Your biggest financial risk in owning a STR

Your biggest financial risk in owning a STR

Collin HaysBusiness Member
Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes

I am often asked this question:  "What is my biggest financial risk in buying/owning a short-term rental property?"

Lots of things come immediately to mind:  Septic problems, a new roof, HVAC failure, lower-than-projected rents.  And while each of these is a potentially large expense, they pale in comparison to your biggest financial risk: A judgement against you for gross negligence.  

Ensuring that you have, and continuously maintain, a safe property for guests, is barely even an afterthought for most STR investors. Let's just get the property furnished, a hot tub installed, and start making some money!

But ignoring the safety of your guests could cost you everything that you own.  Here is why:  While you will adequately insure your property against various guest perils, your insurance does not cover gross negligence.  And depending on the state, gross negligence damages can include punitive damages for up to four times actual damages.  In other words, if there was a broken leg on your property that resulted in $250,000 in medical, lost wages, and pain & suffering, if there was gross negligence on your part, the total judgement could be $1.25 million, and worse, your insurance company could deny it.

So what constitutes gross negligence?  The legal definition of gross negligence is: "An act marked by total disregard for the rights and/or safety of others, and with complete indifference to the consequences of the act."

In other words, gross negligence refers to an act taken without exercising even the most basic amount of care owed to others. Such an act involves a deliberate disregard for the safety or well-being of another person. Gross negligence does not refer to acts undertaken with intent to harm another, but acts for which the perpetrator knew, or should have known, would result in injury or damages to another person. Such acts may be seen by the courts as bordering on intentional conduct, depending on the level of recklessness involved.

What might be some examples of gross negligence on your property?  Here are a few:

- Loose stair railings that you decided to fix next year instead of now because money is tight.

- The wasp nest that you noticed underneath the front porch and decided to disregard.

- A hot tub that isn't wired correctly because you hired the housekeeper's husband to do it for you for 50 bucks.

- The shiny new barbeque grill that you had the housekeepers place on the wood deck next to the railings.

- That quirky, and warm, light switch that you didn't notice because you haven't been to the property in a year.

- The shower that you noticed is awfully hot but failed to check into it more before you left.

And so on.  Serious injury or death has occurred from each of these items, and they could have been prevented by keeping watch and staying on top of things. Do not believe the lie that you can adequately manage your vacation rental with your iPhone and some far east "customer service agents" to take the occasional phone call. There is a certain amount of "on premises" management that you need to commit to; if you do not, you risk everything you own.  

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Bruce WoodruffPro Member
Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
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Quote from @Collin Hays:

I am often asked this question:  "What is my biggest financial risk in buying/owning a short-term rental property?"

Lots of things come immediately to mind:  Septic problems, a new roof, HVAC failure, lower-than-projected rents.  And while each of these is a potentially large expense, they pale in comparison to your biggest financial risk: A judgement against you for gross negligence.  

Ensuring that you have, and continuously maintain, a safe property for guests, is barely even an afterthought for most STR investors. Let's just get the property furnished, a hot tub installed, and start making some money!

But ignoring the safety of your guests could cost you everything that you own.  Here is why:  While you will adequately insure your property against various guest perils, your insurance does not cover gross negligence.  And depending on the state, gross negligence damages can include punitive damages for up to four times actual damages.  In other words, if there was a broken leg on your property that resulted in $250,000 in medical, lost wages, and pain & suffering, if there was gross negligence on your part, the total judgement could be $1.25 million, and worse, your insurance company could deny it.

So what constitutes gross negligence?  The legal definition of gross negligence is: "An act marked by total disregard for the rights and/or safety of others, and with complete indifference to the consequences of the act."

In other words, gross negligence refers to an act taken without exercising even the most basic amount of care owed to others. Such an act involves a deliberate disregard for the safety or well-being of another person. Gross negligence does not refer to acts undertaken with intent to harm another, but acts for which the perpetrator knew, or should have known, would result in injury or damages to another person. Such acts may be seen by the courts as bordering on intentional conduct, depending on the level of recklessness involved.

What might be some examples of gross negligence on your property?  Here are a few:

- Loose stair railings that you decided to fix next year instead of now because money is tight.

- The wasp nest that you noticed underneath the front porch and decided to disregard.

- A hot tub that isn't wired correctly because you hired the housekeeper's husband to do it for you for 50 bucks.

- The shiny new barbeque grill that you had the housekeepers place on the wood deck next to the railings.

- That quirky, and warm, light switch that you didn't notice because you haven't been to the property in a year.

- The shower that you noticed is awfully hot but failed to check into it more before you left.

