is there a way to look up how much a specific airbnb makes?

is there a way to look up how much a specific airbnb makes?

Mays Landing, NJ · Member since 2016 · 27 posts · 5 votes

hey guys I'm in the process of trying to purchase my first str. I've been all over airbnb and vrbo and airdna analyzing propertys. but I was wondering if there is another site out there that allows you to look up details on a specific airbnb. like its yearly gross revenue, occupancy rates things like that. anybody know of anything like that?

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Luke CarlPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Tennessee Florida · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 5k+ votes
5y

No and it wouldn’t matter. You would make a totally different number than they do. Enemy Method. Google it. 

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  • Luke CarlPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Tennessee Florida · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    5y

    No and it wouldn’t matter. You would make a totally different number than they do. Enemy Method. Google it. 

  • John UnderwoodPro Member
    Investor · Greer, SC · Member since 2014 · 13k+ posts · 17k+ votes
    5y

    I agree with Luke.

    Best you can do is look at their calendar and rates to get an idea of what their pulling in. 

    Then if they are not self managing shave about 30% off of their gross revenue. 

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco · Member since 2020 · 45 posts · 28 votes
    5y

    Mashvisor shows you how much a specific property makes 

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Dana Boyd:

    Mashvisor shows you how much a specific property makes 

     Are you sure? I just looked up one of my STRs and - although I didn't sign up for an account - everything from pictures to numbers were all wrong and a year behind......?

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco · Member since 2020 · 45 posts · 28 votes
    5y

    This is what Mashvisor shows you. Its historical rental income by month per specific property. I have a paid account so you might need to pay to see this info. It sounds like this is what @Kyle Debiase is looking for...? 

  • Mays Landing, NJ · Member since 2016 · 27 posts · 5 votes
    5y

    @Dana Boyd Yes exactly what I had in mind. Thank you so much.

  • Real Estate Agent · orlando, FL · Member since 2009 · 159 posts · 121 votes
    5y

    Data rabbu is another good site to get projected monthly revenue. 

  • Realtor · Branson, MO · Member since 2018 · 274 posts · 283 votes
    5y

    Revenue data is always a challenge to find unless you find the needle in the haystack where the seller has 10yr trailing full financials with a CPA. I find a lot of sellers who aren't serious investors tend to just 'ballpark' what they make, which can be a bit aggravating for clients that seek in depth info. It's good to know what the market occupancy looks like month to month so you can understand what the low-average-high expectations are there. Then the ADR you can do the same with analyzing comps for low-mid-high assumptions and create a range there too. Then you combine occupancy/ADR to get worst worst case scenario, average scenario, and pie in the sky high scenario. 

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Dana Boyd:

    This is what Mashvisor shows you. Its historical rental income by month per specific property. I have a paid account so you might need to pay to see this info. It sounds like this is what @Kyle Debiase is looking for...? 

    Got it, but does it really capture the exact accurate income? Or just AIRBnB? What about all the other STR sites? And private bookings?

    How close would you estimate it is?

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco · Member since 2020 · 45 posts · 28 votes
    5y

    @Bruce Woodruff Its only AirBNB. So it doesnt take into account VRBO, private bookings, etc. I not sure exactly how close it is to an exact estimate because I'm sure each place is different. Before we made our first purchase, I looked at the data on Mashvisor, AirDNA, actually listings on AirBNB, compared them all, and made my best educated estimate for what I forecasted revenue to be for the property. AirDNA has more data besides just numbers from AirBNB than Mashvisor. 

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Dana Boyd:

    @Bruce Woodruff Its only AirBNB. So it doesnt take into account VRBO, private bookings, etc. I not sure exactly how close it is to an exact estimate because I'm sure each place is different. Before we made our first purchase, I looked at the data on Mashvisor, AirDNA, actually listings on AirBNB, compared them all, and made my best educated estimate for what I forecasted revenue to be for the property. AirDNA has more data besides just numbers from AirBNB than Mashvisor. 

    I wonder if there's a site that takes into account all known listings....? Because to only list AIR stats is misleading...one of my properties only has AIR supplying half the listings.....

    I just researched the actual listings on AIR and VRBO and went with that. Turned out to be plenty accurate. I don't trust algorithms I guess....

  • Bruce WoodruffPro Member
    Contractor/Investor/Consultant · San Diego / Phoenix · Member since 2021 · 12k+ posts · 15k+ votes
    5y

    So @Kyle Debiase it appears the answer to your original question - "is there a way to look up how much a specific airbnb makes?" is NO.

    But you can get pretty close by doing the work yourself.....

  • Ryan MoyerBusiness Member
    Property Manager · Orlando Kissimmee Davenport Salt Lake City, Park City · Member since 2019 · 993 posts · 1k+ votes
    5y
    Originally posted by @Bruce Woodruff:
    Originally posted by @Dana Boyd:

    This is what Mashvisor shows you. Its historical rental income by month per specific property. I have a paid account so you might need to pay to see this info. It sounds like this is what @Kyle Debiase is looking for...? 

    Got it, but does it really capture the exact accurate income? Or just AIRBnB? What about all the other STR sites? And private bookings?

    How close would you estimate it is?

     If someone books on VRBO or on a direct website then their calendar sync will block the dates on AirBNB, and I would then guess MashVisor will see it as a booking.

    If that's the case then if anything it probably does the opposite and over-counts it rather under since it is probably counting owner stays as bookings.

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