Investing In Blue Ridge/Ellijay - Worth it??

Investing In Blue Ridge/Ellijay - Worth it??

Rental Property Investor · Suwanee, GA · Member since 2022 · 48 posts · 38 votes

Hi All,

There has been alot of discussion on Facebook pages, message boards, and popular podcasts about the saturation of the market in the Blue Ridge area and warning investors to stay away.  First, I will say that the market is definitely saturated, and you need to be very savvy with your investment, but in my experience the area is not as dead as some may claim.  My wife and I own three in the Blue Ridge area, and co-host another two.  All have been successful in their own ways (I'll share details on each below), but it is definitely not a passive market, so If you can't invest the time in marketing, I'd imagine it would be difficult to get the returns. 

What we've noticed is that the Blue Ridge/Ellijay renter desires a much more upscale experience.  No longer can you buy a cabin in the woods and expect it to rent.  It even seems that just having a view or being on water doesn't necessarily guarantee results--it helps, but you need other amenities to differentiate yourself.  The new, modern rustic houses seem to do very well, especially if it has a view or on water.  We've also noticed that the three bedroom houses seem not to rent as well.  Maybe they are too big or out of the price range for one family, or too small for two families, but we've spoken with a number of owners in the area that have struggled in that size.  It's also the most common bed/bath count, so there's ALOT more competition.  Right now the 2/1 or 2/2 cabins are doing very well, but they need modern updates.  If you can get a renovated 2/2 with a view at decent price, it will definitely do well. This size tends to be more last minute bookings, but they fill up.  The other successful rentals appear to be in the 4+ bedroom range.  The bigger and more beds the better.  Even at peak rates these can be affordable enough for multiple families to pitch in and afford.  Still, you need something that stands out, not just a pool table and outdoor fire pit.

Here are our listings, I'll try to provide as much info as I can:

Relax and Enjoy the View -
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/5...
Purchased in June 2021 - $525,000.  Renovation and furnishing cost: $60,000

2022 Gross: $117k

2023 Gross YTD: $53k

Looking at these numbers, it appears this one isn't doing well this year, but there's context.  We did a major bathroom renovation in February and had it closed most of the month.  We also decided to put it on the market in May to 1031 to a larger property we identified. We closed our calendar and stopped marketing because we didn't want to deal with transfer bookings (which was definitely a mistake), so summer took a while to fill in.  However, after dedicated marketing, we ended up with higher gross revenues in June and July than 2022.  Now we are looking to hold and make some more updates to modernize and keep up with the trends in the area.

The Boujee Buffalo -

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/615272595622105553?guests=1&adults=1&s=2&unique_share_id=9647bcf1-40eb-4d28-b194-faf22b81e336

Purchased in October 2021 - $649,000.  Furnishing cost: $55,000

2022 Gross: $146k

2023 Gross YTD: $135k

This one sat on the market for months before we looked at it.  Its about 25-30 minutes from town which may have kept buyers away, but we couldn't pass on the uniqueness of the huge finished garage.  Turning that into an awesome arcade has definitely differentiated it, and it will well surpass our 2022 number.

Play All Day Retreat -

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/742574515648264600?guests=1&adults=1&s=2&unique_share_id=12ac0627-6588-4def-88ab-5ca7e03e39fb

Purchased September 2022 - $745,000.  Renovation and Furnishing cost: $155,000

2022 Gross: $36k (only late November and December)

2023 Gross YTD: $183k

This was another that sat on the market for months at the height of the frenzy.  We think because it doesn't look like a standard cabin it was passed over, but this thing is a rental machine.  We did have to invest alot to finish the bunkroom above the garage and the theater room, but this thing is a renal machine.  Having the pool in this market is huge.

Vaughn Springs (Co-host) -
https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/889630049189701125?guests=1&adults=8&s=2&unique_share_id=c7e216c4-6085-4677-b8e8-9940c09a2fce

Purchased April 2023 as new build - $1,085,000.  Furnishing cost: $55,000

2023 Gross YTD: $81k (just through Sept.)

This is a prime example of the type of property that is killing it in BR right now.  We expect that this will gross at least $200k in a full year of service.  It doesn't have views, but the pool is such a huge draw.  It's hard to find 18-20% gross of purchase price in ANY market right now.

Rustic Hideaway (Co-host) - https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/839040993900203407?guests=1&adults=1&s=2&unique_share_id=b63bf7c0-af72-4a6b-ba16-5d940fa350d6
Purchased in April 2023 - $475,000 completely turnkey, put in service Mid-May

2023 Gross YTD: $13k (anticipated revenue of $55k for full year)

This is a good example of properties that will cash flow a little without investing too much.  This 2/2 was actually a flip that we did and sold to another investor.  We are helping them get started and they are taking over hosting themselves.  While the price per square foot is higher on these properties, they say consistently booked with very little expenses.  