And so on.  Serious injury or death has occurred from each of these items, and they could have been prevented by keeping watch and staying on top of things. Do not believe the lie that you can adequately manage your vacation rental with your iPhone and some far east "customer service agents" to take the occasional phone call. There is a certain amount of "on premises" management that you need to commit to; if you do not, you risk everything you own.  

Very well said! And yet I would bet that any property that's not brand new or fairly new, will have some items that could fall into this category. All the more reason to hire a good property manager, or if one insists on self-management, make sure you get to the property at least once a year. It wouldn't hurt to do what some people do and have a home inspector go through the property every couple years..
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  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Collin Hays:

    I am often asked this question:  "What is my biggest financial risk in buying/owning a short-term rental property?"

    Lots of things come immediately to mind:  Septic problems, a new roof, HVAC failure, lower-than-projected rents.  And while each of these is a potentially large expense, they pale in comparison to your biggest financial risk: A judgement against you for gross negligence.  

    Ensuring that you have, and continuously maintain, a safe property for guests, is barely even an afterthought for most STR investors. Let's just get the property furnished, a hot tub installed, and start making some money!

    But ignoring the safety of your guests could cost you everything that you own.  Here is why:  While you will adequately insure your property against various guest perils, your insurance does not cover gross negligence.  And depending on the state, gross negligence damages can include punitive damages for up to four times actual damages.  In other words, if there was a broken leg on your property that resulted in $250,000 in medical, lost wages, and pain & suffering, if there was gross negligence on your part, the total judgement could be $1.25 million, and worse, your insurance company could deny it.

    So what constitutes gross negligence?  The legal definition of gross negligence is: "An act marked by total disregard for the rights and/or safety of others, and with complete indifference to the consequences of the act."

    In other words, gross negligence refers to an act taken without exercising even the most basic amount of care owed to others. Such an act involves a deliberate disregard for the safety or well-being of another person. Gross negligence does not refer to acts undertaken with intent to harm another, but acts for which the perpetrator knew, or should have known, would result in injury or damages to another person. Such acts may be seen by the courts as bordering on intentional conduct, depending on the level of recklessness involved.

    What might be some examples of gross negligence on your property?  Here are a few:

    - Loose stair railings that you decided to fix next year instead of now because money is tight.

    - The wasp nest that you noticed underneath the front porch and decided to disregard.

    - A hot tub that isn't wired correctly because you hired the housekeeper's husband to do it for you for 50 bucks.

    - The shiny new barbeque grill that you had the housekeepers place on the wood deck next to the railings.

    - That quirky, and warm, light switch that you didn't notice because you haven't been to the property in a year.

    - The shower that you noticed is awfully hot but failed to check into it more before you left.

    And so on.  Serious injury or death has occurred from each of these items, and they could have been prevented by keeping watch and staying on top of things. Do not believe the lie that you can adequately manage your vacation rental with your iPhone and some far east "customer service agents" to take the occasional phone call. There is a certain amount of "on premises" management that you need to commit to; if you do not, you risk everything you own.  

    Very well said! And yet I would bet that any property that's not brand new or fairly new, will have some items that could fall into this category. All the more reason to hire a good property manager, or if one insists on self-management, make sure you get to the property at least once a year. It wouldn't hurt to do what some people do and have a home inspector go through the property every couple years..
  • Collin HaysBusiness Member
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    Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

    Good point and I should have mentioned it. Self-managers really need to have a documented inspection of their property from a bona fide inspector, a minimum of once per year, and probably twice.  Even if the inspector misses something, at least the homeowner can demonstrate that they took reasonable efforts to ensure that the property is safe.  That will go a long way in court.

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Collin Hays:
    Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

    Good point and I should have mentioned it. Self-managers really need to have a documented inspection of their property from a bona fide inspector, a minimum of once per year, and probably twice.  Even if the inspector misses something, at least the homeowner can demonstrate that they took reasonable efforts to ensure that the property is safe.  That will go a long way in court.


    You're right, I should have said once a year or more....because one of the main benefits of the inspection is to have a professional on-the-record. It will go a long way towards helping you if you ever go to court. Make sure to use a licensed and/or certified inspector. And get a detailed report on their letter-head. (I used to do these inspections)

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    2y

    Really great topic by the way. Every investor/landlord should be reading this.

  • Property Manager · Miami · Member since 2024 · 21 posts · 8 votes
    2y

    Interesting that you mention the inspection, that's one of the first things we request from any owner who onboards with us. I like the idea of making it yearly.

  • Real Estate Investor · Saint Paul, MN · Member since 2017 · 543 posts · 474 votes
    2y

    @Bruce Woodruff I go to all my properties 4x/year for this very reason. No matter how good your cleaners and handyman are, something may be missed. I can’t believe how crappy some STRs that I have stayed in were, with obvious safety issues.

