltering vehicle.
  • Participant loan feature - give you the ability to access cash up to $50K in your account at any time for any reason
  • Exempt form UBTI tax on leveraged real estate

There are few other, but I think the above make the point. There is additional info available online if you wish to learn more.

I think it is very important to make the informed decision (knowing all your options). Wish you the best!

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  • Software Entrepreneur · Bellevue, WA · Member since 2015 · 27 posts · 14 votes
    11y

    Hello Tawnya:

    I too am looking at IRA Financial Group for a solo 401k and/or a self directed IRA.

    Do you or anyone else have any experience using IRA Financial Group? Any opinions about other available providers?

    Thanks, Chuck

  • Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2016 · 1 post · 0 votes
    10y

    I have an account with AET, and i just learned that every withdrawal you make (as in monthly retirement checks) cost $35. Assume you withdraw $1,000 per month - you pay 3.5% per month for the privilege of getting back the retirement money you saved in your IRA.

  • Professional · Carlsbad, CA · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Ken Elder

    That is pretty expensive. Have you considered the Checkbook IRA or Solo 401k?

  • Justin WindhamPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    10y

    @Ken Elder There are several Solo 401k providers who can set you up for a reasonable fee and pretty small annual fee with no transaction or asset based fees being charged.

    @Chuck Van Court There are a few self directed firms that regularly participate here on BP. I don't recall having seen IRA Financial Group among them. Perhaps someone else can provide any experience they may have had with them.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Lithia Springs, GA · Member since 2017 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Hello Tawnya,  

    I was reading your thread on self directed IRA and just curious as to which direction did you go? I'm looking to rollover a retirement account and I am leaning toward self directed solo 401K. I'm not sure I understand the need to eliminate a custodian. How is it classified as a retirement account? That's where I need help.

  • Professional · Carlsbad, CA · Member since 2012 · 12k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Angela R. Brown

    A solo 401k is for the self-employed. Are you self-employed as defined in the following?

    https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/self-employed-individuals-tax-center

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Lithia Springs, GA · Member since 2017 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Yes, I am building my client base to qualify and increase my self employment status.

  • Justin WindhamPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Angela R. Brown

    Because of the many benefits the Solo 401k provides beyond the IRA, most go with the 401k as long as they are eligible. If you have a client base to build, you are likely eligible with your current self-employment activity as long as you do not have employees.

  • Residential Investor · Allentown, PA · Member since 2012 · 96 posts · 29 votes
    9y

    @Daniel Guillermo are you still happy with IRA trust services?

  • Investor · Long Island, NY · Member since 2010 · 99 posts · 23 votes
    9y

    Yes, I've had my IRA open with them for a while now and I have no complaints.

    They get back to me quickly and all fees are laid out upfront so there are no surprises.

  • Real Estate Investor · Union, NJ · Member since 2016 · 30 posts · 6 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Daniel Guillermo:

    Yes, I've had my IRA open with them for a while now and I have no complaints.

    They get back to me quickly and all fees are laid out upfront so there are no surprises.

    Hi Daniel - Is the SDIRA you used named IRA Services Trust Company? Just want to make sure i'm contacting the right company.

    Julian 

  • Investor · Long Island, NY · Member since 2010 · 99 posts · 23 votes
    8y

    yes, thats it.

  • Residential Real Estate Broker · San Jose, CA · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    8y

    Hi, how much does it cost to start and maintain a self directed 401k account? 

  • Solo 401k Expert · Anaheim Hills, CA · Member since 2012 · 18k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    8y

    @Helen Chong, the cost to maintain self-directed 401k is depends on the type of plan you have. If you are using services of a custodian the fee structure may have transaction and asset based fees, so your fee will depend on the size of your account, number of assets and number of transactions you do in a given year. 

    However, custodian is not required for the 401k plan and you can opt for truly self-directed Solo 401k plan. In this case there are no transaction or asset-based fees and the custodian can be eliminated completely. You will need a company to provide you with the IRS-compliant plan documents and ongoing support for a nominal yearly fee. This option give you most control and flexibility. 

  • Justin WindhamPro Member
    Banker · Nationwide · Member since 2015 · 4k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Helen Chong

    Fees for checkbook control Solo 401k plans with reputable companies offering full support start at about $500 for setup and $100 per year ongoing.

  • Retirement Accounts Attorney · Southfield, MI · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Helen Chong

    Fees range from $250 to $1,500. Annually, they range from Zero to $1,000. As you can see, they are all over the map. Having been in this industry for a number of years, I highly recommend calling around and feeling the different providers out.

  • Rental Property Investor · Springfield, MO · Member since 2017 · 266 posts · 312 votes
    8y

    I have used IRA Trust Services for over 5 years and am very happy with them. I used the SDIRA to buy notes and do some small hard money lending.

  • Rental Property Investor · Cypress, CA · Member since 2016 · 6 posts · 2 votes
    8y
    Thread with links to good resources. Thank you all for strating and your contribution to this link.
  • Retirement Accounts Attorney · Southfield, MI · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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    @Viji M.

    I am glad it was a good resource for you.

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