Rental Arbitrage - Apartment - Disney Area

Rental Arbitrage - Apartment - Disney Area

Member since 2022 · 62 posts · 16 votes

Hi,


i'd like to do Rental Arbitrage for an STR in the Disney area (Davenport, Champions Gate, etc.) I'd like to start with a 1/2 bedroom apartment rented under a corporate lease. Do you know of any apartment complexes in these areas that allow corporate leases/STR? I will be calling the offices to inquire, but I thought perhaps you may already know of places that allow it and would save me time. Thank you.

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Ryan MoyerBusiness Member
Property Manager · Orlando Kissimmee Davenport Salt Lake City, Park City · Member since 2019 · 996 posts · 1k+ votes
4y

In practice "corporate lease" is more just a term that STR arbitragers use to pitch their idea to landlords to try and get an agreement to be able to sublet their place without using the term "airbnb" or "short term rental" in the sales pitch. It's a way to make it sound a little more classy to the landlord. I think it's kind of silly, both because it's misleading, and because it's unnecessary (the better idea is to just convince the landlord why short term rentals are a good idea for them), but it works for a lot of people.

Ultimately this isn't a good place to find info on arbitrage.  It's a legitimate business model but this is more of a real estate investing forum than a business forum and most of the folks here have an irrational hatred for it.  Even further, those of us that don't dislike it don't really have any experience with it (we're here as real estate investors) so any info we're providing is just guessing and probably less helpful than what you'll find in arbitrage groups on Facebook, etc.

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  • Member since 2022 · 62 posts · 16 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Michael Baum:

    Hey @Colby Burt, I am one of the irrational dislikers of arbitrage for the most part. My biggest problem is with the people who want to do it. Not the people exactly, but they almost always have nearly zero capital. They want to get started and arbitrage looks like a way to get the ball rolling. What most of us here tell people is that the risk is quite high for low income people to get started with.

    The biggest problem is the area IMHO. I have looked into buying a place in the general area where you are looking. So far I haven't seen anything that will cashflow at the current market values. At least, something I can afford. You can get great $$$ on a 1.5m 8/9 place fully remodeled with all theme rooms.

    There are several 2/2 condos for sale. They average about $280k give or take in the Champions Gate and surrounding area. The nightly rates for those types of condos are under $100 a night. Sometimes quite a bit under. You have 22k in mortgage (10% down second home on 280k). Even with 100% occupancy that is 35k gross per year at $95 a night. No one is getting 100% occupancy on those units. Closer to 50% that I can see. It is a loser right out of the gate IMHO.

    And if you do manage to get someone to allow a sublease for a vacation rental (stop calling it AirBNB as that is just a platform), you will pay above market rates for your leases if the owner is smart. If things so south, you could lose a lot more than you could gain.

    Try not to be offended by others responses. We get asked this question at least 5x a week. It gets a little trying after a while. Please do a search and you will find a lot of posts on this subject. There is a lot of data to peruse.

    Hey Michael,

    I’ll Connect with you via private message.  Thanks for your reply  

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