Obviously, we got in at the right time with a couple of our properties, but they would still be worth it at today's prices.  The point of this post is not to brag on our successes or to bring down others who might be struggling.  I just hope to bust some myths about the current state of the market in BR/Ellijay.  I truly think that if you have some vision and can bring something unique, you can be successful.  We are certainly willing to help provide more insight or advice any way we can.

I'd be very interested to hear others' experience, and if you haven't cash flowed as well as you'd hoped, maybe this community can help.  

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Ryan MoyerBusiness Member
Property Manager · Orlando Kissimmee Davenport Salt Lake City, Park City · Member since 2019 · 993 posts · 1k+ votes
3y

Appreciate you sharing actual numbers, that's awesome!

What would these cabins sell for on the open market today?  Just doing some browsing on Zillow, for instance, that first property as a 4br cabin with a view would be $1M or above, no?  Possibly upwards of $1.5M compared to some of the comps currently listed (though not sure if those ones are actually selling).

Of course $117k gross looks a lot different on a $525k mortgage at 3% than it does on a $1M-$1.5M mortgage at 7%.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Oklahoma City · Member since 2021 · 108 posts · 103 votes
    3y

    This is great info and you guys are killing it! It is definitely super important now more than ever in popular vacation rental markets to truly differentiate yourself from others. I have a prominent presence in Broken Bow, OK’s market and I’m noticing that so many cabins are offering the EXACT same amenities with very little differentiation. And then the owners wonder why they aren’t renting well.

  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    3y

    What type of dedicated marketing are you doing?

  • Rental Property Investor · Suwanee, GA · Member since 2022 · 48 posts · 38 votes
    3y
    Quote from @John Underwood:

    What type of dedicated marketing are you doing?

    We do alot of what Bill Faeth is preaching. Surprisingly, Facebook B/S/T groups have been the most successful. We also do targeted Facebook ads and have a lot of local Facebook group connections (Atlanta suburbs). The next step is targeted email marketing 
  • Ryan MoyerBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Orlando Kissimmee Davenport Salt Lake City, Park City · Member since 2019 · 993 posts · 1k+ votes
    3y

    Appreciate you sharing actual numbers, that's awesome!

    What would these cabins sell for on the open market today?  Just doing some browsing on Zillow, for instance, that first property as a 4br cabin with a view would be $1M or above, no?  Possibly upwards of $1.5M compared to some of the comps currently listed (though not sure if those ones are actually selling).

    Of course $117k gross looks a lot different on a $525k mortgage at 3% than it does on a $1M-$1.5M mortgage at 7%.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Suwanee, GA · Member since 2022 · 48 posts · 38 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Ryan Moyer:

    Appreciate you sharing actual numbers, that's awesome!

    What would these cabins sell for on the open market today?  Just doing some browsing on Zillow, for instance, that first property as a 4br cabin with a view would be $1M or above, no?  Possibly upwards of $1.5M compared to some of the comps currently listed (though not sure if those ones are actually selling).

    Of course $117k gross looks a lot different on a $525k mortgage at 3% than it does on a $1M-$1.5M mortgage at 7%.

    That one is actually still on the market now for $844k. We had a buyer in the fist week that backed out in the final hour of DD. We are pulling it this weekend to make some improvements and keep it. But, you are correct.  Much harder to make the numbers work, but it’s out there. Look at Vaughn springs above. 
  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Neil Doldo:
    Quote from @John Underwood:

    What type of dedicated marketing are you doing?

    We do alot of what Bill Faeth is preaching. Surprisingly, Facebook B/S/T groups have been the most successful. We also do targeted Facebook ads and have a lot of local Facebook group connections (Atlanta suburbs). The next step is targeted email marketing 

     I had never heard of him. I watched a few of his videos.

    What is B/S/T?

    Local FB groups?

  • Rental Property Investor · Suwanee, GA · Member since 2022 · 48 posts · 38 votes
    3y
    Quote from @John Underwood:
    Quote from @Neil Doldo:
    Quote from @John Underwood:

    What type of dedicated marketing are you doing?

    We do alot of what Bill Faeth is preaching. Surprisingly, Facebook B/S/T groups have been the most successful. We also do targeted Facebook ads and have a lot of local Facebook group connections (Atlanta suburbs). The next step is targeted email marketing 

     I had never heard of him. I watched a few of his videos.

    What is B/S/T?

    Local FB groups?

    Buy/Sell/Trade. They are free to post in. We have joined all over Florida and Alabama and periodically post in them. Check out Build Short Term Wealth Facebook group, that’s Bill’s site. They are taking hosting to another level
  • Doug SmithPro Member
    Lender · Tampa, FL · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    3y

    I just closed three ground-up construction loans in the Jasper area last week backing up to Big Canoe. I love that area. I really think it's going to continue to grow. 