    The OP is in Sevier County (one of the markets I am in) which recently began requiring inspections and STR licensing. There have been a ton of complaints about having to go thru the process but I see this as long overdue.

  • Investor · Member since 2015 · 222 posts · 173 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:
    Quote from @Collin Hays:
    Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

    Good point and I should have mentioned it. Self-managers really need to have a documented inspection of their property from a bona fide inspector, a minimum of once per year, and probably twice.  Even if the inspector misses something, at least the homeowner can demonstrate that they took reasonable efforts to ensure that the property is safe.  That will go a long way in court.


    You're right, I should have said once a year or more....because one of the main benefits of the inspection is to have a professional on-the-record. It will go a long way towards helping you if you ever go to court. Make sure to use a licensed and/or certified inspector. And get a detailed report on their letter-head. (I used to do these inspections)


    I was just discussing this as I make some improvements to one of my properties.  I will hire an inspector to come through, after the improvements are done.  I always thought that an inspection was only done during the sale of a property.  I agree, inspections should be done, maybe as frequently as once per year.  

  • Collin HaysBusiness Member
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    Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Mark S.:

    The OP is in Sevier County (one of the markets I am in) which recently began requiring inspections and STR licensing. There have been a ton of complaints about having to go thru the process but I see this as long overdue.

    This has turned out to be a farce. Basically another easy cash grab by the county. "Inspections" have been very inconsistent, with the goal posts moving with every inspection. 

    We set up a couple of "test" inspections for them prior to their coming, to see how legitimate the inspections were.  We found that the "inspector" would note the most minute of things, but completely overlook areas that were egregious and outright dangerous.

    It is clear the "inspectors" were thrown together and sent out with no guidelines.  

  • Joe S.Pro Member
    Investor · San Antonio · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Collin Hays:

    I am often asked this question:  "What is my biggest financial risk in buying/owning a short-term rental property?"

    Lots of things come immediately to mind:  Septic problems, a new roof, HVAC failure, lower-than-projected rents.  And while each of these is a potentially large expense, they pale in comparison to your biggest financial risk: A judgement against you for gross negligence.  

    Ensuring that you have, and continuously maintain, a safe property for guests, is barely even an afterthought for most STR investors. Let's just get the property furnished, a hot tub installed, and start making some money!

    But ignoring the safety of your guests could cost you everything that you own.  Here is why:  While you will adequately insure your property against various guest perils, your insurance does not cover gross negligence.  And depending on the state, gross negligence damages can include punitive damages for up to four times actual damages.  In other words, if there was a broken leg on your property that resulted in $250,000 in medical, lost wages, and pain & suffering, if there was gross negligence on your part, the total judgement could be $1.25 million, and worse, your insurance company could deny it.

    So what constitutes gross negligence?  The legal definition of gross negligence is: "An act marked by total disregard for the rights and/or safety of others, and with complete indifference to the consequences of the act."

    In other words, gross negligence refers to an act taken without exercising even the most basic amount of care owed to others. Such an act involves a deliberate disregard for the safety or well-being of another person. Gross negligence does not refer to acts undertaken with intent to harm another, but acts for which the perpetrator knew, or should have known, would result in injury or damages to another person. Such acts may be seen by the courts as bordering on intentional conduct, depending on the level of recklessness involved.

    What might be some examples of gross negligence on your property?  Here are a few:

    - Loose stair railings that you decided to fix next year instead of now because money is tight.

    - The wasp nest that you noticed underneath the front porch and decided to disregard.

    - A hot tub that isn't wired correctly because you hired the housekeeper's husband to do it for you for 50 bucks.

    - The shiny new barbeque grill that you had the housekeepers place on the wood deck next to the railings.

    - That quirky, and warm, light switch that you didn't notice because you haven't been to the property in a year.

    - The shower that you noticed is awfully hot but failed to check into it more before you left.

    And so on.  Serious injury or death has occurred from each of these items, and they could have been prevented by keeping watch and staying on top of things. Do not believe the lie that you can adequately manage your vacation rental with your iPhone and some far east "customer service agents" to take the occasional phone call. There is a certain amount of "on premises" management that you need to commit to; if you do not, you risk everything you own.  

    A wasps nest??? Those little rascals can build nest in a very short period of time… 
  • Collin HaysBusiness Member
    OP
    Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Joe S.:
    A wasps nest??? Those little rascals can build nest in a very short period of time… 

    Indeed. And if someone is allergic to wasp, bee, or yellow jacket stings, they can be deadly.

