Tax benefit on mortgage free rental property?

Tax benefit on mortgage free rental property?

Union City, NJ · Member since 2018 · 22 posts · 10 votes

Hi BP community!

I am currently living in a 1 bedroom condo. Mortgage is almost paid off. Husband and I plan to buy bigger place and rent out this 1 bedroom condo. I heard if there is montage on rental property, you offset with rent income and mortgage expense. If mortgage is paid off and rented out, rent income will be reported 100%? Is there other way to reduce tax on rental property?

Thank you!

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Rental Property Investor · Everywhere, USA · Member since 2012 · 689 posts · 525 votes
8y

@Soomin Kim - yes you can get a mortgage after you pay it off. You can also refinance your current mortgage which is almost paid off and get "cash out".

If you go the route of getting a mortgage, refinance while you still own it as a "owner occupied" loan has better terms than a "non owner occupied" or "investment property" loan.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Everywhere, USA · Member since 2012 · 689 posts · 525 votes
    8y

    Hi @Soomin Kim - You can still deduct direct expenses for the property like HOA dues, utilities you pay, taxes, depreciation, etc. You can also talk with your accountant about writing off other business related expenses like mileage, cell phone, printing, postage, etc..

    You just won't have the mortgage interest to write off, but the upside is it means you have more cash flow. Not necessarily a bad thing.

    One other thought is, depending on your goals, you could look at getting a mortgage on the condo then using the equity you pull out to leverage buying another investment property. But this could be counter to a completely debt free strategy you might have.

  • New to Real Estate · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2017 · 102 posts · 74 votes
    8y

    @Soomin Kim

    "Mortgage Expense" as you are referring to is broken up into 2 parts: principal and interest. Because the principal payments are actually just paying back money you borrowed, the IRS doesn't see this as an expense.

    However, the "interest" portion of your mortgage is a deductible expense on a rental.

    Other than mortgage interest, there are plenty of expenses to offset income. For instance:

    1) HOA Fees

    2) Insurance on the property

    3) Mileage on trips to the property

    4) Repairs

    5) Property Taxes

    6) Depreciation

    As far as depreciation, I'd recommend getting someone with real estate experience to prepare your taxes the first year after you convert your property into a rental. The reason is because depreciation is based on the basis (value) of the property. Determining the basis, which may include improvements, among other items, will impact your depreciation expense for years, so it's important to get right the first time.

    Hope this helps!

  • Union City, NJ · Member since 2018 · 22 posts · 10 votes
    8y

    Thank you @Andrew Kerr and @Alan Rohrer for quick responses!

    I can get mortgage on condo again after pay it off?

    How depreciation work if property value goes up in few years after I convert it to rental?

  • New to Real Estate · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2017 · 102 posts · 74 votes
    8y

    @Soomin Kim

    I'll let @Andrew Kerr talk you through the details of a cash out refinance.

    As far as depreciation- on the day you convert to a rental, the depreciation is the LOWER of:

    1) The Fair Market Value of the property (it's value on the market)

    2) Your adjusted basis in the property (basically what you paid for it + improvements + original closing costs). This is the item I suggested getting a tax preparer for.

    The increase in property value after you convert to a rental will not impact depreciation, as depreciation is determined by "basis" which doesn't fluctuate with property values.

  • Rental Property Investor · Everywhere, USA · Member since 2012 · 689 posts · 525 votes
    8y

    @Soomin Kim - yes you can get a mortgage after you pay it off. You can also refinance your current mortgage which is almost paid off and get "cash out".

    If you go the route of getting a mortgage, refinance while you still own it as a "owner occupied" loan has better terms than a "non owner occupied" or "investment property" loan.

  • Union City, NJ · Member since 2018 · 22 posts · 10 votes
    8y

    Thank you so much @Andrew Kerr and @Alan Rohrer. It definitely helps!

  • Carl FischerPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Ambler, PA · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Soomin Kim

    I like the refinance while rates are low at primary residence or owner occupied  rates as @Alan Rohrer and @Andrew Kerr are suggesting. Also having the rental mortgaged is good asset protection as well. 

  • Union City, NJ · Member since 2018 · 22 posts · 10 votes
    8y

    @Carl Fischer Why having mortgage on rental property a good asset protection? Thank you!

  • Carl FischerPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Ambler, PA · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Soomin Kim

    Would you rather a mortgaged property or a free and clear property? How do the lawyers think? They see equity or debt and then decide if they take the case. 

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