  • Member since 2023 · 14 posts · 8 votes
    3y

    Congrats on your success!we own in Clayton and are having a lot of success. On a personal enjoyment level, I find it much better than BR. It’s more of a locals town, lots more waterfalls, and the downtown has a little more substance to me.
    we bought in Nov 2022 for $365k, and are on pace to gross $55-60k with our first rental.
    https://abnb.me/KOuWo7B1CBb
    I have found in this market, the smaller the place the better occupancy is holding up. Hot tub, Mountain View, and log cabin seems to be the winning formula.
    having stayed on BR a dozen times, I find in Clayton, and just over the border in NC, the clientele doesn’t seem to want or expect some of the premiums just yet (game rooms and such). They seem to skew a bit more outdoorsy and thus from the best I can tell, crave a bit more of an unplugged experience.

    All anecdotal from my own experience and the forums I’m in. We have yet to have a month under 65% occupancy, and July has blown us away at 28/31 days booked!!! 
    it’s been a fun ride for us so far, and transparently it we love using the place monthly.     
    cheers to continues success!!!

  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    3y
    Quote from @Neil Doldo:
    Quote from @John Underwood:
    Quote from @Neil Doldo:
    Quote from @John Underwood:

    What type of dedicated marketing are you doing?

    We do alot of what Bill Faeth is preaching. Surprisingly, Facebook B/S/T groups have been the most successful. We also do targeted Facebook ads and have a lot of local Facebook group connections (Atlanta suburbs). The next step is targeted email marketing 

     I had never heard of him. I watched a few of his videos.

    What is B/S/T?

    Local FB groups?

    Buy/Sell/Trade. They are free to post in. We have joined all over Florida and Alabama and periodically post in them. Check out Build Short Term Wealth Facebook group, that’s Bill’s site. They are taking hosting to another level
    I requested to join it. thanks!
  • Rental Property Investor · Suwanee, GA · Member since 2022 · 48 posts · 38 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Brian Barch:

    Congrats on your success!we own in Clayton and are having a lot of success. On a personal enjoyment level, I find it much better than BR. It’s more of a locals town, lots more waterfalls, and the downtown has a little more substance to me.
    we bought in Nov 2022 for $365k, and are on pace to gross $55-60k with our first rental.
    https://abnb.me/KOuWo7B1CBb
    I have found in this market, the smaller the place the better occupancy is holding up. Hot tub, Mountain View, and log cabin seems to be the winning formula.
    having stayed on BR a dozen times, I find in Clayton, and just over the border in NC, the clientele doesn’t seem to want or expect some of the premiums just yet (game rooms and such). They seem to skew a bit more outdoorsy and thus from the best I can tell, crave a bit more of an unplugged experience.

    All anecdotal from my own experience and the forums I’m in. We have yet to have a month under 65% occupancy, and July has blown us away at 28/31 days booked!!! 
    it’s been a fun ride for us so far, and transparently it we love using the place monthly.     
    cheers to continues success!!!


     Nice! Glad to hear is is going well.  The smaller ones definitely have better occupancy.  WIth our larger ones, we shoot for a little lower occupancy and higher daily rate.  We find it weeds out the party groups and puts less stress on the properties

  • Rental Property Investor · Clayton, GA · Member since 2020 · 186 posts · 152 votes
    3y
    Quote from @Brian Barch:

    Congrats on your success!we own in Clayton and are having a lot of success. On a personal enjoyment level, I find it much better than BR. It’s more of a locals town, lots more waterfalls, and the downtown has a little more substance to me.
    we bought in Nov 2022 for $365k, and are on pace to gross $55-60k with our first rental.
    https://abnb.me/KOuWo7B1CBb



    Lol, going to need you to keep it down about Clayton we like it quiet up here ;) When we decided to leave Atlanta when remote work become more popular we thought about Blue Ridge, but it's become Atlanta north. Clayton is much quieter and slower pace.
  • Madison, MS · Member since 2024 · 10 posts · 9 votes
    1y

    Neil, I found this thread while doing a google search. I'm curious to know what your market analysis would be today? My wife and I are considering a SRT investment in the Blue Ridge area, but we want to be smart about it. I really appreciate you commenting on the bed/bath combo that rents well, as well as the modern, updated amenities that renters are seeking. Curious to know if your thoughts/opinions/observations have changed now that it's 2025.

    • Rental Property Investor · Suwanee, GA · Member since 2022 · 48 posts · 38 votes
      1y
      Quote from @Jonah Gunalda:

      Neil, I found this thread while doing a google search. I'm curious to know what your market analysis would be today? My wife and I are considering a SRT investment in the Blue Ridge area, but we want to be smart about it. I really appreciate you commenting on the bed/bath combo that rents well, as well as the modern, updated amenities that renters are seeking. Curious to know if your thoughts/opinions/observations have changed now that it's 2025.

      Hi Jonah! Blue Ridge is definitely more competitive than when we entered the market. I would say rentals are down a little on some of our properties, but overall we are still operating at the top of the market. There are definitely some properties out there that the numbers make sense, happy to have a more in depth conversation if you’d like more info. 
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