  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 276 posts · 235 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Collin Hays:
    Quote from @Mark S.:

    The OP is in Sevier County (one of the markets I am in) which recently began requiring inspections and STR licensing. There have been a ton of complaints about having to go thru the process but I see this as long overdue.

    This has turned out to be a farce. Basically another easy cash grab by the county. "Inspections" have been very inconsistent, with the goal posts moving with every inspection. 

    We set up a couple of "test" inspections for them prior to their coming, to see how legitimate the inspections were.  We found that the "inspector" would note the most minute of things, but completely overlook areas that were egregious and outright dangerous.

    It is clear the "inspectors" were thrown together and sent out with no guidelines.  

    I haven't heard a peep about inspecting any of our cabins. Wanna place bets on whether or not I hear before the fee is due again next year?
  • Andrew SteffensBusiness Member
    Tampa, FL · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y

    When I onboard a new client I always ask them about insurance and tell them they need STR compliant policies etc. It is insane to me that most do need my warning. I posted before about a fire we had with fireworks on Jul 4th - client had no insurance at all. Wild.

  • Collin HaysBusiness Member
    OP
    Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Leora Merrell:
    You are obligated to pay the fee; I don't believe they are obligated to inspect. 
  • Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 276 posts · 235 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Collin Hays:
    Quote from @Leora Merrell:
    You are obligated to pay the fee; I don't believe they are obligated to inspect. 
    Agreed. But touting the fee and inspection “for guest safety” but not inspecting and only collecting the fee is terribly dishonest and a sham, as you already mentioned. I never expected anything different though. 
  • Collin HaysBusiness Member
    OP
    Property Manager · Gatlinburg, TN · Member since 2020 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Leora Merrell:
    Sevier County couldn't care less about guest safety.  That's a ruse.
  • Michael BaumPro Member
    Olympia, WA · Member since 2016 · 8k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    2y

    I agree 100%. I go through our property top to bottom 2x a year. Being a very handy person and an engineer, I feel confident that I will catch all issues.

    For example, I just noticed that I have a couple of loose electrical outlets. Just a little wiggly in the box. No big, but I will go through all the outlets in the house next time I am there.

    Seeing as we are on the lake, we have 3 decks, so I am religious about checking the steps, deck boards and railings. I had to replace 2 steps this spring due to some minor rot.

    Plus, if you have good guests, they alert you to issues they see. I replaced a broken railing mount for the interior stairs because a guest noticed it was cracked.

    The bottom line is to setup processes for yourself (or handy person/inspector) to go over your rentals a couple of times a year. 

  • V.G JasonPro Member
    Investor · Member since 2022 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y

    Liability is the #1 risk even in LTR, or any investment that has exposure. Not just STRs.

    That's why if you've been through the trenches of defending yourself you wouldn't just mock the liability angles of protecting your investments beyond umbrella insurance, you'd know how to form entities and keep things separated appropriately. Not just mock it and think it never happens. It happens, you don't hear about it because escalation of it does not let the plaintiff find much juice in the squeeze cause there's proper protection in place. Don't ask me how I know that's beyond the point. Gross negligence is very real. 

  • Stuart UdisPro Member
    Attorney · Philadelphia · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    2y

    Good topic covering the distinction between negligence and gross negligence. Most also fail to understand the exclusions within an insurance policy.  I attribute this to the legal system and more specifically contingent fee representation most plaintiff's rely upon. 

    Even when the fact pattern rises to gross negligence most plaintiff's attorneys will frame their complaint as negligence omitting certain facts to improve the chances of insurance cooperation. This  may not be possible when the fact pattern is so egregious the carrier sees through the tactic. Alternatively when the defendant is a whale where insurance is not the sole avenue to recovery plaintiff's counsel may be less inclined to pull punches when drafting their complaint. Usually in this limited case having the ongoing litigation or even a judgment can lead to disruption in their business (ever fill out a PFS and have to check the box actively involved in litigation?) The same holds true for larger organizations who still rely on financing their business just like us. 

    Nevertheless, most never appreciate the nuances of negligence vs. gross negligence for these reasons but the small fish who get caught up dealing with gross negligence matters get bit hard and are rarely prepared. This is why it's in everyone's  best interest to operate their businesses in a manner that avoids gross negligence conduct. 

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    2y
    Quote from @Collin Hays:
    Quote from @Joe S.:
    A wasps nest??? Those little rascals can build nest in a very short period of time… 

    Indeed. And if someone is allergic to wasp, bee, or yellow jacket stings, they can be deadly.


    ya i cant see how you could possibly protect yourself with bee's wasps  I mean some of the nest are in the ground and very hard to detect..  
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